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Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
on: January 10, 2021, 05:11:15 PM
I love the subtle polychromatic finish on the Black Oxide Swisstools.  I frequently work outside in the sun, so anything that's less likely to burn my retinas is also a good thing.  But I can't find any Black Swisstool Spirit's without the cap crimper.  Is Victorinox only making these with the crimper now?  Anyone know?   I'd rather have it with a normal plyer head.  Thanks in advance!

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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #1 on: January 10, 2021, 05:30:14 PM
The normal plier head version was made for the Dutch army.
A few members ordered the new XBS when it was released and got a normal pliers head too.
Nowadays, they seem to be completely discontinued.

However, there's always the possibility of asking a Dutch member to find and send you one.
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #2 on: January 10, 2021, 05:43:14 PM
 Victorinox uses a very shiny BO coating which isn't much different in the sun as there SS versions.
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #3 on: January 10, 2021, 06:57:34 PM
Mechanickal is right.
I don't find the Cap Crimper being of much hindrance though.

Having said that I'll add some examples of what Steve means....
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #4 on: January 10, 2021, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: McStitchy on January 10, 2021, 06:57:34 PM
Mechanickal is right.
I don't find the Cap Crimper being of much hindrance though.

Having said that I'll add some examples of what Steve means....

Nice pics!

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #5 on: January 10, 2021, 07:07:17 PM
Thanks Reinier  :hatsoff:
Do you want to sell two of them?

One to Kale and one to me?  :pok:
I'm not joking  :ahhh
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #6 on: January 10, 2021, 07:16:40 PM
I'm sorry but the pic is six years old. I don't have any left. I lost track of the guy I bought dozens from.
I may find a few more but prices have gone up significantly :(
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #7 on: January 10, 2021, 07:18:32 PM
Ah well... thanks anyways  :cheers:
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #8 on: January 10, 2021, 09:19:01 PM
Maybe try a DIY?
Get a Spirit and blacken it using Ferric Chloride (colour range is around charcoal grey to black). It's not exactly BO,but close,and you can refinish as necessary.
I plan on doing this sonetime.
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #9 on: January 10, 2021, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: SteveC on January 10, 2021, 05:43:14 PM
Victorinox uses a very shiny BO coating which isn't much different in the sun as there SS versions.

The black oxide is definitely shiny, which gives it a look I appreciate.  But is the reflection potentially blinding (as is the standard Victorinox steel)?

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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #10 on: January 10, 2021, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on January 10, 2021, 05:30:14 PM
The normal plier head version was made for the Dutch army.
A few members ordered the new XBS when it was released and got a normal pliers head too.
Nowadays, they seem to be completely discontinued.

However, there's always the possibility of asking a Dutch member to find and send you one.

Does that include the new one-hand opening model, MXBS (which I noticed has normal pliers, but is unfortunately missing the saw)?

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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #11 on: January 10, 2021, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: McStitchy on January 10, 2021, 06:57:34 PM
Mechanickal is right.
I don't find the Cap Crimper being of much hindrance though.


Thanks!  Good to know.  It would be my first plyer-based multitool.  I'm also considering the Rebar (for price and needlenose) and the G-10 Charge (for the bright handles, easy to spot working outdoors).  But my gut tells me I will prefer the Spirit (for tool selection and overall quality).

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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #12 on: January 10, 2021, 10:28:58 PM
Quote from: Kale on January 10, 2021, 09:54:42 PM
Does that include the new one-hand opening model, MXBS (which I noticed has normal pliers, but is unfortunately missing the saw)?
If it did, I'd jump right on that :D

Those are even harder to get at the moment
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #13 on: January 10, 2021, 10:33:07 PM
Quote from: Kale on January 10, 2021, 09:47:38 PM
The black oxide is definitely shiny, which gives it a look I appreciate.  But is the reflection potentially blinding (as is the standard Victorinox steel)?

I guess my pictures above did not help much.
It definitively is not reflecting as much light as the bare polished stainless steel ones.

I can try and make a picture comparison with the normal Spirit, BO Spirit and a BO Wave of you like  :salute:

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Both taken with the same exposure settings.

1st pic: BO Spirit vs SS Spirit
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I've chosen an angle that would reflect the led light running through the middle of the tools to show the differences in reflection  :salute:
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Reply #14 on: January 10, 2021, 10:42:39 PM
Random pic just to pretty up the thread  :whistle:


You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #15 on: January 10, 2021, 11:04:55 PM
That's a knock-off. There should be a Victorinox emblem on that pouch and not that funny imprint. :pok:
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Reply #16 on: January 10, 2021, 11:05:42 PM
:rofl:
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #17 on: January 10, 2021, 11:07:19 PM
 :D
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #18 on: January 10, 2021, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: McStitchy on January 10, 2021, 10:33:07 PM

It definitively is not reflecting as much light as the bare polished stainless steel ones.


That was my impression, I just misunderstood what you said.  Thanks for all the pictures... it's quite a photographic tool!

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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #19 on: January 10, 2021, 11:18:21 PM
It is  :tu:
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Re: Black Swisstool Spirit Without Cap Crimper... Still Available?
Reply #20 on: January 13, 2021, 07:24:32 AM
Quote from: McStitchy on January 10, 2021, 10:33:07 PM
I guess my pictures above did not help much.
It definitively is not reflecting as much light as the bare polished stainless steel ones.

I can try and make a picture comparison with the normal Spirit, BO Spirit and a BO Wave of you like  :salute:

EDIT:
I've added two pictures for you.
Both taken with the same exposure settings.

1st pic: BO Spirit vs SS Spirit
2nd pic: BO Spirit vs BO Wave

I've chosen an angle that would reflect the led light running through the middle of the tools to show the differences in reflection  :salute:

the Spirit looks like a PVD coating and the Wave looks like an etched finish
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