Questions about VSAK Scissor Spring Repair Kit and Springs

[jph_777]

I recently found and purchased a Victorinox Scissors and Pliers Spring Repair Kit.  It had a lot of springs in it, but they were jumbled around randomly in the various compartments.  It seems to be in great condition and probably close to complete (maybe a few springs at most are missing).

I am having a difficult time researching and finding out which springs normally would go into each compartment, for arranging them with authenticity, and for understanding the numbering codes vs. the color codes.

I sorted out all the springs, and have the following:  See attached photo, left to right (Click on photos for larger versions).
Large (large loop where it attaches to the scissors)
Medium (small loop)
Medium (large loop)
Small (small loop)
Single Leaf (looks like a small loop, hard to tell)

**(None of the springs are the “New” type for the scissors with the groove or notch for the spring to slip into to follow on its free end for knives made after 1990.  They all have “bent” ends, and appear to all be the “Old” type springs.)

The Red “Disassembly/Assembly Tool” is marked 1.37/0.65.
The Green “Disassembly/Assembly Tool” is marked 0.37/0.62.
These numbers appear to correspond to the numbers on the wood box in front of each compartment.

I know that the Red tool works with the springs that have “large loops”, and the Green Tool works with springs that have “small loops”.

The bottoms of the compartments seem to be color coded red or green, but the numbers of the compartments do not match the colors of the tools in every case.

QUESTIONS: What to the numbers refer to?  Is it the size of something?  The loop?  The Spring itself?  Why is 0.37 grouped with 1.37 in the box, but those numbers are on different tools, 1.37 on the red one, and 0.37 on the green one?  And what is the “N” on “1.37 N” ?  At first I thought the “N” stood for “New”, but none of the springs were the new type (after 1990).  And besides, 1.37 in the box is green, and 137N in the box is red… Then there is also “0.65” and “0.65 N”, also different colors.   

Any knowledge of what the numbers mean, and the organizational logic of Victorinox would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

[Chako]

I have the same kit. I will take photos of mine and post them in here later as I am not currently home.

[ComboTool]

I have the same kit and do it by eye, comparing the spring I want to replace with what's in the box but I'm guessing the 1.37, 0.65, etc. refer to the first digits of the Victorinox model number: e.g. the Climber is 1.3703 (as per sakwiki), the Ambassador is 0.6500, 0.6502 and 0.6503 and you should use the corresponding spring.

[Chako]

Looks like I have the older kit based on the video from SwissBianco I will be posting after all of this.

20210719_083718A by Chako, on Flickr

A closeup of the cardboard outer box with the number.
20210719_083725A by Chako, on Flickr

20210719_083808A by Chako, on Flickr

Instructions (You should be able to zoom in closer once you click on the photo):
20210719_083859A by Chako, on Flickr

20210719_084029A by Chako, on Flickr

20210719_084037A by Chako, on Flickr

20210719_084049A by Chako, on Flickr

20210719_084128A by Chako, on Flickr

20210719_084138A by Chako, on Flickr

20210719_084207A by Chako, on Flickr

And that video...



Hope this was helpful. 

[Chako]

Also found this official Victorinox video:

[jph_777]

Thanks for the input Chako and ComboTool.
I understand how to use the kit, that is not a problem at all.  I also can pick out the right spring by eye.
My questions are:  What do the numbers mean on the compartments of the box?  And the numbers on the Disassembly/Assembly Tool. ( 0.37, 1.37, 1.37N, 0.62, 0.65, 0.65N)?
ComboTool, your speculation is interesting, and may have some relevance, but upon further looking into the part numbers for other 91mm knives, I don't see how they fit into that theory.  Climber: 1.3703 matches "1.37", but Spartan: 1.3603, Explorer: 1.6703, Compact: 1.3405, Tinker: 1.4603, Swiss Champ: 1.6795, etc., all take the same spring (Large), but have different numbers that do not correlate with any in the Spring Repair Kit.  Likewise with 58 mm VSAKS.  The Ambassador is 0.6500, but the Minichamp is 0.6343, Manager is 0.6365, etc., again, numbers that are not in the Spring Repair Box.
I'm sure some rhyme and reason is reflected in the numbers, I just can't figure out what it is.
Chako, you may not have the time to sort out your springs, but if you do, how many variations do you have out of the bunch?  Out of roughly 100 springs in mine, there were only the five variations that I noted in the original post.  No "Newer" type springs that have the end that rides inside a channel in newer scissors after 1990, so I'm wondering what the "N" also means, appended to some of the numbers.
Anyone who can crack the code?   

[Chako]

I have always thought they were metric measurements and not related to model codes. I would hazard a guess that my older kit would have the same number of springs. Does yours come with screws?

[jph_777]

Yes, mine came with screws that were labeled the same as yours.  I did find a reference somewhere that said the 0.36 & 1.36 screws are for small scissors, and the 0.62 & 0.63 screws were for the large scissors.  Again, I'm not sure why one package has both 0.36 and 1.36 on it, and the other 0.62 and 0.63.  I assume they are measurements of some sort.

[Chako]

I searched the internet and came up empty.

[Little Tinker]

For anyone finding this in the future, I put a guide to why the numbers appear to be what they are plus which springs seem to be in the old and new versions of this kit over here: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,89337.msg2463925.html#msg2463925.