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SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
on: May 24, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
The Pythagorean theorem in 12 Classics.  :D
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #1 on: May 24, 2017, 08:40:54 PM
Nice one!

It's not failure if you learn something from it

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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #2 on: May 24, 2017, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: kottskrapa on May 24, 2017, 08:40:54 PM
Nice one!

It's not failure if you learn something from it

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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on May 24, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
The Pythagorean theorem in 12 Classics.  :D

Cool!
Now make one in 5, 12, 13! And 12, 35, 37! And 48, 55, 73!
How many Classics do you have? :pok:
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #4 on: May 24, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: Reinier on May 24, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on May 24, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
The Pythagorean theorem in 12 Classics.  :D

Cool!
Now make one in 5, 12, 13! And 12, 35, 37! And 48, 55, 73!
How many Classics do you have? :pok:
The next smallest would be 6,8,10 and I can't even do that. :-\
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #5 on: May 24, 2017, 09:15:50 PM
Classic, well done!   :like:   :like:

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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #6 on: May 24, 2017, 09:43:12 PM
Just consulted my math teacher friend.

It checks out.
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #7 on: May 24, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
what if you were to switch things up and mix in the 84mm, 111mm and 93mm?
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: styx on May 24, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
what if you were to switch things up and mix in the 84mm, 111mm and 93mm?

Way to throw a wrench in the gears, Styx!
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: styx on May 24, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
what if you were to switch things up and mix in the 84mm, 111mm and 93mm?

I think it can be done with 12 times 84 times 93 times 111 SAKs at most.
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #10 on: May 24, 2017, 10:15:29 PM
Brilliant.


The full representation requires drawing the full rectangulars, which means 4x the SAKs used. But this is an elegant abstract solution, similar to the one Pythagoras used the first time. Perhaps he used tiles or building blocks or something. This way he didn't have to prove that the angle is right, something you would have to prove when using sticks, or SAKs.
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #11 on: May 24, 2017, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: kkokkolis on May 24, 2017, 10:15:29 PM
Brilliant.


The full representation requires drawing the full rectangulars, which means 4x the SAKs used. But this is an elegant abstract solution, similar to the one Pythagoras used the first time. Perhaps he used tiles or building blocks or something. This way he didn't have to prove that the angle is right, something you would have to prove when using sticks, or SAKs.

We see why you're sporting the fancy hat and bow tie, we've got a professor in the house!  :D :cheers:
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #12 on: May 24, 2017, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on May 24, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: styx on May 24, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
what if you were to switch things up and mix in the 84mm, 111mm and 93mm?

I think it can be done with 12 times 84 times 93 times 111 SAKs at most.

Maybe SAK Guy can do it :)
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #13 on: May 24, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Finally somebody has proven a universal truth, smart people collect SAKs and MTs   :climber:
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #14 on: May 24, 2017, 10:29:46 PM
Quote from: Reinier on May 24, 2017, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on May 24, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: styx on May 24, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
what if you were to switch things up and mix in the 84mm, 111mm and 93mm?

I think it can be done with 12 times 84 times 93 times 111 SAKs at most.

Maybe SAK Guy can do it :)
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #15 on: May 24, 2017, 10:48:56 PM
Quote from: pa_strunk on May 24, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Finally somebody has proven a universal truth, smart people collect SAKs and MTs   :climber:


correlation vs causation

...I'm really kinda dumb... but then again I ONLY collect SAKs, not MT's too...
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #16 on: May 24, 2017, 11:49:25 PM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on May 24, 2017, 10:48:56 PM
Quote from: pa_strunk on May 24, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Finally somebody has proven a universal truth, smart people collect SAKs and MTs   :climber:


correlation vs causation

...I'm really kinda dumb... but then again I ONLY collect SAKs, not MT's too...
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #17 on: May 25, 2017, 02:30:04 AM
Quote from: aluminated on May 24, 2017, 11:49:25 PM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on May 24, 2017, 10:48:56 PM
Quote from: pa_strunk on May 24, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Finally somebody has proven a universal truth, smart people collect SAKs and MTs   :climber:


correlation vs causation

...I'm really kinda dumb... but then again I ONLY collect SAKs, not MT's too...
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #18 on: May 25, 2017, 02:30:54 AM
Quote from: Poncho65 on May 24, 2017, 08:46:20 PM
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #19 on: May 25, 2017, 03:32:03 AM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on May 24, 2017, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: styx on May 24, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
what if you were to switch things up and mix in the 84mm, 111mm and 93mm?

Way to throw a wrench in the gears, Styx!
I thought 84mm and 111mm knives don't have wenches; )

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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #20 on: May 25, 2017, 03:45:29 AM
Quote from: pa_strunk on May 24, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Finally somebody has proven a universal truth, smart people collect SAKs and MTs   :climber:
I'm not smart. I'm horrible at math and exact sciences in general. But, then again, I'm not a collector xD


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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #21 on: May 25, 2017, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on May 24, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
The Pythagorean theorem in 12 Classics.  :D

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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #22 on: May 26, 2017, 10:17:40 AM
If you create a triangle with 99 58 mm along one side, 93 91 mm along another and 92 111 mm along the last, it will have the angles ~34.21°, ~55.97°, ~89.82°. So if you have a large collection and plenty of room, that's one of the nicer solutions I found. (The almost hypotenuse will be over 10 m long, obviously.) Personally, I have neither the space at home, nor the knives, to demonstrate. :)

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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #23 on: May 26, 2017, 10:23:36 AM
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #24 on: May 26, 2017, 10:37:38 AM
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The Pythagorean theorem in 12 Classics.  :D

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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #26 on: May 26, 2017, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: BleaKrytE on May 25, 2017, 03:45:29 AM
Quote from: pa_strunk on May 24, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Finally somebody has proven a universal truth, smart people collect SAKs and MTs   :climber:
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #27 on: May 26, 2017, 03:24:52 PM
Nice toy!  :like:
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Re: SAKs and the Pythagorean Theorem
Reply #28 on: May 26, 2017, 04:32:38 PM
Quote from: Reinier on May 24, 2017, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on May 24, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: styx on May 24, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
what if you were to switch things up and mix in the 84mm, 111mm and 93mm?

I think it can be done with 12 times 84 times 93 times 111 SAKs at most.

Maybe SAK Guy can do it :)

Someone should challenge Robert to it then
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