Been doing some work in the Wiki

[kamakiri]

Sounds like a good job for our intern then

But no, it would probably also mean that external links and search engine results would point to the wrong (old) page URLs.

Won't that fix itself over time?  I just googled Victorinox Picnicker and the 91mm page didn't even show up. The 111mm page did.

Oh, and I think that might be spelled incorrectly for the 111mm.  I think that one has two 'k's? PicKnicker

[Reinier]

Won't that fix itself over time?

On SERPs, yes, probably. But links on Facebook, MTo, blogs and other websites will point to non-existing pages. Unless Tiki parses the old URL and serves the new page with a 301 HTTP header.

[Huntsman]

Yes some of the page names are not ideal - Especially ones like that with an underscore (there are a few)
However as enki said - I think we should not change them.

On the internet usage / Google search issue this could give my thoughts are:
 
SAKWiki is very well established in the SAK user community - eg look at eBay or Facebook etc
And many people wanting to find about about SAKs will already know of its existence
So people will find their way through the menus

When people google search - from scratch - as you found out KK - SAKWiki will often come up with something or other and they can then go from there
And often they won't know the model name anyway - So will be going through the menus looking at layers/tools etc to find a name.   

[kamakiri]

Couldn't the old page just be edited down to a link that says, "This page has been moved/updated to (link)"?

[Nick4]

Naming convention for any and all new pages should be Victorinox "MODEL NAME" so the pages are better indexed by search engines and we get better hits if searched by google and such.

And for Wenger models pages too?

[enki_ck]

And for Wenger models pages too?

And for Delemont as well

But I do hope we created most of the missing Wenher pages by now.

[Nick4]

A page for the Sterling series still required. 

Fixed.

[Huntsman]

Hi Knights, SAK Fans and the World,   

Well it’s time for our second update, but before we start we have had a few new pages added even in the last week:

• Victorinox Russia Series
  
• Victorinox Ukraine Series
  
• Victorinox Grand Prix Small
  
• More Wenger Series
  

All from our new(ish) editors Nick4, Ivo and Mechanickal ....... Thanks very much lads


So, this summary post is for the:


Existing Pages with Updates
You would think that the Wiki existing pages are fairly static eh?  ........  Not so at all    

The Wiki pages are constantly being updated
Many of the changes are pretty minor - Fixing: Grammar; Spelling; Missing Links; Missing Images; Formatting; Wording etc etc
– Most of which is pretty boring, but improves the overall accuracy and usability of the Wiki.

So, what we have included below are just the pages that have had major or significant updates and ones where SAK friends from all over the world have helped us:

Page		Updates
Golf Tool		Reformatted
SportRatchet		Reformatted
Yeoman Mechanic		New image for the Heuliez version – Thanks Mechanickal
Wenger Series		Lots of series pages added – Thanks Nick4
Chinese Zodiac		Latest models added – Thanks Ivo
Craftsman/Phillips backspring models		We have had some interesting debates, mainly led by Kamakiri on these models ( Craftsman, Artisan, Grand Prix etc) regarding their naming. These discussions have not fully run their course yet. However, some of the pages have been updated
Ueli Steck Models		Various edits
Wenger Standard Issue		Major reformat of the page – Inline with the major revisions of the various Victorinox Soldier pages made a couple of years ago. Updates to Wenger 1890 and 1951 pages to follow
Skipper		More of PitirM's fantastic nautical in situ images added
Alinghi Models		Bit more info on the history of these models. Crew Alinghi model page to be added to Wiki (in plan)
Cheese Knife		This page was totally trashed - possibly by a software upgrade. It has been completely reformatted, new sections added, and most recently the Version 2 model added - Note: There’s still a few more pictures and text to add on V2 (in plan)
Delémont Updates		Updates to existing Wenger and Delémont pages due to new Delémonts being added – Thanks Max Stone
Zodiac Series		Nicer formatting of the page
VSAKCS		This page had several missing images and jaya_man and LeaF have found all of the missing images for us. We added the 2018 image from a Facebook colleague. (2019 model will be added shortly). We have also hooked up with the VSAKCS people and added a little information from them (eg contact details) and also some fascinating info about a cock-up on the 2004 Soldier model!!
Victorinox Battle Series		OK – I have saved the best till last!  These are probably my favourite models Victorinox made. All the pages were in a very bad state, with poor formatting and pictures missing. Our wonderful MT.o member Chako has supplied all the missing pictures for the model pages (thankfully I got them before Photofbucket trashed his account). And we have also used his fabulous pictures on a completely remodeled family page. This is the link on the left. I know that everyone is not always happy with the work I do – So I have left the St. Jakob page as it was so you can see the improvements - and hopefully agree that these changes are good.
Victorinox Damascus Series		Another fantastic series from Victorinox. Nick4 has done a fabulous job designing and adding images to this page, we have also added an amazing Damascus family image from a Facebook colleague from Chile - KiMany Fuentes
Wenger United Woods Series		We must not forget Wenger either. These are my favourite Wenger models. This page was also totally trashed. I think it might have been work in progress that was never finished. Anyway it looks great now.

Maybe visiting all these pages is not necessary but I would urge you all to visit the last three pages, via the hotlinks in the table above - as they really are great      

Note: There has been so much going on that I am sure I have forgotten some of the pages that have had big updates - And apologies to those editors if I have not included your pages

However a massive thanks to all the editors who have contributed to these and all the other updated pages

PS. You can always check on the latest Wiki updates from the Wiki main page top left hand menu box via this path:
Menu > Wiki > List Pages
https://sakwiki.com/tiki-listpages.php?find=&findfilter_orphan=&maxRecords=100&offset=0
And you can always check updates to individual pages via the History button - All our editors note the changes that they made here.

[Mechanickal]

Thanks for the shout out!

[Nick4]

Thanks for the shout out!

Thank you very much, Sir Huntsman!   

[Ivo]

Thanks Huntsman, glad that I could help 

[Huntsman]

VSAKCS

This page had several missing images and jaya_man and  LeaF have found all of the missing images for us. ......... . (2019 model will be added shortly).

Yay sorted - Thanks mate

[NeleDo]

Great work everyone! I'm waiting for official reference numbers for 2020 Classic LEs to update the chart (with collection names too).

Also, if anyone's interested, I can provide info for missing Victorinox Lumberjack Big page. I can upload a photo too (yes, I own a knife) but my knife has a bit worn shield. I've seen someone in the forum having BNIB one, just can't remember who. 

[Whoey]

Just a heads up, routine security update of the tikiwiki software seems to have gone sideways yesterday.

Looks like there's some heavy corruption in the database, and it has been both problematic to upgrade or roll back.

I am working on it, but have other IRL commitments interfering in between.

[Serena]

Just a heads up, routine security update of the tikiwiki software seems to have gone sideways yesterday.

Looks like there's some heavy corruption in the database, and it has been both problematic to upgrade or roll back.

I am working on it, but have other IRL commitments interfering in between.

Ah, got it.
Tried to look something up yesterday, but the site is unreachable. Too bad!

[Whoey]

I'm afraid it may have reached the point we've been dreading.

I haven't been able to properly roll back, or restore the DB without it barfing, and even trying to upgrade to latest is not happy, it overloads the server.

going to try locally with some extra grunt to see if it will behave.

Regardless, I think it's closing in on that time where we need to replace it.

[Whoey]

I think it's successfully rolled back.

Please check and let me know.

[Huntsman]

Thanks Whoey

Really appreciate all your work looking after the Wiki

I usually keep an eye on the latest updates and I checked the last update I made which was on 23rd  Dec and it is there
I did not see any other updates over the last few days.
So looks like it rolled back OK.

The idea of a migration totallly frealks me out
Would we have to change all the formatting logic / commands?

Thanks again

[Mechanickal]

Thanks!

And I'll better check here before pm-ing you next time

[CraftsmanSAK]

If we find a model not listed and would like to add it to the SAKWiki, do we drop you a line or....?
(recently just posted a model 56383 Climber in the Climber club forum I was hoping to add and I may have a few other models in my collection to add to the wiki)

[Huntsman]

Thanks CSAK

Posting here is fine - One of the editors will pick it up
(We won't usually pick up comments in other threads)
Or you could request to become and editor yourself - by PMing enki_ch

I think what you found is not a new model - It is a regular black scaled Climber ..... Or am I missing something ?
However that particular US model number is missing from the wiki - So I added it  - with what I hope is an appropriate comment

Please check it out

Thanks

PS. There is an update coming on the model numbering/Identifiers section in the next week or so!

[CraftsmanSAK]

Awesome... thanks for the quick response.  There wasn't anything special about the model, just hoping to add to the wiki.  Your comment on the part number being due to packaging may be spot on.  It was a clamshell instead of boxed, so that might be useful to know on a couple others I have that are the same. 

[NeleDo]

I've just noticed a funny thing in the SAKWiki... In 91mm list asterix(*) marks contemporary models, while in 111mm list it marks discontinued/withdrawn ones.

[Huntsman]

True !!!
Has that confused you    . 
 - The text on each page is clear about the asterix
The reason for the difference is that the asterisks are fewer that way in both lists!
Ie the * marks the smallest group on each page

[NeleDo]

True !!!
Has that confused you    . 
 - The text on each page is clear about the asterix
The reason for the difference is that the asterisks are fewer that way in both lists!
Ie the * marks the smallest group on each page

It hasn't confused me, it's just my OCDEFGH... 

[m47mu74nt]

Hi everyone!
Is it possible to push a disc ISO on the wiki?
I do have dd the "Ueli Steck" DVD into an iso file (about 1.5GB)
It may be interesting for the archives?

[Nick4]

Is it possible to push a disc ISO on the wiki?
I do have dd the "Ueli Steck" DVD into an iso file (about 1.5GB)
It may be interesting for the archives?

Of course, that would be interesting. But what about the copyright?

[m47mu74nt]

Of course, that would be interesting. But what about the copyright?

You are damn right..
I'll keep it on my own private archives as I already own the physical medium.
I don't wanna need to fight with copyright claims 

[Nick4]

I don't wanna need to fight with copyright claims 

Suppose, nobody wanna need.

[NeleDo]

I'll just leave this here so one of the editors could use and make a page. Attached photo is mine and you can use it in SAKWiki (the shield on my knife knife is slightly worn, I think I've seen a photo of a BNIB one with the box on the forum, just can't remember where and who posted it). Enjoy! 
Lumberjack Big
The Lumberjack Big is 2 layer Victorinox model that includes the large blade, combo tool and woodsaw. It is enlarged version of 84mm Lumberjack with added corkscrew at the back. This model was not produced in large numbers and is fairly rare.
Discontinued and relatively rare.
Layer Tools
•   Large Knife Blade
•   Combo Tool - Can-opener/bottle-opener/Screwdriver/Wire stripper
•   Wood saw
Back Layer Tools
•   Corkscrew
•   Keyring/Split-ring attachment point
Scale Tools
•   None
Scales
Cellidor Economy, no toothpick or tweezers, with hot stamped silver Swiss shield logo
Variations
In 2007 SwissBianco made 20pcs of Lumberjack Big with plus scales and phillips instead of corkscrew.
History
Lumberjack Big is a collectors name for this model as it's unknown if an official name was ever given to it. This model was produced only in 1986 as 3.3311
Physical Specifications
•   Length: 91mm
•   Width: 15mm
•   Weight: 64.5g
Identifiers
•   3.3311 Red Cellidor with no toothpick or tweezers, hot-stamped 'Economy' shield.
Related Knives
•   Compact – Scissors instead of woodsaw, with Plus scales, which include the pin; adds the multipurpose hook
•   Camper - Similar features, one layer thicker. Combo tool is replaced by small blade, and separate openers; adds reamer.