Still not much out there for UK users and other oppressed peoples!

[turnsouth]

Filling the hole would kinda work but wouldnt be smooth as the spring would be held out still, you want it to snap flush

Like I said the spring rests against a part of the implement that is separate from the lock part. So even if one was to grind down the locking flat so that it would totally clear the lock lever, you would still have the "snap" against the spring when open.

[turnsouth]

Next time I get a well used model that I can experiment on, I'll have at it with the file and grinder, and post a thread about the results.

 

[AimlessWanderer]

Filling the hole would kinda work but wouldnt be smooth as the spring would be held out still, you want it to snap flush, and the only way to do that is to modify the spring.

If any brave UKers want to send me a tool to mod, I'll do it, I just ask you pay shipping.  I have titanium rod that I could use to re-rivet.

Sorry for confusion, I meant filling the small gap that the locking plate slides into inside, not the larger flat that the spring sits against.

I see what you are saying Al, but on the extremely well used models that I have procured, I've found that as the flat spot has rounded with use, it acts against the lock and actually pushes it to the released position.

Not that I had ever had one that would fully overcome the lock, but I can see how using a file to change that flat spot into a radius should do the trick.

I guess the better way of wording the mod would be to say: "Take a file and round the small flat spot until it overcomes the locking action"

Hmmm ... I can see that on a worn tool BOTH mating parts might be radiused and there's a chance that two radii seated against each other might work ... but they'd also just wear quicker 

[turnsouth]

Not sure about increased wear, after all they rub together every time the tool is opened.

But with our discussion, I'm thinking that perhaps the locking area may need to be ground down so that there is no contact at all with the locking lever. Or at least tapered so there is no contact except at the stop.

[AimlessWanderer]

.... I need to chew this one over a bit 

[turnsouth]

Here is a quick drawing of the reprofiling that I'm thinking of:

[Neil]

I know this defeats the intent of leaving other tools able to lock but you can just remove the little spring from the locking mechanism on a SwissTool and it becomes a slip joint.

"back spring" tension isn't great but I've used a SwissTool blade like this for a good while without accident.

Of course you'll need to disable locking for all other pointed or sharp tools, awl, saw, chisel, scissors.

[Essexman]

i wonder where you stand it its all in your backpack with other tools  ive mainly only got my opinel or tinker in my pocket and my MT is usualy in my backpack, we probably shouldnt worry as ive never been stopped ,

If it's in your bag, my understanding is that wouldn't be a problem, as it's not on your person. But be aware that if you were stopped and chatted to a policeman and said what you've said above about using said tool to cause harm to others you will be nicked!

Again It's all relative. If you are a middle aged man out with family, you are having a picnic in the park, you open the food with a locking knife and a policeman walks by and stops for a chat about said knife, I'm sure nothing would happen.

If you are a teenager standing on a street corner late at night with a gang of other young men flicking your new flipper open - off to jail.

I have to say I think modding a MT is a grey area too. If you have a well know MT that locks but you've modded it to non locking you will have to explain all the details to a policeman and maybe a court. Do you really think they would understand what you have done, or caere less. As far as they may be concerned it's a Leatherman "insert name" that is sold as a locking tool, and you say you've fixed it? You wouldn't be dealing with engineers, they wouldn't have a clue.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I still think on balance it's best to stick with slippies, as the hassels possible just don't make any other course worth it imo

[Zed]

I got my ppp yesterdat from Allan    i thought i could fit my saw as a extra but im going to remove the blade and add the wood saw, so my first bladeless MT, 

[AimlessWanderer]

Good call 

I'm hoping to create my first bladeless slidey plier Gerber (MP400/450 hybrid) soon

[Syph007]

Now I see why a knifeless MT paired with a SAK is a good idea...

Why dont they just come out with a license system then so you can pay a fee, like we do here with guns, and have the permission to buy and use them.  The government can collect lock blade license fees that way and make sure criminals cant legally have them.  Sounds too logical to work I guess.

[AimlessWanderer]

There probably wouldn't be enough locking blade users to warrant the admin/system/policing costs ... thankfully 

[Mercury]

See I think that's a really good idea.  I know if the fees weren't too bad, I would definitely pay them to be able to carry a Locking tool, just because I prefer them.  Well that and the selection is severely reduced if you can't use locking tools. 

[Zed]

well fitted wood saw and now it doeasnt close right up  looks like ill have to grind the wood saw, wish sog would make there parts to fit  it probably wouldnt bother most but im ocd with stuff like this  love the size of this MT though, 

[gadgetman7]

I live in the southern US and always carry a locking folder but I would like a bladeless tool as well. I think the room left from removing the blade could be used for a socket driver or just to slim down the tool. One of the things I'd really like would be a Skeletool with scissors instead of a blade.

I think the market is there but it may be a philosophical issue with some of the manufacturers.


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