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OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
on: September 26, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
If it's not quite right or totally wrong...post it up!



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...or maybe it's just a ghost 'PAT'?  ::)
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #1 on: September 26, 2019, 06:02:38 PM
Apparently my MiniChamp XL left the factory with the slanted nail file facing the back of the knife when it should have been facing the shield side.
Maybe it's considered an assembly error more than a production error.  :think:
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #2 on: September 26, 2019, 06:35:22 PM
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #3 on: September 26, 2019, 06:41:09 PM
When did Vic start sharpening the inside curve of the screw driver? None of my 68 SAKs has the inside of the screw driver sharpened as in the top pic. Or is it just the angle of the pic?
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #4 on: September 26, 2019, 06:46:40 PM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on September 26, 2019, 06:02:38 PM
Apparently my MiniChamp XL left the factory with the slanted nail file facing the back of the knife when it should have been facing the shield side.
Maybe it's considered an assembly error more than a production error.  :think:


That makes it "rare" :D

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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #5 on: September 26, 2019, 06:48:25 PM
Quote from: kamakiri on September 26, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
If it's not quite right or totally wrong...post it up!



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...or maybe it's just a ghost 'PAT'?  ::)

That's interesting kamakiri! :cheers:
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #6 on: September 26, 2019, 06:59:06 PM
If collecting SAKs was like collecting stamps these would be worth a fortune.
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #7 on: September 26, 2019, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: fullbreakfast on September 26, 2019, 06:59:06 PM
If collecting SAKs was like collecting stamps these would be worth a fortune.
From the web:


1859 Sicilian Error of Color
Value: $2.6 million

The “Error of Color” is a misprinted Sicilian — printed blue instead of orange — that sold for €1.8 million ($2 million) in 2011. Surprisingly little information about the stamp itself is available, but the stamp is said to be in excellent condition and one of only two known in existence.

Related to this, I have an error of color Pioneer that was supposed to be red, but came out black. Any bidders?
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #8 on: September 26, 2019, 08:30:54 PM


Quote from: microbe on September 26, 2019, 07:34:51 PM

Related to this, I have an error of color Pioneer that was supposed to be red, but came out black. Any bidders?

I'll pay you with money that was supposed to be real, but came out with "Monopoly" printed on it :tu:
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #9 on: September 26, 2019, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: Rich S on September 26, 2019, 06:41:09 PM
When did Vic start sharpening the inside curve of the screw driver? None of my 68 SAKs has the inside of the screw driver sharpened as in the top pic. Or is it just the angle of the pic?
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Rich, per the SAKWiki, it is called a cutting notch and the Soldier 1961 models had them up until 1993 or so.  Im sure someone else here can provide more detailed info.  :hatsoff:
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Reply #10 on: September 26, 2019, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on September 26, 2019, 08:30:54 PM

I'll pay you with money that was supposed to be real, but came out with "Monopoly" printed on it :tu:

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Reply #11 on: September 26, 2019, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: Rich S on September 26, 2019, 06:41:09 PM
When did Vic start sharpening the inside curve of the screw driver? None of my 68 SAKs has the inside of the screw driver sharpened as in the top pic. Or is it just the angle of the pic?
Rich

Quote from: HolyDeuce on September 26, 2019, 08:48:56 PM
Rich, per the SAKWiki, it is called a cutting notch and the Soldier 1961 models had them up until 1993 or so.  Im sure someone else here can provide more detailed info.  :hatsoff:

If I'm understanding Rich correctly, I think he means on the cellidor knives?  That would be starting in mid '51 with the 'new' US PAT PEND/+PAT can opener.  There is supposed to be a time in the late '60s when the sharpened edge was omitted, perhaps briefly.
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #12 on: September 26, 2019, 09:25:37 PM
Quote from: kamakiri on September 26, 2019, 09:11:33 PM
If I'm understanding Rich correctly, I think he means on the cellidor knives?  That would be starting in mid '51 with the 'new' US PAT PEND/+PAT can opener.  There is supposed to be a time in the late '60s when the sharpened edge was omitted, perhaps briefly.

Yeah, I misunderstood.  My bad.  :whistle:
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Reply #13 on: September 26, 2019, 10:48:11 PM
A $2 million dollar stamp  :facepalm:
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Reply #14 on: September 26, 2019, 10:58:08 PM
US Post Office could use a $2 mil stamp right about now. Not sure if thatd actually help the cause though  :facepalm:

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Reply #15 on: September 27, 2019, 11:13:51 AM
Not sure I would call it a production error, but I still find it a bit amusing.
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Reply #16 on: September 27, 2019, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: moonweasel on September 27, 2019, 11:13:51 AM
Not sure I would call it a production error, but I still find it a bit amusing.
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There for a long time, Wengers in Vic packaging were quite common--clearing out old Wenger factory stock?
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Reply #17 on: September 27, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
That was my thought  :iagree:
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Reply #18 on: September 27, 2019, 04:08:23 PM
Quote from: cody6268 on September 27, 2019, 02:50:32 PM
There for a long time, Wengers in Vic packaging were quite common--clearing out old Wenger factory stock?

I'd say so, but it does appeal to me in some weird way
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Reply #19 on: September 27, 2019, 07:40:11 PM
Re: my earlier post this thread:

I finally got around to looking through my SAK collection and I did find an Alox Soldier (curses-forgot to check the year) that does have a sharpened inside curve on the screwdriver.  Amazing what you find out on the board. :)
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Reply #20 on: September 27, 2019, 07:53:15 PM
Quote from: Rich S on September 27, 2019, 07:40:11 PM
Re: my earlier post this thread:

I finally got around to looking through my SAK collection and I did find an Alox Soldier (curses-forgot to check the year) that does have a sharpened inside curve on the screwdriver.  Amazing what you find out on the board. :)
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Oh cool, one of the older ones then!  :tu:
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Reply #21 on: September 27, 2019, 11:45:41 PM
Quote from: Rich S on September 27, 2019, 07:40:11 PM
Re: my earlier post this thread:

I finally got around to looking through my SAK collection and I did find an Alox Soldier (curses-forgot to check the year) that does have a sharpened inside curve on the screwdriver.  Amazing what you find out on the board. :)
Rich

Hey Rich,

Some of my Pioneers have this too.   This early one has both the ground edge and the wire bender/stripper:




And as you note, some earlier Model 1961's.  These are both '65's:




And I also have an 84 mm cellidor SAK (Salesman, I think?) that has both the ground stripper edge, and the wire stripping notch (lower right in picture):




I wish Vx still did this to the cap lifter tool.  It's a useful feature.

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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #22 on: September 28, 2019, 01:11:47 AM
Quote from: Myron on September 27, 2019, 11:45:41 PM
Hey Rich,

Some of my Pioneers have this too.   This early one has both the ground edge and the wire bender/stripper:

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And as you note, some earlier Model 1961's.  These are both '65's:

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And I also have an 84 mm cellidor SAK (Salesman, I think?) that has both the ground stripper edge, and the wire stripping notch (lower right in picture):

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I wish Vx still did this to the cap lifter tool.  It's a useful feature.

Myron
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #23 on: September 28, 2019, 01:12:05 AM
Quote from: moonweasel on September 27, 2019, 11:13:51 AM
Not sure I would call it a production error, but I still find it a bit amusing.
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #24 on: September 28, 2019, 04:06:19 AM
'72 246fmaU Champion 'A':





I don't normally chase models with boxes, but how often does one come NIB/MIB with an unsharpened awl? It does have the concave grind, but no edge and no tip grind.  And to my knowledge, it wasn't a display model...and everything else is sharp.
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #25 on: September 30, 2019, 08:35:04 PM
Quote from: fullbreakfast on September 26, 2019, 06:59:06 PM
If collecting SAKs was like collecting stamps these would be worth a fortune.

Kinda works for the rare functionally defective models like SwissFlame or Autotool.
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #26 on: October 12, 2019, 03:50:14 AM
Rediscovered this today on an early '80s Ranger:



And if it's not clear in the pic, the pair of cuts toward the tip aren't as deep, and the tip is deeper than a wood saw should be of this era (post '79 with the bump in the backspring tip) and is 'in line' with the bulk of the saw teeth tips. Minor error, but I think it might have come loose from the jig or perhaps the cutting wheel shattered on that last pair of cuts.
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #27 on: October 12, 2019, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: kamakiri on October 12, 2019, 03:50:14 AM
Rediscovered this today on an early '80s Ranger:

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And if it's not clear in the pic, the pair of cuts toward the tip aren't as deep, and the tip is deeper than a wood saw should be of this era (post '79 with the bump in the backspring tip) and is 'in line' with the bulk of the saw teeth tips. Minor error, but I think it might have come loose from the jig or perhaps the cutting wheel shattered on that last pair of cuts.
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Reply #28 on: October 12, 2019, 04:41:26 PM
Not sure if it’s really an error.
I’m guessing it’s just worn tools on the production line that couldn’t cut quite close enough and it left a bit of excess material on there.
They were only small flakes so just lightly scraped them off with some ceramic tweezers.
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Re: OOPS! - SAK Production Errors
Reply #29 on: October 12, 2019, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: KeepCalmCarryOn on October 12, 2019, 04:41:26 PM
Not sure if it’s really an error.
I’m guessing it’s just worn tools on the production line that couldn’t cut quite close enough and it left a bit of excess material on there.
They were only small flakes so just lightly scraped them off with some ceramic tweezers.
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