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Re: What's your latest flashlight?
Reply #2970 on: October 04, 2022, 07:16:58 AM
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Reply #2971 on: October 04, 2022, 07:30:30 AM
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Reply #2972 on: October 04, 2022, 06:01:36 PM
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Re: What's your latest flashlight?
Reply #2973 on: October 05, 2022, 12:56:57 AM
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Reply #2974 on: October 05, 2022, 01:08:40 AM
Thanks! it's growing on me already
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Re: What's your latest flashlight?
Reply #2975 on: October 14, 2022, 02:38:58 AM
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Re: What's your latest flashlight?
Reply #2976 on: October 20, 2022, 04:25:04 PM


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Re: What's your latest flashlight?
Reply #2977 on: October 20, 2022, 07:03:05 PM
Been on a flashlight hiatus for a while, but after loosing a couple of headlamps, it was time to do something about it.
Was planning to get Zebralight(s), but availability has been spotty, and the price.. yeah, well. I try to avoid Chinese to a reasonable degree, but this time it didn’t feel reasonable.
If someone has a feeling @MaxLvlEdc could be responsible for putting some weight on the scale here, I can’t really argue against that claim. 


The HS10 has replaced my MIA Olight Nova as general outdoor light. This is by far the category thats sees most use. 1 - 3 hours a day typically.

The HS05 has replaced my MIA Petzl (something) as my work light for home use. I could probably get by using the HS10 for this, but it simplifies logistics to have booth. And the profile fits better with how I prefer to carry my work light.

The Wrukkos I didn’t primarily buy for its merits as a light, but rather to use it as a power bank with a useful trick up its sleeve.
It has replaced my old power bank that typically rides in my EDC backpack, but also comes along for travel and backpacking trips. It’s slimmer, lighter, more rugged, has more carry options  and I can easily replace the battery if it shows signs of  loosing its ghost. To boot, it can serve as a very decent backup light and headlamp.
It has already proven its usefulness as a backup light. One evening I was doing electrical work at my mothers house, my primary backpack work light (Lumintop EDC05C) ran out of juice long before I was ready to flip the breakers back on. It was very convenient to have such a potent light source easy at hand in that situation.


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Reply #2978 on: October 20, 2022, 07:22:34 PM
Been on a flashlight hiatus for a while, but after loosing a couple of headlamps, it was time to do something about it.
Was planning to get Zebralight(s), but availability has been spotty, and the price.. yeah, well. I try to avoid Chinese to a reasonable degree, but this time it didn’t feel reasonable.
If someone has a feeling @MaxLvlEdc could be responsible for putting some weight on the scale here, I can’t really argue against that claim. 
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The HS10 has replaced my MIA Olight Nova as general outdoor light. This is by far the category thats sees most use. 1 - 3 hours a day typically.

The HS05 has replaced my MIA Petzl (something) as my work light for home use. I could probably get by using the HS10 for this, but it simplifies logistics to have booth. And the profile fits better with how I prefer to carry my work light.

The Wrukkos I didn’t primarily buy for its merits as a light, but rather to use it as a power bank with a useful trick up its sleeve.
It has replaced my old power bank that typically rides in my EDC backpack, but also comes along for travel and backpacking trips. It’s slimmer, lighter, more rugged, has more carry options  and I can easily replace the battery if it shows signs of  loosing its ghost. To boot, it can serve as a very decent backup light and headlamp.
It has already proven its usefulness as a backup light. One evening I was doing electrical work at my mothers house, my primary backpack work light (Lumintop EDC05C) ran out of juice long before I was ready to flip the breakers back on. It was very convenient to have such a potent light source easy at hand in that situation.

Will be very interested in how you get on with it's performance as a powerbank, I can't imagine a light would be any good at that kind of thing but it will be interesting to see the results!
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Re: What's your latest flashlight?
Reply #2979 on: October 24, 2022, 09:51:24 AM
Will be very interested in how you get on with it's performance as a powerbank, I can't imagine a light would be any good at that kind of thing but it will be interesting to see the results!

I'll try to remember that.
I should say I don't use powerbanks a lot. I don't use my phone for power hungry tasks and I have steady access to chargers throughout the day, most of the time. It's mainly an emergency device/feature, and usually if I have to take out my powerbank, it's for somebody else's emergency.

Now, besides being limited by the capacity of a single 21700 Li-Ion cell, I'm not sure exactly why I shouldn't expect a light to perform well as a powerbank.
The fact that it's a high output light, means they can't cheap out on some of the components that one might be tempted to save some money on in a dedicated powerbank. Now, this equation is obviously not just in favor of the flashlight. The fact that they have a more constrained weight, size and form factor canvas to work with, means that they might not de able to fit the most effective DC-DC converter, and with ample heatsink compared to most powerbanks, that isn't likely to be a problem heat-wise, but may translate to more heat loss and less energy transferred to the target device.
The specs are a bit mushy when it comes to charging speeds, as it doesn't differentiate between input and output, so I suspect it's only valid for input. If it's the same spec either way, I'd be very impressed:
5V/3A, 9V/2A and 12V/1.5A

At this point it's still a guessing game, and with my very basic needs concerning powerbanks, it may take some time for the facts to be revealed. My basic needs are also part of why it makes sense to opt for a dual use device, it might not be everybody's cup of tea.


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Re: What's your latest flashlight?
Reply #2980 on: October 24, 2022, 10:33:52 PM
I'll try to remember that.
I should say I don't use powerbanks a lot. I don't use my phone for power hungry tasks and I have steady access to chargers throughout the day, most of the time. It's mainly an emergency device/feature, and usually if I have to take out my powerbank, it's for somebody else's emergency.

Now, besides being limited by the capacity of a single 21700 Li-Ion cell, I'm not sure exactly why I shouldn't expect a light to perform well as a powerbank.
The fact that it's a high output light, means they can't cheap out on some of the components that one might be tempted to save some money on in a dedicated powerbank. Now, this equation is obviously not just in favor of the flashlight. The fact that they have a more constrained weight, size and form factor canvas to work with, means that they might not de able to fit the most effective DC-DC converter, and with ample heatsink compared to most powerbanks, that isn't likely to be a problem heat-wise, but may translate to more heat loss and less energy transferred to the target device.
The specs are a bit mushy when it comes to charging speeds, as it doesn't differentiate between input and output, so I suspect it's only valid for input. If it's the same spec either way, I'd be very impressed:
5V/3A, 9V/2A and 12V/1.5A

At this point it's still a guessing game, and with my very basic needs concerning powerbanks, it may take some time for the facts to be revealed. My basic needs are also part of why it makes sense to opt for a dual use device, it might not be everybody's cup of tea.

Ahh that makes more sense, if you rarely need one yourself then it'll likely do the job just fine.

As for why a flashlight wouldn't be a good one:

- Ergonomically you can't practically hold both your phone and it in one hand like a powerbank, or rest the phone on top to take less space on a surface.

- The charging is not only going to be slower, but also less intelligent in reacting to the different types of devices you're charging.

- Single output

- Less capacity for the weight/bulk you're carrying

- The more you use your flashlight, the less charge you have available for your devices and vice versa.

I'm not opposed to this functionality, and for those like yourself, it might be more than sufficient. However, I'd never personally rely on one as my powerbank or choose a light based on it having that functionality. That's a personal preference, and I use powerbanks regularly with multiple devices, so a different set of needs.
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Re: What's your latest flashlight?
Reply #2981 on: October 25, 2022, 10:11:37 PM
Ahh that makes more sense, if you rarely need one yourself then it'll likely do the job just fine.

As for why a flashlight wouldn't be a good one:

- Ergonomically you can't practically hold both your phone and it in one hand like a powerbank, or rest the phone on top to take less space on a surface.

- The charging is not only going to be slower, but also less intelligent in reacting to the different types of devices you're charging.

- Single output

- Less capacity for the weight/bulk you're carrying

- The more you use your flashlight, the less charge you have available for your devices and vice versa.

I'm not opposed to this functionality, and for those like yourself, it might be more than sufficient. However, I'd never personally rely on one as my powerbank or choose a light based on it having that functionality. That's a personal preference, and I use powerbanks regularly with multiple devices, so a different set of needs.

You sound like a more advanced powerbank user than myself, so that shuffles the priorities around.
To your points (not to disagree, because I don’t, but rather to clarify my reasoning for anyone else who might see this as a relevant option::
- Ergonomics is a none issue. I would normally charge my device in the backpack, and if for instance I need to use the phone while charging, the charging cable is long enough (1.5m) that I can have the light/PB in my pocket or on my desk while using the phone. I used my old PB the same way, and the light is more comfortable in pocket.
- I need to test/measure the charging speed, as the spec. is a bit ambiguous, but if it can deliver 15/18W as it kind of suggests, that’s the same as my (iPhone) wall charger - which isn’t bad in my book. By intelligent, I suppose you mean able to negotiate the fastest supported charging protocol? I wouldn’t know, but it supports multiple voltage levels in at lest one direction, so there is some intelligence.
- Single output could become an issue. Not typically a problem I’m likely to run into, but if it comes to show that the charging output is mediocre, one output could be a bottleneck. Though slow charging is really the underlaying issue in that case.
- 5000mAh is probably less capacity than most PB’s on the market these days. It’s not terrible for the size and weight though. My old PB, based on size and specs, contains 4x18650 with a combined capacity of 10000mAh. While not double the size and weight, it’s bulky and fragile. Which means I have to add impact and water protection for backpacking, hunting and similar scenarios. That’s added weight, bulk, worry and inconvenience I don’t have to deal with anymore. The ruggedness and dual use capability of the light comes at a slight disadvantage in mAh/(weight x bulk), but it’s worth it. And while not a practical solution for everyday use, it’s also adaptable. Let’s say I take it for a longer backpacking trip, e.g. a week or more, I could add the number of separate 21700 cells I deem necessary - and adapt the capacity to my needs. I.e. I don’t have to buy different size PBs to accommodate variable needs.
- The last point isn’t an issue with the device. The user just has to be mindful about what it’s for. I consider it a PB for all practical purposes, another device will be my primary light source. So it won’t be used as a light unless I’m in a pinch, and in that case I rather have a PB with a light feature than one without.

Some of this reasoning may fall apart if I find out that it does a poor job as a PB, but this is the hypothesis I’m working with.


 

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