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00 Offline kwakster

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Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
on: December 04, 2019, 11:43:03 AM
Vintage Puma 8101-"lang" Texas Bill throwing scout knife (Fahrtenmesser) from the early 1950's.
This is the slightly longer version of the original Texas Bill knife.
Definitely one of the more elusive Puma scout models, especially in this condition.
Complete with original sheath.













Texas Bill was the main character in a series of German Wild-West novels from that era:







Specs:

Overall length: 9.33 inch (23,7 cm)
Blade length: 5.63 inch (14,3 cm)
Blade thickness (max): 4,91 mm
Steel: drop-forged carbon steel
Handle materials: brass guard, leather & fiber washers, aluminium pommel with brass nut.
Weight: 136.9 grams
Sheath: leather

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Re: Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
Reply #1 on: December 04, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
Really like that blade shape. When I saw the first pic I thought it would be much longer.
Awesome old knife.  :hatsoff:
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Re: Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
Reply #2 on: December 04, 2019, 01:13:02 PM
The blade shape is not my favourite, but the knife as a whole......the history  :salute: :tu:

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Re: Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
Reply #3 on: December 04, 2019, 03:41:34 PM
Great knife and find! Enjoy  :cheers:
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Re: Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
Reply #4 on: December 04, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: kwakster on December 04, 2019, 11:43:03 AM
Vintage Puma 8101-"lang" Texas Bill throwing scout knife (Fahrtenmesser) from the early 1950's.
This is the slightly longer version of the original Texas Bill knife.
Definitely one of the more elusive Puma scout models, especially in this condition.
Complete with original sheath.


Specs:

Overall length: 9.33 inch (23,7 cm)
Blade length: 5.63 inch (14,3 cm)
Blade thickness (max): 4,91 mm
Steel: drop-forged carbon steel
Handle materials: brass guard, leather & fiber washers, aluminium pommel with brass nut.
Weight: 136.9 grams
Sheath: leather

Very cool kwakster ! :like: :tu: :tu:
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Re: Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
Reply #5 on: December 05, 2019, 04:10:24 AM
Very  8)  Knife!      :like:
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Re: Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
Reply #6 on: December 05, 2019, 02:31:20 PM
When i bought it the knife looked & felt a bit different,  8)

The Puma factory worker who put the knife together all these years ago threaded a too small section of the tang end, and as a result the brass nut could never be tightened fully to securely compress pommel & washers (which had also shrunk a bit over the years), so all handle parts were very loose, and the brass nut itself was also sticking out of the pommel a few millimeters.
Let's just say that quality control on this knife could have been a bit better.

Lucky for me is that this issue was most likely also the reason why the knife was never really used over the years.
So when i received it i disassembled the handle, lengthened the threading (M5), polished the guard a bit, glued all the washers back in place, lightly sanded the handle surface, polished the aluminium pommel and the (now flush) brass nut end a bit, then nourished the old leather with a few coatings of warm Ganger's wax.

Picture #3 shows the small section of threading best:



Currently i'm still thinking if i should give the knife a nice new edge or just leave the bluntish factory edge like it is.


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Re: Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
Reply #7 on: December 05, 2019, 03:11:09 PM
Only sharp knives are interesting!
You have taken it down, fixed the problem. I would be sharping that puppy up.  :like: :cheers:
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Re: Vintage Puma 8101 - "Lang" Texas Bill Scout Knife
Reply #8 on: December 06, 2019, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: kwakster on December 05, 2019, 02:31:20 PM


Currently i'm still thinking if i should give the knife a nice new edge or just leave the bluntish factory edge like it is.

I think you should sharpen it. :D

It is a cool knife! :cheers:
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