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'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ? 467

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'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« on: June 21, 2020, 04:41:21 PM »
Hi,
Just a quick one,

What are the accepted rules regarding the re-naming of a tool after modifying it or using parts from another tool.
I have a custom Charge TTi which I would like to feature, but Im not sure about the etiquette.  ?? 

Thx 

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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2020, 04:46:58 PM »
Hey Mate,

I think we are pretty relaxed about this
eg - I don't think names get claimed by members etc etc

The only rule seems to be if you modded it - You name it    :pok:     :D
And of course this is all just internal to MT.o
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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2020, 05:37:52 PM »
Speaking for one of my mods, I applied the rule "show the mod, solicit opinions from the members and reward the best contribution(s) in the course of a GAW, and then make up your own mind". That is the way. The Mandalorian MTO way.  :cheers:

Cheers!
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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2020, 04:37:33 PM »
Or... just call it George!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Kwcs8BOE0

 :D :D

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Newbie Posts: 11 Small Knives Matter
Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2020, 09:00:37 PM »
Great, many thanks.

I might be putting up a few pics of my Charge mods over the next few weeks. It all started back in 2017 when I ended up with a Charge and a Surge sitting in a draw. I didnt want to carry either of them, mainly due to the Charge having a useless plier head for my needs (imo) , and the Surge being great, but too heavy for an everyday carry (imo).

Im slightly hesitant about posting details what happened next, as I have a sneaking suspicion that a few questions might follow, as well as some raised eyebrow's.... lol
Anyway, bare with me... Im a lazy poster.

I might start a new thread in the 'mod squad' section.  :salute:

Pic1   The tools in question.
Pic2,  One month into the mod... lol....what the hell did I get myself into !




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Re-location of Surge plier head holes...... not a joke
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2020, 12:34:06 AM »
Full size Surge head mod.
Surge holes enlarged and reamed out to size then plugged ready for relocated holes which match the Charge's smaller hole pitch. (distance apart)
« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 12:44:54 AM by Harpo »

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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2020, 02:10:37 PM »
 :like: :wait: :D

Cheers!
Dutch_Tooler

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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2020, 04:56:06 PM »
Pretty interesting!!   :tu:
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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2020, 05:19:45 PM »
How are you going to plug the holes Harpo?

Cheers!
Dutch_Tooler

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Newbie Posts: 11 Small Knives Matter
Hole fill etc
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2020, 06:02:01 PM »
Its pretty difficult to explain, having already done it, but here goes.

I enlarged the original holes using a cobalt drill then used a reamer to achieve the correct finished size (dowel size that is)
Dowels were then press fitted in place (interference fit), ground flush then drilled out to match the new Charge diamension.
A a couple of dimples were drilled across the edges and filled with a very small weld, just to make sure the press fit inserts stayed put.
More re-finishing followed and a couple more dimples and tiny welds etc.

The welds were quite difficult to achieve as the work piece had to be kept cold while being welded.... if that makes sense?

After about three days of messing around I finally achieved something that quite close to a factory finish regarding the new holes anyway. Problem was this left me with a new problem. The tapered scrolls which locate into each handle mechanism needed to be reduced down in size if the handles were to close.

That took another three days.... lol..... at this point I started questioning my own sanity, although,  I could now see it could work if I didnt make a stupid error.

This is making me tense just recalling it back.... lol

I must have been mad.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 06:23:46 PM by Harpo »

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.... and another thing
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2020, 06:05:22 PM »
Almost forgot, at this time I also started working on a full size 1/4" bit driver to replace the standard Leatherman 'flat' bit original. (see the last pics)
The 1/4" bit driver is a work in progress, in the rough.... I still have a few issues/options to overcome regarding the way I want it to fold into the tool, (Cutouts), but strength wise its great.
I will put the pics up when its close to completion..... if I dont mess it up that is lol

PS:  I would have considered using the aftermarket 1/4" bit driver mentioned on the forum, but it doesnt allow for the phosphor bronze bushes im fitting throughout my build... shame

« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 06:54:17 PM by Harpo »

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PPS
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2020, 07:07:20 PM »
Before anyone asks 'why the hell did you do it ?....
I needed an everyday carry that could evenly hold a 1" - 25mm  circular object (pipe etc). The Surge became a pain at work, due its weight/size and grip angle when fully open.  The Charge had zero capability when gripping round objects over 20 mm - 3/4" due to the wire cutter faces creating a point load which could of sheared the plier head when gripping large objects..
Mine now grips up to 32mm - 1 1/4" evenly... see pic
« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 07:16:04 PM by Harpo »

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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2020, 09:07:20 PM »
Impressive work so far, it looks great and I hope to see the rest of it!
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Slots
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2020, 02:16:04 PM »
Working out the slot locations for the bit holder.
Oddly enough ..... strength isnt much of an an issue regarding the extra slots. The plier end of the tool has much larger cutouts for the liner locks, and functions just fine under a lot more pressure than 2x 3mm slots 10mm long will create at the other end.
.... famous last words lol.

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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2020, 06:16:19 PM »
Now this looks not only interesting, but also promising; a heavy duty pliers head in a compact and portable size! And to think I was happy with my Wave and ST 300...
Kudos to you, Harpo, as it appears to be a well planned and engineered (not to mention fun) modification.

Eagerly awaiting finished results!

:tu: :cheers:
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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2020, 06:37:29 PM »
Nice work  :o    I think this might make you eligible for the advanced modder badge   :hatsoff:
Newbie Posts: 11 Small Knives Matter
Many thanks
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2020, 07:40:09 PM »
Cheers.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2020, 07:47:55 PM by Harpo »

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Re: 'Rules' regarding the new name given to a tool. ?
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2020, 12:27:44 AM »
Nice work  :o    I think this might make you eligible for the advanced modder badge   :hatsoff:

...... I give awards... I dont like receiving them.. lol
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 12:39:19 AM by Harpo »

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