Help please - yes, need another knife

[furry]

Hi again

Here is my problem.

I'm looking for a SAK to go with my ST spirit plus.  Simples, you may think, but here is the left and right of arc...

It will go in a (homemade) pouch with the spirit (she needs a friend  ), so it doesn't need whistles and bells.

It must be OH opener.

Must be straight blade; the (very) few times i have needed a serated edge, i've had an MT - have one on the Spirit

I'm not bothered about the UK knife law; i WILL have a 'good reason' to carry it when i do.

I have looked at the Vic range, but can't find a suitble candidate (nothing but the best for my girl  ).  So i feel i must switch to ... can't believe i am going to say this... a WENGER!!

Further research has thrown up the Wenger newranger 51, as shown (if clicky works)

 http://www.swiss-army-knife-wenger.co.uk/swiss_army_knife_newranger_51.html

I would appreciate any ideas from the massed guys and girls, or, indeed, any reviews/experiance with the wenger.

Oh, one last thing...

Lets not have the old 'you need X. Or you could do with Y. Or even ' you know what that needs...Z'; last time i did that, i ended upp with a Workchamp 

Thanks in advance

[Dunc]

What about a Vic Sentinal , that model offers a choice of one or two handed opening with either straight or wavy edge . The model to suit your needs is Sentinel One Hand 0.8413.M3   
http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=559&lang=E


I wouldn't mind one myself 


Dunc

[Neil]

What Dunc said but I'll just muddy the waters a little and say that Wenger's current crop of Rangers are excellent knives and I really don't think you'd be disappointed with it.

[furry]

Ohh. Liking the sentinal; forgot about the tweezers  doh!

We may have a winner!

i'll give it a few hours whilst i decide

Thanks for the replies fellas

[Sazabi]

Or there's always the option of the OH Forester coming out soon... OH blade (PE maybe?) and corkscrew, which if you have the Spirit with ratchet, would be a nice pairing, especially if you add a mini driver to the corkscrew... if you need tweezers and toothpick, either replace the Grip scales, or wait to see if Victorinox is releasing the OH Forester in the standard nylon scales, too?

[furry]

Had a look and can't find a UK supplier (need to get it sent to BFPO). Bugger! i'll keep looking

Sazabi: cheers fella, but my spirit came with the corkscrew and mini screwdriver; i just have to work out how to make my own pouch to incorperate it all without ending up with a mahoosive pooch  . would like to get it sooner, rather than later.

May have to go for the Wenger

[Neil]

Try Felinevet

Best to drop him a PM here on the forum

Tim's a good bloke, he'll be able to sort you out

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Try Felinevet

Best to drop him a PM here on the forum

Tim's a good bloke, he'll be able to sort you out

And you'll be supporting both the site, and his kitty charity too

[Styerman]

furry , I carry the corkscrew and minidriver in my wallet . You might want to consider the new OH Soldier , they and the GAK's seem unappealing , but grow on you . The serrated blade is really quite good for abusive/dirty cutting , the plain edged section is in the right place for more precise cutting .

Chris

[hawkchucker]

Hey dont knock the 51/ Here is a review I did of it 2 years ago.http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,8006.0.html

[hawkchucker]

Oh ya and for two years the same 51 Grant gave me still sits in my left back pocket every day at work. It is a grunt, and works. Plus if ya ever saw the size of my ass that should sell it on its toughness!

[Gareth]

I've not had a 51 but I did have a 78.  Nothing at all wrong with the quality IMO and I don't think you'd be disappointed.  The only downside is that the scales are bulky but that shouldn't be an issue if you plan on carrying it in a pouch.  Some good thoughts and comparison shots between the Vic and the Wenger SAKs to be read here:

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,12362.0.html

[ari6126]

Have you handled a New Ranger? They are much larger than the 111mm Vic line.

[furry]

Thanks so far guys.

Not really worried about the size of the knife; as i said, it will go in a pouch.

May well still go for the sentinal, although may go for something with a saw, as the one on the spirit seems a bit small (doh, i've started it again!)

[Santos]

there is also the plain edge new-soldier by swissbianco if you are really anti serrated when it comes to the new swiss soldier and OHGak.

The woodsaw i am guessing is larger than the spirit one and probably more comfortable to use.

Sorry if i am Y, Z and X'-ing.
 i don't quite understand the single blade saks, i always feel there are better suited non-swiss optionsto my needs. (and 19 times out of twenty i will opt for a fixed blade)

[Freudian Frog]

Thanks so far guys.

Not really worried about the size of the knife; as i said, it will go in a pouch.

May well still go for the sentinal, although may go for something with a saw, as the one on the spirit seems a bit small (doh, i've started it again!)

OHT's are pretty cheap.

The only 111m I own... for that reason too.

[Neil]

there is also the plain edge new-soldier by swissbianco if you are really anti serrated when it comes to the new swiss soldier and OHGak.

The woodsaw i am guessing is larger than the spirit one and probably more comfortable to use.

Sorry if i am Y, Z and X'-ing.
 i don't quite understand the single blade saks, i always feel there are better suited non-swiss optionsto my needs. (and 19 times out of twenty i will opt for a fixed blade)

That's another option but for a non-collector a much cheaper option would be a normal Soldier and remove the serrations, they're not deep so it doesn't take long.

[Santos]

[Benner]

For me, if you are right handed I'd chose the Ranger every time.  The liner lock on the Vic's is kinda the decider for me as they are put on the "wrong" way round and for anyone that uses a regular liner locking folder as I do it just feels really awkward to release IMO.  The Wenger Ranger however has the button release and is very very simple.  They also have the moulded scales which I think add nice ergo's and I prefer the blade shape and length of them to.

[Styerman]

For me, if you are right handed I'd chose the Ranger every time.  The liner lock on the Vic's is kinda the decider for me as they are put on the "wrong" way round and for anyone that uses a regular liner locking folder as I do it just feels really awkward to release IMO.  The Wenger Ranger however has the button release and is very very simple.  They also have the moulded scales which I think add nice ergo's and I prefer the blade shape and length of them to.

Benner ,I have grown to like the Vic. lockup , no way it will accidentally dissengage if white knuckled like a conventional liner lock . That can hurt , I had it happen once .

Chris

[Benner]

For me, if you are right handed I'd chose the Ranger every time.  The liner lock on the Vic's is kinda the decider for me as they are put on the "wrong" way round and for anyone that uses a regular liner locking folder as I do it just feels really awkward to release IMO.  The Wenger Ranger however has the button release and is very very simple.  They also have the moulded scales which I think add nice ergo's and I prefer the blade shape and length of them to.

Benner ,I have grown to like the Vic. lockup , no way it will accidentally dissengage if white knuckled like a conventional liner lock . That can hurt , I had it happen once .

Chris

I have really tried with it but we just don't get on.    I think it would be OK if you used only a Vic for a while and then got used to it, but switching around from regular liner locks and back to the Vic, you really notice how much of a PITA it is.

Good for the lefties though 

[furry]

I like the slide-lock release on my workchamp; it ensures my fingers are out of the way when it's dark and i'm tired!

With regards removing the serations from the GAK, is it easy to do? No power tools currently availiable; would a course file work (with care)? i used it to clip the pen blade on my handyman, which took no time at all!

Thanks for the input so far guys!

[Neil]

I wouldn't recommend using power tools anyway, as there's a good chance of getting the blade too hot and spoiling it.  Most people just use coarse sharpening stones but taking the bulk of the serrations out with a file and then putting a bevel back with stones would possibly be quicker.

[furry]

Thanks neil, i may give it a go.

Oh, what's that; is that a new trekker calling me? shh, shh... yes it is; coming baby!!

[furry]

Well, just done it and ordered a trekker  http://www.swissknifeandtool.co.uk/knives-20-30/

I'll let you know how it is when it arrives.

Thanks for all the help guys