firearms

[pfrsantos]

I must search the interweb for the blueprints on this. Great DIY weekend project!



 

[pfrsantos]

Or forget the fire...



 

[jerseydevil]

No kidding!
I always want to get one of those and a Whitworth rifle.

I have a .45 caliber hexagonal Whitworth bullet somewhere.    At Gettysburg the Confederates had two Whitworth breech-loading cannon, also with hexagonal bores.



In the contemporary accounts of the cannonade before Pickett's Charge, many Union soldiers recalled the distinctive sound the bolts fired from these guns made as they went by, all over the field.  Impressive considering there were only two guns on Oak Hill, on the Rebel left. 

[ColoSwiss]

Panjandrum - a large rocket propelled vehicle developed (if that's the proper word) by the Brits in WWII to breach seawalls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjandrum

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I always thought they must of been more terrifying to develop to the engineers rather than the opposition!

Sent from the astropathic choir.

[Chako]

My local gun shop has a S&W 500 X-frame revolver for sale.

Me knowing so much about guns...asked the guy behind the counter...is that the gun Dirty Harry carried. He laughed and said no. That there is a 50cal revolver. 

[captain spaulding]

My local gun shop has a S&W 500 X-frame revolver for sale.

Me knowing so much about guns...asked the guy behind the counter...is that the gun Dirty Harry carried. He laughed and said no. That there is a 50cal revolver. 

The S&W .500 has been around for a few years now. I would suggest not buying one as your first gun though.  You would almost certainly develop bad habits dealing with the recoil and it would transfer over to any other gun you shot. Now that I think about it I am just assuming you have no experience. Have you ever fired a gun?   

Dirty Harry had a .44 Magnum in the movie. At the time it was the most powerful handgun in the world. Now a days...... not so much. The .44 Magnum is still a incredible round for revolvers and is absolutely nothing to take lightly.

[jerseydevil]

Dirty Harry had a .44 Magnum in the movie. At the time it was the most powerful handgun in the world. Now a days...... not so much. The .44 Magnum is still a incredible round for revolvers and is absolutely nothing to take lightly.

I read once that John Milius actually couldn't find a Model 29 in .44 Mag for Eastwood to use in the movie, because at the time they were out of production.  In some scenes the revolver being used is actually a .41 Magnum!  Milius is known for knowing his guns, and some interesting ones show up in his films.  In Dirty Harry for example, if you look closely the Scorpio killer's sniper rifle is a Type 2 Arisaka paratrooper's takedown model, a VERY rare piece in it's own right.  The one in the movie has been sporterized, but you can tell what it was from the takedown mechanism.

[captain spaulding]

Very interesting. 

[Chako]

No worries. The previous owner bought it twice, forgetting that he had it before, and after the first shot, it all came back to him, and he re-sold it back to the shop.

[MadPlumbarian]

Here's a pic of the first rifle I ever fired, the Lee Enfield no.8 .22lr


Here's the first rifle I bought (1978) Anschutz 54 .22lr

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Dang an Anschutz. I haven't heard that name in a long time. I was on the rifle team back in high school between 95-97, an Anschutz was the first rifle I ever fired. Ended up getting my own rifle but don't remember what manufacture, but after that it went from .22lr-9mm-3030. JR

[zoidberg]

No worries. The previous owner bought it twice, forgetting that he had it before, and after the first shot, it all came back to him, and he re-sold it back to the shop.

That is pretty darn funny. 

[Chako]

A true case of buyers remorse.

[ColoSwiss]

The biggest gun ever, the German 'Dora' (Gustav) railway gun. 80cm (31") bore and mounted on a dual railroad track. Bigger is not always better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav

[Lynn LeFey]

We finished CCW licensing, and are now just waiting for the paperwork to process, so I've been looking at concealed carry pistols. I have an LC9 but am seriously considering a smaller (and lighter) .380. I shot a Ruger LCP with an extended mag tonight, and with that extended mag, it has a much more secure grip. I think I could go for one.

I also shot the new (ish) Glock 42. I have not much liked the previous Glocks I've shot. I'm not sure if it's the grip thickness (front to back) or grip angle, but they've all felt awkward in my hands. The Glock 42 was NICE, and was an incredibly smooth shooter compared to the jumpy little LCP.

I'm just kind of shocked at the notion of a pistol that weighs the same as a large multitool. Wow.

I also saw a Chiappa .22 revolver that's a reproduction of the 1873 Peacemaker. Slower than death to load and unload spent casings, but it looks like it'd be a complete joy to shoot at the range. Fun little plinker. I guess watching all those westerns as a kid skewed my brain.

EDIT: also, the man they call Jayne's pistol was based on the previously mentioned LeMat. That is one cool pistol.

[captain spaulding]

I would say the new GLOCK 42 is a excellent option for CCW. 

[Chako]

Taking my course on the 17, 18, and 20th. Can't wait.

[JBW1]

I would say the new GLOCK 42 is a excellent option for CCW. 

What do you think of an H&K USP for conceal carry, if he's willing to go full frame instead of a Glock, or even an M&P or Springfield XP

[ducttapetech]

@Lynn, I my not be the best gun expert in the world, but try to avoid the .380 round. They are fun, cheap, and have almost no stopping power. They are better than nothing ofcoarse.

[Lynn LeFey]

The .380 is actually more expensive than the 9mm. I have to assume that it's a matter of how many rounds are produced.

As for 'almost no stopping power'...
Check this article out.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power

I found this article VERY interesting.

[ducttapetech]

Almost no stopping power, I kinda worded that a little wrong. I meant more not the best stopping power.
Yeah, I have read it before and I am going by experience. Not saying you should pack a 1911 Colt, but there are better rounds with more power, better stopping power and they won't break your wrist when shooting them.   
As cheap goes, your are right, depends where you are and the make. I also forgot about the way the price of ammo has gotten all crazy. Even .22s are crazy now.

[Lynn LeFey]

A few years back, I remember balking at match grade ammo being 8 cents per round for .22. Now, you're lucky to find ANY .22 at under 8 cents per round.


If it makes you feel any better, what I have right now is the LC9, and it's hard to justify dropping several hundred dollars to shave 9oz off my carry weight. In addition, as I said earlier, 9mm rounds are cheaper, the sights on the LC9 are better than virtually any .380 (presumably meaning better shot placement).

[ColoSwiss]

I would say the new GLOCK 42 is a excellent option for CCW. 

What do you think of an H&K USP for conceal carry, if he's willing to go full frame instead of a Glock, or even an M&P or Springfield XP

I own an HK USP. Great pistol, accurate and reliable. A little bulky for concealed carry, but light weight. Had an HK USP Compact for a while. Not as accurate, and rather sharp muzzle flip.

[ColoSwiss]

We finished CCW licensing, and are now just waiting for the paperwork to process, so I've been looking at concealed carry pistols. I have an LC9 but am seriously considering a smaller (and lighter) .380. I shot a Ruger LCP with an extended mag tonight, and with that extended mag, it has a much more secure grip. I think I could go for one.

I also shot the new (ish) Glock 42. I have not much liked the previous Glocks I've shot. I'm not sure if it's the grip thickness (front to back) or grip angle, but they've all felt awkward in my hands. The Glock 42 was NICE, and was an incredibly smooth shooter compared to the jumpy little LCP.

I'm just kind of shocked at the notion of a pistol that weighs the same as a large multitool. Wow.

I also saw a Chiappa .22 revolver that's a reproduction of the 1873 Peacemaker. Slower than death to load and unload spent casings, but it looks like it'd be a complete joy to shoot at the range. Fun little plinker. I guess watching all those westerns as a kid skewed my brain.

EDIT: also, the man they call Jayne's pistol was based on the previously mentioned LeMat. That is one cool pistol.

Don't have any experience with the Chiappa revolver, but was looking at their M-9 .22 auto. The general opinion seems to be its unreliable and difficult to field strip for cleaning. If you're looking for a Peacemaker-style .22, you might check out Ruger.

[Smashie]

I'm in a slightly unusual position where as a Brit I have been able to concealed carry (when I am not in the UK).

The .380 is ok, hell the American Arms .22LR are good as a belly gun, but only if you have to get that close!

Normally the sight of hand gun is enough to put mots people off! Slap a laser on it and the red dot is an excellent deterrent as well.

Ok to the point, for CC I would go either Glock or Sig, Glock because they are stupid reliable and Sig because I have the most experience them after the Browning Hi-Power.

Having said that, most people will give up with the red dot is on center mass and they will not know if it is a .380 9mm .40 or .45

sorry a quick edit, the advantage of the 9mm and larger caliber baby Glocks and Sigs is they will accept the higher capacity magazines from their full framed big brothers. So the gun you wear will be reasonably light, but you can carry a couple of  higher capacity magazines in the back pack, handbag or whatever.

[captain spaulding]

I'm in a slightly unusual position where as a Brit I have been able to concealed carry (when I am not in the UK).

The .380 is ok, hell the American Arms .22LR are good as a belly gun, but only if you have to get that close!

Normally the sight of hand gun is enough to put mots people off! Slap a laser on it and the red dot is an excellent deterrent as well.

Ok to the point, for CC I would go either Glock or Sig, Glock because they are stupid reliable and Sig because I have the most experience them after the Browning Hi-Power.

Having said that, most people will give up with the red dot is on center mass and they will not know if it is a .380 9mm .40 or .45

sorry a quick edit, the advantage of the 9mm and larger caliber baby Glocks and Sigs is they will accept the higher capacity magazines from their full framed big brothers. So the gun you wear will be reasonably light, but you can carry a couple of  higher capacity magazines in the back pack, handbag or whatever.

I just have to say. In the USA if you conceal carry you are not allowed to ever pull a firearm for intimidation factor. If you pull it you better be fully intent to shoot and kill.

[Smashie]

I'm in a slightly unusual position where as a Brit I have been able to concealed carry (when I am not in the UK).

The .380 is ok, hell the American Arms .22LR are good as a belly gun, but only if you have to get that close!

Normally the sight of hand gun is enough to put mots people off! Slap a laser on it and the red dot is an excellent deterrent as well.

Ok to the point, for CC I would go either Glock or Sig, Glock because they are stupid reliable and Sig because I have the most experience them after the Browning Hi-Power.

Having said that, most people will give up with the red dot is on center mass and they will not know if it is a .380 9mm .40 or .45

sorry a quick edit, the advantage of the 9mm and larger caliber baby Glocks and Sigs is they will accept the higher capacity magazines from their full framed big brothers. So the gun you wear will be reasonably light, but you can carry a couple of  higher capacity magazines in the back pack, handbag or whatever.

I just have to say. In the USA if you conceal carry you are not allowed to ever pull a firearm for intimidation factor. If you pull it you better be fully intent to shoot and kill.

Quite right, but I have carried for work, not as a private citizen. I will also say that avoiding the situation is always preferable. Where legal I would also carry pepper foam (the spray will get you as well), an ASP or a small taser as well. I'd much rather not have to deal with the 'dibbles' 

[captain spaulding]

I'm in a slightly unusual position where as a Brit I have been able to concealed carry (when I am not in the UK).

The .380 is ok, hell the American Arms .22LR are good as a belly gun, but only if you have to get that close!

Normally the sight of hand gun is enough to put mots people off! Slap a laser on it and the red dot is an excellent deterrent as well.

Ok to the point, for CC I would go either Glock or Sig, Glock because they are stupid reliable and Sig because I have the most experience them after the Browning Hi-Power.

Having said that, most people will give up with the red dot is on center mass and they will not know if it is a .380 9mm .40 or .45

sorry a quick edit, the advantage of the 9mm and larger caliber baby Glocks and Sigs is they will accept the higher capacity magazines from their full framed big brothers. So the gun you wear will be reasonably light, but you can carry a couple of  higher capacity magazines in the back pack, handbag or whatever.

I just have to say. In the USA if you conceal carry you are not allowed to ever pull a firearm for intimidation factor. If you pull it you better be fully intent to shoot and kill.

Quite right, but I have carried for work, not as a private citizen. I will also say that avoiding the situation is always preferable. Where legal I would also carry pepper foam (the spray will get you as well), an ASP or a small taser as well. I'd much rather not have to deal with the 'dibbles' 

Definitely. 

[Chako]

Last night was the first day of the PAL Firearms safety course. It did run from 6:30 to 10. Got another night tonight, and then Thursday night. Once I get this done, I will try to get my restricted, which should be held in December sometime. Once I have that, then I have to write for an application to the RCMP/government to get my PAL. I was told last night that can take up to 3 months (instructor laughed) to a year or so. Looks like my dream of joining a gun club and shooting might be put on hold for quite some time.

[ColoSwiss]

A very interesting book:

http://www.amazon.com/Infantry-Weapons-Combat-Personal-Experiences/dp/1888722150/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416362434&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=u+s+infantry+weapons+in+world+war+II+and+korea