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Victorinox Tang Stamps

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Victorinox Tang Stamps
on: February 01, 2014, 09:04:55 PM
Here`s my compilation of victorinox tang stamps used for pocket knives. Some dates are not very clear (ca.) and I`m sure there are some tang stamps I don`t know yet. So it would be cool if you could help me finish the compilation with informations of other tang stamps and exact dates when they were produced.



Moderator Edit - Jul 2022
The latest version of the spreadsheet discussed in this thread can be found here:
https://elsinox.com/Praegestempel/Tang-Stamps-Dating-Tool/

Thanks Ulli and Elsinox
« Last Edit: July 08, 2022, 04:17:25 PM by Huntsman »


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #1 on: February 01, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
Do you have a hi-res version of this?
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #2 on: February 01, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
Ulli, it seems you posed a thumbnail of the tang stamp picture. While it appears to be much more detailed than the ones we have here it's hard to see in this size.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 09:23:56 PM
I have hi res pic, but don`t know how to insert it.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #4 on: February 01, 2014, 09:26:20 PM


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #5 on: February 01, 2014, 09:26:40 PM
I have hi res pic, but don`t know how to insert it.

Click Reply, + Attachments and other options, Choose File (add the picture) and Post.

Or you can email it to me and I'll add it.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #6 on: February 01, 2014, 09:28:10 PM


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #7 on: February 01, 2014, 09:33:17 PM
 :wait:


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #8 on: February 01, 2014, 09:39:50 PM
Thanks, Ulli. :cheers:

If you can attach it later on, that would be great (the small print under the stamps isn't quite visible) but it's already helped with identifying an old pruner knife with the house tang stamp as on, 43-51. :hatsoff:

Odd victoria tang stamp


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 11:09:43 PM
This looks like a very nice compilation.  We definetly need a better picture.   :salute: :salute: :salute:


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 11:34:13 PM
Looks like a lot of good info there. Unfortunately my old eyes can't read half of it. A better shot please.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #11 on: February 02, 2014, 01:39:56 AM
Great compilation  :tu:


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #12 on: February 02, 2014, 08:20:37 AM
A very useful thing. In fact, could have used a bigger picture.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #13 on: February 02, 2014, 08:24:20 AM
 :salute:very detail, very useful. there are so many stamps never seen yet.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #14 on: February 02, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
Thanks that will come in handy.


Swiss Army knives .


CHEERS


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #15 on: February 02, 2014, 09:55:26 AM
Ok that should be bigger...
victorinoxTangStamps - Kopie.jpg
* victorinoxTangStamps - Kopie.jpg (Filesize: 95.47 KB)


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #16 on: February 02, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Yes, that's much better!  And the other part?
BTW are you Dutch?
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #17 on: February 02, 2014, 02:28:30 PM
There`s only one part :-)

No I`m not dutch.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #18 on: February 02, 2014, 02:37:34 PM
Much better. :cheers: Danke.


I've never seen the Victorinox + shield stamp you show as 2013 -


What models have you encountered it on?




Also there are a few newer ones missing. After 2005 there are in fact 3 different tang stamps. Big V with smaller stamp, Big V with bigger stamp and V the same size as all the other letters.





More info here --> http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=46739


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #19 on: February 02, 2014, 04:59:43 PM
Brilliant information! Thanks for posting.  :tu:
"If you put Bacardi in my glass again and try to tell me it's rum, I will burn this bar to the ground!"

-A paraphrase of something I read, to which I related strongly.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #20 on: February 02, 2014, 05:50:55 PM
Oh thanks I see the difference indeed. I`ll change it in my compilation.

The 2013 tang is from the hunter pro.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #21 on: February 02, 2014, 06:52:52 PM
Ok that should be bigger...

 :tu:  Super!  :salute:

You have made a great start on this important topic.   :cheers:


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #22 on: February 02, 2014, 06:56:39 PM
thank you @ulli  :salute: :tu:


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #23 on: February 02, 2014, 07:10:00 PM
I've never seen the Victorinox + shield stamp you show as 2013 -


What models have you encountered it on?

I would say that is the Hunter Pro: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=49716.0

And to ulli: Welcome to the forum and thank you for this handy guide!  :salute:

Edit: Sorry, I somehow missed your answer!


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #24 on: February 02, 2014, 07:50:21 PM
Thank you for the excellent source of information. :)  I think I ask on behalf of everyone if you'd give permission to have the picture mirrored on SAKwiki for others to see.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #25 on: February 03, 2014, 08:44:03 AM
You can use the picture for sakwiki, no problem. But the compilation isn`t finished. There are some more tang stamps I`m sure and some dates are not very clear.


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #26 on: February 03, 2014, 12:24:51 PM
Hi Ulli

Awesome job buddy - How did you do that ??

Thanks so much this will certainly help me.

BTW - What do the reference numbers on top of the stamps mean please?
ie C3, D5, A6 etc

Cheers


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #27 on: February 03, 2014, 01:02:49 PM
The reference-numbers are just one possibility to make a classification. A-Numbers are for tangs with "elsener", B-Number for "victoria"-stamps and so on. Now you can show how the stamps are put together on a specific knife. For example the V1 stamp can appear on the front of the mainblade or on the screwdriver in an angle of 90 degrees. The stamp can be as a single stamp on the knife, but also together with other stamps on the back of the mainblade, as for example with the D1 stamp, but never together with a B2. Hope you understand how it works :-)


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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #28 on: February 14, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
OK - I did not get it at first - But after studying the chart again now I do!

For the identifier on the top (eg A1) - the letter indicates the main feature/word of the stamp.
The number the sequence number for that tang stamp type...
  • A - Elsener
  • B - Victoria
  • C - Victorinox
  • D - Jnoxyd
  • F - Elinox
  • H - Swiss Made with Stainless?? - Not sure on that one - and why is this different to W and what about H1??  :)
  • P - Officier and Crossbow
  • Q - Numbers
  • U - Patents
  • W - Swiss made

For the three lines below the stamp
  • Indicates the year
  • Indicates where the stamp is located: MB = Main blade; CO = Can opener; f = front; b = back - etc
  • Indicates the other stamps (on the chart) with which this stamp appears

Sorry I felt I had to explain this as I was puzzling over it!!
It may help others :)

And an even more brilliant piece of work now I get it!! Thanks again..... :salute:

A small suggestion - If you are still working on this ......
Why not make the identification letter match the stamp eg:
  • Elr - Elsener
  • Va - Victoria
  • Vx - Victorinox
  • J - Jnoxyd
  • Ex - Elinox
  • SM - Swiss Made with Stainless??
  • O CB  - Officier and Crossbow
  • # - Numbers
  • Pat - Patents
  • SM - Swiss made

Or such like - Just an idea - I have something similar where I record the tang stamps in my collection database!!
Although I have about 5% of the ones you have, and only had a vague idea on dates!!



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Re: Victorinox Tang Stamps
Reply #29 on: February 14, 2014, 05:56:35 PM
I`m still working on it. Already made some changes.

Thank you for your suggestion. During the classification, I found some new tang stamps and had to make some changes. Its a hell of work. If you change one tang and give it another number, you have to change multiple other numbers too, so I left it the way I started.

Maybe one day, I`ll change the whole system to make it easier to understand :-)
There are some reference stamps, and some other groups of stamps, they appear only with a specific reference stamp, never alone, like all the patent stamps.



 

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