Why so many of the same?

[kamakiri]

Same, but different. 5 Fisherman knives spanning not more than 6 years of production.

[Myron]

Cool!

[Rapidray]

Nice 

[Aloha]

The subtleties can keep the seemingly same SAKs not so same.  Nice SAKS 

[Yanossauro]

 
 

its like pokemons. you gotta catch em all!

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[kamakiri]

Cool!

Nice 

The subtleties can keep the seemingly same SAKs not so same.  Nice SAKS 

Thanks, gents! 

And absolutely agree on the subtleties...it’s the only way my chronology makes sense! In comparison to some of the tool details, the scale differences eventually become the really obvious ones.

[CraftsmanSAK]

Same, but different. 5 Fisherman knives spanning not more than 6 years of production.

This is exactly it...  The collection I've been making is the result of the slight variations between the same models over the years.  Victorinox really throws you some curves with the naming and even has some that should fall under another model name given the tool set, but at this point it is part of the fun finding those rare gems.  Like the Fisherman having a corkscrew on one version instead of the Phillips.  The bulk of my collection is within the 91mm lines of all model types, but each one I keep has something unique in its tool configuration, however slight.  For instance I have some that the only difference is pliers with and without crimpers.  It's a slight difference, and that's all the more I need to make it a keeper.  If I already have that exact type, I put it back out there on the auction sites in case someone else doesn't.  I've only ever been into collecting a few things...  US knives, SAK's, and US made playing cards.  (all of which drive my spousal unit up the wall    )

[Myron]

I hear you, brother.  My wife has just gotten used to saying, "Let me guess. This one has a keyring?"

[Rapidray]

 

[CraftsmanSAK]

 

[kamakiri]

Like the Fisherman having a corkscrew on one version instead of the Phillips. 

Don’t get me started on Anglers!  That’s another project I need to get to...related Wiki stuff that still needs fixin’!! 


 

(all of which drive my spousal unit up the wall    )

I think I’ve achieved the sweet spot...where she doesn’t say anything at all when something arrives. She does kid, “...you don’t happen to have a knife nearby?”  Anytime she needs something that can be solved with a SAK.

I hear you, brother.  My wife has just gotten used to saying, "Let me guess. This one has a keyring?"

 
 

[Nick4]

Don’t get me started on Anglers!  That’s another project I need to get to...related Wiki stuff that still needs fixin’!! 

Yes, indeed! 

Many variations of Fisherman and Angler models are needed to be described.   

[Storm]

I hear you, brother.  My wife has just gotten used to saying, "Let me guess. This one has a keyring?"

So what you're saying is thats shes coming over to your way of seeing things , however slowly 

[ddogu]

Who, me?

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[ddogu]

So what you're saying is thats shes coming over to your way of seeing things , however slowly 

 

[Myron]

So what you're saying is thats shes coming over to your way of seeing things , however slowly 

Ha, yes, if only.   

[Myron]

Thanks ddogu.  I love this thread and hope the OP is following along.  MTo seems like a funny place to hang out if you don't get duplicates and collections of things. 

[kamakiri]

Hard part is knowing there is at least one other version to get:

 

Been meaning to update...found a couple of the one I was missing!

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[Huntsman]

This is exactly it...  The collection I've been making is the result of the slight variations between the same models over the years. 

That is precisely the focus of my collection too - The variations in the tools over the years - My 'variations' are based on the SAAMS images and my dating spready
And for me I have kinda finished !! 

However, there is a whole other level of subtle differences if you are KK or JB or NeleDo         

Re The peanuts
- Very strange for me that having designed and put into production an inlay - Why would they then go and change it - three times?   
Even if it is over a few years
EDIT: Just answered my own question - Mr. Peanut changed their corporate logo - So I guess Vic has to too

[Altis]

Although I don't have two identical ones yet, I can see three compelling reasons for it:

1) To have extras in case they discontinue it and you either lose it or want to gift it to others
2) To have it in multiple locations (vehicles, buildings, kits, etc)
3) To have one as a shelf queen and one you can actually use.

I have two that are shelf queens: Spartan PS (white) and Bantam Alox LCASS (dark green). I already got a silver alox Bantam for actual use and I'd love to get another Spartan PS. I'm not even a fan of the toolset (big on the scissors), it's just so distinguished and beautiful.  I mean sweet murphy, look at it 


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I wish I had more Woodsmans as I think they're one of the most practical models.

[ElevenBlade]

Although I don't have two identical ones yet, I can see three compelling reasons for it:

1) To have extras in case they discontinue it and you either lose it or want to gift it to others
2) To have it in multiple locations (vehicles, buildings, kits, etc)
3) To have one as a shelf queen and one you can actually use.

I have two that are shelf queens: Spartan PS (white) and Bantam Alox LCASS (dark green). I already got a silver alox Bantam for actual use and I'd love to get another Spartan PS. I'm not even a fan of the toolset (big on the scissors), it's just so distinguished and beautiful.  I mean sweet murphy, look at it 


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I wish I had more Woodsmans as I think they're one of the most practical models.

I don't know why the Spartan PS isnt more popular. what it lacks in bells and whistles, it makes up in good looks.  Yes it's more expensive - but at the cost margin of an additional 91mm midsize SAK. 

Why don't I have one, you ask?  Scissors... thats why?   

[Altis]

I don't know why the Spartan PS isnt more popular. what it lacks in bells and whistles, it makes up in good looks.  Yes it's more expensive - but at the cost margin of an additional 91mm midsize SAK. 

Why don't I have one, you ask?  Scissors... thats why?   

I'm a bit surprised I haven't seen many others on the forum. Lots of other models are in the same price range, although it's definitely expensive for what you get (but so are some of the pricier limited Alox color models). I'm also worried that the finish is only so durable and would fade/scratch, which is also why I tend towards Alox models in Silver, although some colors wear nicely.

I'm with you on the scissors. I can only make an exception for them in the case of something very special like the Spartan PS or the very thin ones like the Bantam Alox (6mm  ). Although as my collection grows and tastes change, I start to want some of these models that never really appealed to me before, as was the case with the Walker.

[ElevenBlade]

I'm a bit surprised I haven't seen many others on the forum. Lots of other models are in the same price range, although it's definitely expensive for what you get (but so are some of the pricier limited Alox color models). I'm also worried that the finish is only so durable and would fade/scratch, which is also why I tend towards Alox models in Silver, although some colors wear nicely.

I'm with you on the scissors. I can only make an exception for them in the case of something very special like the Spartan PS or the very thin ones like the Bantam Alox (6mm  ). Although as my collection grows and tastes change, I start to want some of these models that never really appealed to me before, as was the case with the Walker.

Yep, I get that - as I get more models with the same "must have" tool, I start looking for something different.  First it was scissors... then it was corkscrews... then it was saws.... Then you get one that has them all... and then you want something slimmer.... and then you're out somewhere with your pant leg caught on a vine without the option to cut the vine instead of your pants and the cycle repeats itself.   

[Myron]

@Kamakiri, great set -- I love those Mr. Peanut SAKs.   

I love this thread and wonder if the OP is still around and has gotten his question answered? 

[kamakiri]

Re The peanuts
- Very strange for me that having designed and put into production an inlay - Why would they then go and change it - three times?   
Even if it is over a few years
EDIT: Just answered my own question - Mr. Peanut changed their corporate logo - So I guess Vic has to

I don’t want to argue...but decades are more relevant than years in this case. My chronology regarding 58mm is passive and low priority but these 4 (or actually 9 or 10) Planters versions have just enough overlap with my Hoffritz 58mm to be useful in that regard.

@Kamakiri, great set -- I love those Mr. Peanut SAKs.   

I love this thread and wonder if the OP is still around and has gotten his question answered? 

Thanks Myron!  I love them in a way...but still drives me nuts thinking there’s a mint or MIB copy of the nickel silver one out there!

 

As for the OP’s answer: Crazy Weirdos.

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The price premium of the PS Spartans is almost enough deterrent for owning multiples. I have a white one that’s a user and a minty black one for display. And then there are the MOTM PS Tinkers.

I do wish Victorinox would make more tools available in PS finish. I too would like scissors though I suspect there might be wear issues with the PS finish.

[MacGyver]

I don't know why the Spartan PS isnt more popular. what it lacks in bells and whistles, it makes up in good looks.  Yes it's more expensive - but at the cost margin of an additional 91mm midsize SAK. 

Why don't I have one, you ask?  Scissors... thats why?   

I'm a bit surprised I haven't seen many others on the forum. Lots of other models are in the same price range, although it's definitely expensive for what you get (but so are some of the pricier limited Alox color models). I'm also worried that the finish is only so durable and would fade/scratch, which is also why I tend towards Alox models in Silver, although some colors wear nicely.

I'm with you on the scissors. I can only make an exception for them in the case of something very special like the Spartan PS or the very thin ones like the Bantam Alox (6mm  ). Although as my collection grows and tastes change, I start to want some of these models that never really appealed to me before, as was the case with the Walker.

Well, about the Spartan PS for me at least, the answer it pretty simple....

Looks aside (and i don't really like the black tools), why on earth would i pay over 3 times more for a Spartan with no added features or different (better) materials?
I mean... a Spartan is like 20€, the Spartan PS is 72€.        It's a Spartan for pets's sake... same materials, same tool set, only difference is the metal is anodized (or whatever) black. It will wear/scratch/chip off with regular use/sharpening.
Just the other week i bought two PX's for roughly that price...

Hey, but that's just me.... To each it's own... 

[Myron]

Agreed, and I waited for a long time to get one.  Then one day I found them for only $38 on Amazon, so I caved and bought one.  And there it sits, unused with its Spartan mates in my drawer.  Kamakiri got it right: crazy weirdos. 

[Altis]

Well, about the Spartan PS for me at least, the answer it pretty simple....

Looks aside (and i don't really like the black tools), why on earth would i pay over 3 times more for a Spartan with no added features or different (better) materials?
I mean... a Spartan is like 20€, the Spartan PS is 72€.        It's a Spartan for pets's sake... same materials, same tool set, only difference is the metal is anodized (or whatever) black. It will wear/scratch/chip off with regular use/sharpening.
Just the other week i bought two PX's for roughly that price...

Hey, but that's just me.... To each it's own... 

Agreed, and I waited for a long time to get one.  Then one day I found them for only $38 on Amazon, so I caved and bought one.  And there it sits, unused with its Spartan mates in my drawer.  Kamakiri got it right: crazy weirdos. 

All good and valid points from a practical perspective.

But collecting is hardly about practical and economica -- if it were, I'd probably just have 2 or 3 SAKs and that'd be the end of it. 

Not much different than paying extra for a specific Alox color, or getting discontinued models. The PS is certainly quite unique as an offering from Victorinox, and like so many other special versions of things, it's a premium cost. Makes a nice addition to a collection or a nice gift! 

[kamakiri]

Agreed, and I waited for a long time to get one.  Then one day I found them for only $38 on Amazon, so I caved and bought one.  And there it sits, unused with its Spartan mates in my drawer.  Kamakiri got it right: crazy weirdos.

 

Sad part is that there’s proof of said crazy.

Attached...some of the knives in discussion. Did I really need another Marlboro knife? 2 (more) PS knives? Two of these A&F Champions because there are some minor differences?

Crazy. Weirdo. Check.

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[kamakiri]

All good and valid points from a practical perspective.

But collecting is hardly about practical and economica -- if it were, I'd probably just have 2 or 3 SAKs and that'd be the end of it. 

I’d have exactly 3. All of which were gifts to me.

‘84 Champion Black
‘87 Rambler Red (still MIB)
‘99 CT34 Ruby Red

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Back to the Planters topic...my 4 knives only ‘cover’ two logo iterations, so one effective change. From the first to the second, was driven by Vic’s change from nickel silver inlays to only stainless. The last two I believe are the ‘same’ logo, but not sure if the inlay option was essentially discontinued by Victorinox or a cost saving choice by Planters or both.

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