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Bit Kit for CyberTool

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Bit Kit for CyberTool
on: November 28, 2014, 12:05:45 PM
As an avid CyberTool user I'm always on the lookout for a Bit-Kit that complements the CyberTool, ideally they should be able to exchange bits.
This is the best I found so far. Anyone found a bit-kit that is compatible?

So far this kit from Kraftwerk comes closest.
Kraftwerk - Art.Nr. 3179




As you can see, both bits have the small spring loaded ball to stay in place. However, the ball is located at the end for the Bit-Kit and in the center of the bit CyberTool (bottom).



Bits from the Kit work well with the CyberTool and also stay in place thanks to the small ball. Sadly, it doesn't work the other way around. Because of the center location of the small ball in the CyberTool bit its not held in place and falls out.


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #1 on: November 28, 2014, 12:42:01 PM
Great find!  :tu:

Can you list the benefit on tools compared to the original Victorinox bits?

Original bits:
Slotted 3mm, 4mm
Phillips 0, 1, 2
Torx 6, 8, 10, 15
Inbus 1.2mm, 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm, 4mm
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #2 on: November 28, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
This one.


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #3 on: November 28, 2014, 12:53:24 PM
Great find!  :tu:

Can you list the benefit on tools compared to the original Victorinox bits?

Original bits:
Slotted 3mm, 4mm
Phillips 0, 1, 2
Torx 6, 8, 10, 15
Inbus 1.2mm, 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm, 4mm
PZ0 / PZ00
Torx 7&9
Adapter to 1/4" square (see picture 2 bottom center)

Also a screwdriver is superior/faster if you have tons of screws.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #4 on: November 28, 2014, 12:53:53 PM
This one.
Do this bits work with the CT (without adding a magnet)?
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #5 on: November 28, 2014, 12:54:40 PM
Great find!  :tu:

Can you list the benefit on tools compared to the original Victorinox bits?

Original bits:
Slotted 3mm, 4mm
Phillips 0, 1, 2
Torx 6, 8, 10, 15
Inbus 1.2mm, 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm, 4mm
PZ0 / PZ00
Torx 7&9
Adapter to 1/4" square (see picture 2 bottom center)

Also a screwdriver is superior/faster if you have tons of screws.
Also, often you need more than one bit at the same time, so its great to have a second bit-holder.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #6 on: November 28, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
I use the 4mm bits from a generic screwdriver set from Home Depot, cost about $5 for 50+ bits of all types. A small magnet JB-welded into the cybertool holds the ball-less bits perfectly.I made a couple of extensions from the parts left over, one is a 4mm extension, the other is an extension that goes from 4mm to 1/4". Covers all bases. There's a thread or two on the best parts etc.


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #7 on: November 28, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
I use the 4mm bits from a generic screwdriver set from Home Depot, cost about $5 for 50+ bits of all types. A small magnet JB-welded into the cybertool holds the ball-less bits perfectly.I made a couple of extensions from the parts left over, one is a 4mm extension, the other is an extension that goes from 4mm to 1/4". Covers all bases. There's a thread or two on the best parts etc.
Agreed, for a lot of applications a magnet is the solution. However, I get a bit paranoid if I have to replace the CPU fan on Server that has to go back on-line ASAP. I don't like to take chances on these occasions despite the fact I have never had problems with magnetic bit-holders.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #8 on: November 28, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
This one.
Do this bits work with the CT (without adding a magnet)?
No, they are regular 4mm, but I added a magnet anyway. Yours have springed balls, I missed that detail.


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #9 on: November 28, 2014, 04:48:31 PM
This one.
Do this bits work with the CT (without adding a magnet)?
No, they are regular 4mm, but I added a magnet anyway. Yours have springed balls, I missed that detail.
Yes and for most I think that is a good solution... There are just a few occasions where I don't want to risk it.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #10 on: November 28, 2014, 09:10:37 PM
Great find, Beat. :cheers:

How much does the bit kit go for?


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #11 on: November 28, 2014, 10:47:29 PM
Great find, Beat. :cheers:

How much does the bit kit go for?
If you go drinking in Zurich 4 beer, 2 if they are something exotic... I think its about $40.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #12 on: November 28, 2014, 10:48:56 PM
Great find, Beat. :cheers:

How much does the bit kit go for?
If you go drinking in Zurich 4 beer, 2 if they are something exotic... I think its about $40.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #13 on: November 28, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
Can your say that again? :D


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #14 on: November 28, 2014, 11:17:24 PM
Can your say that again? :D
:D

You easily pay $10 for a beer in Zurich ($20 for an exotic might be exaggerated)
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #15 on: November 28, 2014, 11:27:19 PM
Can your say that again? :D
:D

You easily pay $10 for a beer in Zurich ($20 for an exotic might be exaggerated)

Yeah, quite crazy prices really. You should came here for a few :cheers: Even if you travel by plane it might be cheaper than going out for a night on a town in Zürich. >:D Domestic is a bit over $2 and most of the other stuff you can get for under $3. (in bars that is) Any special brews might cost a bit more but nowhere near Swiss prices.


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #16 on: November 28, 2014, 11:34:39 PM
Can your say that again? :D
:D

You easily pay $10 for a beer in Zurich ($20 for an exotic might be exaggerated)

Yeah, quite crazy prices really. You should came here for a few :cheers: Even if you travel by plane it might be cheaper than going out for a night on a town in Zürich. >:D Domestic is a bit over $2 and most of the other stuff you can get for under $3. (in bars that is) Any special brews might cost a bit more but nowhere near Swiss prices.
Its the reason why I drink at home, more comfy and way cheaper...
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #17 on: November 29, 2014, 03:26:16 AM
Finding 6mm hex bits in the states with the little ball retention is impossible.


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #18 on: March 24, 2015, 04:52:41 PM
I use the 4mm bits from a generic screwdriver set from Home Depot, cost about $5 for 50+ bits of all types. A small magnet JB-welded into the cybertool holds the ball-less bits perfectly.I made a couple of extensions from the parts left over, one is a 4mm extension, the other is an extension that goes from 4mm to 1/4". Covers all bases. There's a thread or two on the best parts etc.
Agreed, for a lot of applications a magnet is the solution. However, I get a bit paranoid if I have to replace the CPU fan on Server that has to go back on-line ASAP. I don't like to take chances on these occasions despite the fact I have never had problems with magnetic bit-holders.

I wouldn't worry about losing any bits that are held in just by a small magnet.
I did the magnet-add to my cybertool, and I can pick up the whole CT34 using just the bit in the holder and swing it around. Those magnets are incredibly strong, yet you can get the bits out of the holder OK. Maybe not so if your hands are slippery with oil or grease  :)


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #19 on: March 24, 2015, 05:09:07 PM
I use the 4mm bits from a generic screwdriver set from Home Depot, cost about $5 for 50+ bits of all types. A small magnet JB-welded into the cybertool holds the ball-less bits perfectly.I made a couple of extensions from the parts left over, one is a 4mm extension, the other is an extension that goes from 4mm to 1/4". Covers all bases. There's a thread or two on the best parts etc.
Agreed, for a lot of applications a magnet is the solution. However, I get a bit paranoid if I have to replace the CPU fan on Server that has to go back on-line ASAP. I don't like to take chances on these occasions despite the fact I have never had problems with magnetic bit-holders.

I wouldn't worry about losing any bits that are held in just by a small magnet.
I did the magnet-add to my cybertool, and I can pick up the whole CT34 using just the bit in the holder and swing it around. Those magnets are incredibly strong, yet you can get the bits out of the holder OK. Maybe not so if your hands are slippery with oil or grease  :)

I'm not worried about loosing bits, its sheer paranoia concerning the mixing of magnets and electronics ;)

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[...]I get a bit paranoid if I have to replace the CPU fan on Server that has to go back on-line ASAP. I don't like to take chances on these occasions despite the fact I have never had problems with magnetic bit-holders.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #20 on: March 25, 2015, 02:17:05 AM

I'm not worried about loosing bits, its sheer paranoia concerning the mixing of magnets and electronics ;)

Not a problem. I've used magnetic screwdrivers for over a decade servicing office electronics and computers without issue. NOT having a magnetic screwdriver is a bigger issue. Dropping one screw can make a 1/2 hr job last all day...
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #21 on: March 25, 2015, 10:09:59 AM

I'm not worried about loosing bits, its sheer paranoia concerning the mixing of magnets and electronics ;)

Not a problem. I've used magnetic screwdrivers for over a decade servicing office electronics and computers without issue. NOT having a magnetic screwdriver is a bigger issue. Dropping one screw can make a 1/2 hr job last all day...
99% of the time I agree with you (I also never had problems), but as I mentioned, if I service a server (that is supposed to be online) I get paranoid.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #22 on: March 25, 2015, 03:16:37 PM
But, that is the time when you should NOT be changing your procedure or equipment. You should be doing what you have always done, with the equipment you always use, so mistakes are less likely to happen.
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #23 on: March 26, 2015, 05:05:05 AM
Any recommendations on where to purchase these tiny magnets? 


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #24 on: March 26, 2015, 09:31:35 AM
But, that is the time when you should NOT be changing your procedure or equipment. You should be doing what you have always done, with the equipment you always use, so mistakes are less likely to happen.
Well, I'm a bio-chemist and programmer so I work very infrequently with hardware, and therefore there is no SOP*. Also for clarification, the only tool I really need is a PH1 screwdriver (non-magnetic). Usually, its the power supply that has been fried, but last December I had to replace a CPU fan with T-8 screws. Boy was I glad for the CT.

As for the non-magnetic part. The mysteries of servers are like such that you can have a perfectly working component (e.g. a hard-drive), you move it to another server and it will never boot again**, so you work as delicately as you can.

* Most problematic servers are those standing in a small company cellar, where they have been running for years and no-one has checked if the backup is still running (or if it has run out of disk space years ago ::), seriously I'm not joking that happens).
** The classical "have you tried to turn it off and on again?" is one of the worst advice for servers. Before you re-boot a server (hardware) you better check that the back-up has run properly and be ready with a replacement server. Of course with virtualization that is soon a worry of the past... ALL HAIL TO VIRTUALIZATION!
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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #25 on: March 26, 2015, 12:48:29 PM
Any recommendations on where to purchase these tiny magnets? 


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Amazon USA, and ebay has lots of them. I went for about 20 from a Hong Kong supplier, and they came fast, and for about $1.99 shipped. They are amazingly retentive of the CT bits.


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #26 on: March 26, 2015, 11:12:28 PM

Any recommendations on where to purchase these tiny magnets? 


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Amazon USA, and ebay has lots of them. I went for about 20 from a Hong Kong supplier, and they came fast, and for about $1.99 shipped. They are amazingly retentive of the CT bits.
What keyword search did you use?  I can't seem to locate them.


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #27 on: March 27, 2015, 02:40:00 AM
Something like "neodynium magnet", maybe my spelling is off. Possibly also "rare earth magnet"


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Re: Bit Kit for CyberTool
Reply #28 on: April 17, 2021, 01:12:46 AM
Amazon USA, and ebay has lots of them. I went for about 20 from a Hong Kong supplier, and they came fast, and for about $1.99 shipped. They are amazingly retentive of the CT bits.

What keyword search did you use?  I can't seem to locate them.


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This is the only place I have found it and I am not sure it is the same kit.

https://www.galaxus.ch/en/s4/product/kraftwerk-universal-bit-box-bits-5827762


 

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