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sak id & dating
on: April 01, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
sorry, kinda new around here & i'm sure this question is always coming up, but i can't seem to find the answer i'm looking for with the search engine...

wondering if there is already a thread that discusses all the indicators for dating...
i've seen the very helpful thread on the tang stamps, but what about the manufacturing changes, ie scissor screw, awl hole, corkscrew groove, etc., & specifically shield stamp?

if it's here & i can't find it, please just show me the way...

would be super if there is a thread or site with all the info... tia!!!

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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #1 on: April 01, 2016, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: sparky42 on April 01, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
sorry, kinda new around here & i'm sure this question is always coming up, but i can't seem to find the answer i'm looking for with the search engine...

wondering if there is already a thread that discusses all the indicators for dating...
i've seen the very helpful thread on the tang stamps, but what about the manufacturing changes, ie scissor screw, awl hole, corkscrew groove, etc., & specifically shield stamp?

if it's here & i can't find it, please just show me the way...

would be super if there is a thread or site with all the info... tia!!!
Dating SAKs is generally frowned upon in the greater collectors community, and as such no such resource for helping with dating exsists. SAKs, are considered "second class humanoids" and as such are best suited for fondling and abusing as us collectors see fit. Many so called "SAK abuse abolitionists" are against this so called "poor treatment" of Swiss Army Knives, but what those people fail to understand is that SAKs, while capable of rudimentary speech, are simply too stupid to make good decisions regarding their own governance. What we collectors are doing is creating a society that looks out for the best interest for the greater community, and putting SAKs to use in a way that helps all citizens.

Having relations with a SAK is not just inappropriate, but unnatural. Should any SAK be caught "dating" a human, that SAK will almost certainly be lynched by the community.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 06:19:21 PM by sLaughterMed »
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #2 on: April 01, 2016, 06:21:07 PM
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #3 on: April 01, 2016, 06:33:48 PM
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #4 on: April 01, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
Quote from: sLaughterMed on April 01, 2016, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: sparky42 on April 01, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
sorry, kinda new around here & i'm sure this question is always coming up, but i can't seem to find the answer i'm looking for with the search engine...

wondering if there is already a thread that discusses all the indicators for dating...
i've seen the very helpful thread on the tang stamps, but what about the manufacturing changes, ie scissor screw, awl hole, corkscrew groove, etc., & specifically shield stamp?

if it's here & i can't find it, please just show me the way...

would be super if there is a thread or site with all the info... tia!!!
Dating SAKs is generally frowned upon in the greater collectors community, and as such no such resource for helping with dating exsists. SAKs, are considered "second class humanoids" and as such are best suited for fondling and abusing as us collectors see fit. Many so called "SAK abuse abolitionists" are against this so called "poor treatment" of Swiss Army Knives, but what those people fail to understand is that SAKs, while capable of rudimentary speech, are simply too stupid to make good decisions regarding their own governance. What we collectors are doing is creating a society that looks out for the best interest for the greater community, and putting SAKs to use in a way that helps all citizens.

Having relations with a SAK is not just inappropriate, but unnatural. Should any SAK be caught "dating" a human, that SAK will almost certainly be lynched by the community.
Except in California, but it is known to cause cancer in the state of California.

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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #5 on: April 01, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
:D Everything causes cancer in California......
There's no such thing as "Too pretty to carry".  There's only "Too pretty NOT to carry"...... >:D
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #6 on: April 01, 2016, 09:25:44 PM
That is why I don't live in California   ;)


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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #7 on: April 01, 2016, 09:33:22 PM
As stated... ignore Slaughtermed... his heart was once broken by a beautiful Tourist and now he projects his sakophobia outwards...
Free love for everybody. Saks are people too.
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #8 on: April 01, 2016, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: jerseydevil on April 01, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
:D Everything causes cancer in California......

Sure does and they legally have to warn you about it. Seriously.

I was just at the McDonalds drive through and while I have read this sign a thousand times, but I was reading it again. This is the sign.


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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #9 on: April 02, 2016, 12:23:57 AM
Quote from: Corwyn on April 01, 2016, 06:21:07 PM
Ignore the muppet above.
http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php

ok great thanks corwyn, the saam's is a great help, very nice!

now, what about the shield stamp, when did that change?

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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #10 on: April 02, 2016, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: captain spaulding on April 01, 2016, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: jerseydevil on April 01, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
:D Everything causes cancer in California......

Sure does and they legally have to warn you about it. Seriously.

I was just at the McDonalds drive through and while I have read this sign a thousand times, but I was reading it again. This is the sign.


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Get outta here!!! Is this April fools, or real???
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #11 on: April 02, 2016, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: kari_sak on April 02, 2016, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: captain spaulding on April 01, 2016, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: jerseydevil on April 01, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
:D Everything causes cancer in California......

Sure does and they legally have to warn you about it. Seriously.

I was just at the McDonalds drive through and while I have read this sign a thousand times, but I was reading it again. This is the sign.


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Get outta here!!! Is this April fools, or real???
Not sure, but I wouldn't be suprised if it was not a joke. California is pretty famously obsessed with finding and labeling carcinogens.
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #12 on: April 02, 2016, 03:03:01 PM


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Reply #13 on: April 02, 2016, 03:47:50 PM
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The "other nuts" part actually makes sense. Its not intuitive to think that a package of only peanuts might contain traces of seseme seed.

Warnings about peanuts in packages of peanuts makes me :facepalm:
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #14 on: April 02, 2016, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: kari_sak on April 02, 2016, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: captain spaulding on April 01, 2016, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: jerseydevil on April 01, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
:D Everything causes cancer in California......

Sure does and they legally have to warn you about it. Seriously.

I was just at the McDonalds drive through and while I have read this sign a thousand times, but I was reading it again. This is the sign.


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Get outta here!!! Is this April fools, or real???

No it is real, I've not seen a sign like that in person but I have heard of them. 

California is a big market so some of their laws affect the rest of the US
https://oag.ca.gov/prop65/faqs-view-all


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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #15 on: April 02, 2016, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: kari_sak on April 02, 2016, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: captain spaulding on April 01, 2016, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: jerseydevil on April 01, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
:D Everything causes cancer in California......

Sure does and they legally have to warn you about it. Seriously.

I was just at the McDonalds drive through and while I have read this sign a thousand times, but I was reading it again. This is the sign.


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Get outta here!!! Is this April fools, or real???

It's real.  Those signs are pretty common that I don't think most Californians look twice at them. 
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Reply #16 on: April 02, 2016, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: sparky42 on April 02, 2016, 12:23:57 AM
Quote from: Corwyn on April 01, 2016, 06:21:07 PM
Ignore the muppet above.
http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php

ok great thanks corwyn, the saam's is a great help, very nice!

now, what about the shield stamp, when did that change?

It's hard to find the right threads on the phone. For starters, you can use the attached photo...
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Reply #17 on: April 02, 2016, 08:57:27 PM
Ow you said shield stamp on the scale, not tang stsmp... I don't think it ever changed, the first soldiers didn't have one, than the soldiers used a cross, then the cross on a semicircle then the current one.
The first officers didn't use one, then they went straight to the current one. During the 60s and up to the 80s the Ecoline rpunded shield was also used... that's from the top of my head, really tired, in bed, baby in arms and too many beers in stomach (mine not the baby's ;-) )...
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #18 on: April 02, 2016, 09:29:24 PM
Ulli for president!
His chart of tang stamps was what made me join MT.o!
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #19 on: April 03, 2016, 12:52:00 AM
You can also try this table ....

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,51872.msg1214377/topicseen.html#msg1214377

Make sure you get the latest version (Ver VI) - Bottom of the first page.
This was originally made up from information in the SAAMS blog mentioned above - But quite a bit more information has been added.

The shield changed from nickel sliver to stainless in 1980 - This is in the table.
There is also the Elinox/economy shield which I think was around in the 70s and 80s, at the same time as the regular shield - This is the more rounded shield, and is not used any more.

PS. I have a later version of the table - and will post it in the thread sometime!! It is continually evolving as information emerges!
« Last Edit: April 03, 2016, 12:55:50 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: sak id & dating
Reply #20 on: April 03, 2016, 02:41:54 PM
ok great, thanks corwyn & huntsman, great stuff!!!
i also found this which shows an evolution of shield stamps etc.
http://www.sakhome.com/304372180
http://www.sakhome.com/304372180

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