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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #300 on: March 02, 2016, 12:33:13 PM
What about the quality of the powerplay? Is it sturdy? Is it possible to compare with the LM wave which share almost the same tool load?
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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #301 on: March 02, 2016, 03:06:32 PM
Man the PowerPlayis thick. Thats a non starter for me right there. And making the phillips driver smaller?
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Reply #302 on: March 02, 2016, 03:13:17 PM

What about the quality of the powerplay? Is it sturdy? Is it possible to compare with the LM wave which share almost the same tool load?

It seems very sturdy to me.

Go back a couple pages to see pictures with the Wave and many others.


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Reply #303 on: March 02, 2016, 03:30:00 PM

Man the PowerPlayis thick. Thats a non starter for me right there. And making the phillips driver smaller?
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Yah, it looks like some of the bits I've bought over the years that are rounded at the tip so they'll fit more screw sizes. This one slips out of screws for me though. I've already bunged it up.


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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #304 on: March 02, 2016, 07:55:58 PM

What about the quality of the powerplay? Is it sturdy? Is it possible to compare with the LM wave which share almost the same tool load?

It seems very sturdy to me.

Go back a couple pages to see pictures with the Wave and many others.

Yeah I've seen. But I don't understand the problem of the bit holder. Is necessary to squeeze strong the handles to spin correctly?
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Reply #305 on: March 02, 2016, 08:06:38 PM
You do have to squeeze the handles together to get the bit to stay tightly in the holder. Some of the videos from SHOT show this well.


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Reply #306 on: March 03, 2016, 12:58:57 AM
Could someone post some comparison shots or direct me to a thread between PowerLock, PowerAssist, and Pocket PowerPlier?


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Reply #307 on: March 03, 2016, 06:26:06 AM
I found some.


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Reply #308 on: March 03, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
Looks like PowerAssist is close to the PowerLock, and the Pocket PowerPlier is smaller.


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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #309 on: March 08, 2016, 06:17:34 PM
OK, at first I was so excited about these two tools, PowerPlay looked really nice.
Now... well. Not so much. Seems that they actually went the wrong way with these...
I really like my PPP and PowerLock and it seems that they are the SOGs I stick with.

Also Tom, earlier you asked that your favorite tool makers would make a MT (Wiha maybe?)...
Please don't ask for that. I love Bahco tools, but the recent Bahco MT is pretty lame.
They also made a step back as their earlier models were better.
You better not ruin your favorites by asking them to do something they are not familiar with.
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Reply #310 on: March 08, 2016, 07:18:14 PM
Hmmm


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Reply #311 on: March 08, 2016, 11:35:19 PM
I officially want a reactor. Need to see it for myself.
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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #312 on: March 09, 2016, 01:25:11 AM
I officially want a reactor. Need to see it for myself.
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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #313 on: March 13, 2016, 06:40:28 PM
So, what's the general opinion on the Powerplay in comparison to the Powerlock?
I have an offer for a Powerlock, and already own one, but I don't know if the PowerPlay's Compound leverage could compete against the Powerlock's.

If so, I'd go for it. Wanna try it out. But the offer on the Powerlock is so darn good. And I need all that gripping power.

Any help here?  ???
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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #314 on: March 13, 2016, 06:55:05 PM
The PowerPlay is smaller and not as robust.


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Reply #315 on: March 14, 2016, 06:30:02 AM
Here are the comparison photos again. You can see that the PowerLock is much heavier built.

















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Reply #316 on: March 14, 2016, 06:32:02 AM
And this shows the gears better





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Reply #317 on: March 14, 2016, 07:22:14 AM
Thanks for sharing rdub. I like their pliers so I may consider them.


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Reply #318 on: March 16, 2016, 03:46:30 AM
Tom Munch, how are the Phillips and file on the powerplay? 


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Reply #319 on: March 16, 2016, 04:09:15 AM
Pretty bad, actually.  The Phillips is small and blunt and slips out of every size screw I've tried.  The file is pretty standard for SOG, and isn't very aggressive on either side.


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Reply #320 on: March 20, 2016, 01:54:58 PM
By the images the powerplay tool components seem rubbish to me...   :facepalm:


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Reply #321 on: March 21, 2016, 08:12:33 AM
So, here's my problem guys. Hope you'll help me out...
I EDC a big MT and med size tool on the belt. I used to carry the Powerlock/Blacktip but it was too heavy and long for belt carry, so it now goes in the bag.



I, for my particular needs and tasks, need a Comp. Lev. tool for my belt carry (carried the Juice, which I hope a member of this board ^^^^ is already enjoying  :cheers:, but it wasn't what I needed), and I thought the PPP would serve me well.



It has, and it's light and so, but it lacks locks (indispensable to me) and the toolset is almost the same as the Powerlock/Blacktip, so I lose a lot of versatility with the package.



I ask now: is the Powerplay the new PPP I am looking for? (C.Leverage and a strong bite, locking tools, smaller and lighter than the big SOGs...)
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Reply #322 on: March 21, 2016, 01:06:02 PM
That's a tough question. It fits your criteria, but it's a different animal than the PPP - not as light  or compact. The tools are different too and not swappable.


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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #323 on: March 21, 2016, 04:10:39 PM
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Do those washers eliminate the tool clumping? They really increase the width, I'd much rather have a slimmer handle with tools that clump. :-\
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Re: SOG 2016 Product Info!!!!
Reply #324 on: March 21, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
Leatherman:
Charge TTi, AL, Squirt PS4, Surge, Juice XE6, CS4, S2, ST300, Crunch, OHT, MUT, Rebar, Brewzer, Signal, Raptor, Tool Adapter, Croc, Wave, Style CS, Freestyle, Skeletool RX, Micra, Wingman
SOG:
PPP, PowerLock, SwitchPlier 2.0, Paratool, PowerAssist, Reactor, CrossCut, PowerPlay
Gerber:
FliK, MP600 ProScout, MP600 blunt, Dime, MP-1, Diesel, MP400
Bahco:
MTT151, MTT051, MTT121
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Reply #325 on: March 21, 2016, 04:57:52 PM
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Do those washers eliminate the tool clumping? They really increase the width, I'd much rather have a slimmer handle with tools that clump. :-\

They don't totally eliminate the clumping, but they help.


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Reply #326 on: March 23, 2016, 04:29:17 AM

Thanks for putting this up.  :tu:

After watching the video and reading the comments I still want one  :facepalm: honestly I've found that for me personally I won't know whether I like a tool or not until I get it in hand and use it for a while. I think people forget that multitools are compromises. They will never be better than dedicated tools, but using a reactor as a screwdriver will be better than using your car keys. So I still will be getting a reactor. Sad to see so many people write it off of being "leatherman only" guys based one video.  :crash:

ps I do want to mention that I like the Lateboy Scout. Some of his reviews I don't fully agree with, but he's still helpful in the way he does reviews.
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Reply #327 on: March 23, 2016, 04:52:44 AM
I really like the Reactor. The only thing that keeps me from carrying it everyday is that some days I wear pants that have threads in the pocket seam that get caught too easily on the gears in the plier hinge as I slide the Reactor into my pocket. I wish they would have put gear covers on them like the larger tools.


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Reply #328 on: March 26, 2016, 12:48:49 AM
Got to fiddle with the reactor today at REI. It's much smaller and lighter than I anticipated. I'm not sure it's worth the $55 tag they wanted. Not sure I would pay more than $30 for one. It seems like a decent tool. I still want one if the right deal presents itself or if I got it as a gift.
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Reply #329 on: March 27, 2016, 04:30:53 AM
Finally got my Reactor! On my way home from Texas, stayed the night in Colorado Springs where there "just happened" to be an REI nearby ;) ;)



I like it so far. It's no Skeletool, but that suits me just fine because I don't really like the Skeletool. Its super compact and light and has a great pocket clip.

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