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Dutch Army Knives 51875

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Dutch Army Knives
« on: March 18, 2010, 08:58:09 AM »
Several DAKs - Dutch Army Knives from my collection

Abbreviations:
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"KL" - "Koninklijke Landmacht" - Royal Netherlands Army (RNLA)
"KM" - "Koninklijke Marine" - Royal Netherlands Navy (the knife I'm looking for... ) :ahhh

1. Old unnumbered DAK (Amefa), the WWII issue?
2. DAK "KL61" (Amefa), the issue 1961
3. DAK "KL65" (Amefa), the issue 1965
4. Unknown issue (no stamp on the blade) - "KL" on the front scale
5. DAK "KL81" (Amefa), the issue 1981
6. DAK "KL90" (Victorinox) model of the 1983, the issue 1990
7. DAK "KL91" (Victorinox) model of the 1983, the issue 1991
8. DAK Victorinox - model of the 1993














Old unnumbered DAK (Amefa), the issue WWII?






DAK "KL65" (Amefa), the issue 1965






Unknown issue (no stamp on the blade) - "KL" on the front scale








DAK "KL81" (Amefa), the issue 1981







DAK "KL90" (Victorinox) model of the 1983, the issue 1990








DAK Victorinox - model of the 1993








DAK 2010 - Victorinox "Dual Pro"

     54836  US Model number
     0.8371.MWC Victorinox AN

(pictures from "duder"  :cheers:, published on SAKWiki.com)








« Last Edit: March 18, 2010, 11:16:57 AM by Fronta »


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2010, 10:19:53 AM »
Nice line up mate :tu:

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2010, 10:38:36 AM »
Nice collection !
I like the pictures of the new DAK, especially because they are my fotos of my knife on my jeans jacket  :D .
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2010, 10:49:30 AM »
Nice collection !
I like the pictures of the new DAK, especially because they are my fotos of my knife on my jeans jacket  :D .

Updated, mate!  :cheers:
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2010, 11:04:30 AM »
Thanks !  :cheers: (I hope it did not look like self-praise  :think:)

By the way: Yesterday I got a reply from Victorinox concerning some questions about knives for the dutch army. One of my questions was if there really were alox-knives with the letters KM on the scales. But in their listing was no such knife. Though it was not a clear answer to my question, it looks like there are no knives with the letters "KM". Also I have never seen any, just heard rumors.
Have you really seen such an alox knife ? Or do you have proof that such a knife exists ?
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2010, 11:11:19 AM »
Thanks !  :cheers: (I hope it did not look like self-praise  :think:)

By the way: Yesterday I got a reply from Victorinox concerning some questions about knives for the dutch army. One of my questions was if there really were alox-knives with the letters KM on the scales. But in their listing was no such knife. Though it was not a clear answer to my question, it looks like there are no knives with the letters "KM". Also I have never seen any, just heard rumors.
Have you really seen such an alox knife ? Or do you have proof that such a knife exists ?

I never seen the "KM" knives  :think: - what I've got - only the info from different Internet sources, that the knives exist. My guess, they could be made by Amefa.
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2010, 11:22:12 AM »
That`s possible. I have seen boxes full of old dutch alox knives on a fleamarket in Amsterdam, but none of them had "KM" on the scales (and they were all in very bad shape).
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2010, 11:30:41 AM »
That`s possible. I have seen boxes full of old dutch alox knives on a fleamarket in Amsterdam, but none of them had "KM" on the scales (and they were all in very bad shape).

Lucky you, here in Australia no much good old knives on flea-markets at all :'(, only modern junk from China...
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2010, 01:40:33 PM »
Once again, a nice grouping.

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2010, 05:53:06 PM »

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The Dual Pro X and the New DAK are the SAK's I've been wanting the most.  Nice collection Fronta.

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 06:46:46 PM »
Good collection!

Fronta, I think that 0.8371.MWC this wrong designation of the Vic DAK-2010.
This designation of the "civil" Dual-Pro (also as 54836 US Nr.), and "C" means the Scales of Grip Series.

I think the DAK-2010 should be designated approximately as 0.8371.MW4NL, by analogy with GAK 0.8461.MW4DE, but I yet have not found to it acknowledgement.
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2010, 11:56:44 AM »
How nice to see Dutch Army Knives being collected by Australians and Americans alike,  :D
On the Dutch forum we have a guy who literally owns almost all of the alox versions from every year they were ever made.
Maybe he even has extra's, i dont know.

Not only do i live in Apeldoorn, the same town the Amefa factory is situated, i also must have one of these alox knives somewhere since i served in the Dutch Army long ago. (83-84)
One of these days i will see if i can find it, but i'm actually not sure if it's an Amefa or a Victorinox.

By the way; Amefa is the abbreviation of "Apeldoornse Messen Fabriek", or "Apeldoorn Knife Factory" in English.

Greetz,

Kwakster
« Last Edit: July 23, 2010, 11:58:23 AM by kwakster »

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 12:05:53 PM »
I didn't know that.  Thanks for the education :D

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2010, 01:19:32 PM »
So when and where can we actually buy the new DAK!!! My Military 111mm collection is crying out for it :D

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2010, 11:09:05 PM »
So when and where can we actually buy the new DAK!!! My Military 111mm collection is crying out for it :D

You and me, both.  I check eBay from time to time but nothing.  If anyone has one of the new Dual Pro 111mm DAK's in new condition let me know.  Thanks


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2010, 02:58:45 AM »
Nice! I especially like the green KL  :tu:
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2010, 03:06:31 AM »
BTW - you can see pics of a KLu74 = Koninklijke Luchtmacht (Airforce) here - Bushcraft USA
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2010, 06:51:10 PM »
Where did you get that KL81? I would really like to own one myself (it's my birth year) :)
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2010, 02:00:43 AM »
Where did you get that KL81? I would really like to own one myself (it's my birth year) :)

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2010, 11:28:20 AM »
Very nice stuff  :tu:

I love the Alox especially, just because it's Alox! :D

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2010, 12:09:33 AM »
I have found this one which is not in the line up.
Victorinox with Bail instead of keyring

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2010, 08:57:27 PM »
Nice stuff.

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2010, 12:51:22 AM »
Here's my DAK, I get to keep this one, as it was a pressie :D


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2010, 08:40:48 PM »
Here is my KL-70 by Amefa. Overall it is in pretty nice shape considering the age and quality of manufacture. Real nail breakers for back springs though.

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 01:54:27 AM »
I have to add this picture of a Dutch Air Force knife. I have only seen two in the last 5 years. So keep you eyes open.
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2011, 12:00:47 PM »
Last year we disussed in this thread whether KM-stamped alox DAKs exist or not. Meanwhile I had found one. I had already posted this picture in a different thread but I think it fits in here well. After I found it I asked Victorinox again about these knives but they have absolutely no information about the KM knives. They assume that these were probably only made in 1987.
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2011, 02:29:56 PM »
The Amefa knives can be found in army surplus stores in the Netherlands. They are pretty common, but usually in pretty bad shape.
I've never seen a KLU or KM knife in real life! Those are nice, especially the KM87 :drool:
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2011, 06:18:54 AM »
I ran into this KL88 a couple of years a go in France. They put the knife on a buffer and tried to make the knife very shiny.  :o   OUCH
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2011, 08:50:28 PM »
Last year we disussed in this thread whether KM-stamped alox DAKs exist or not. Meanwhile I had found one. I had already posted this picture in a different thread but I think it fits in here well. After I found it I asked Victorinox again about these knives but they have absolutely no information about the KM knives. They assume that these were probably only made in 1987.

Duder
Are the scales date stamped at the Factory? or are they Stamped by the armoureres after issue do they say ?
Mike.
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2011, 09:16:39 PM »
Hi Mike,

I did not get this information from Victorinox, but I just took a closer look at the stamps on my DAKs. I`m very sure that the scales were stamped before the anodizing. That would mean they must be stamped before the knives were assembled. And I`m sure it would not be possible to make such big stamps on a complete knife, I guess the pressure needed would be too high.
One more thing I noticed: The letters and numbers on the KL83 to KL89 knives seem to be actually stamped into the scales but the letters and numbers on the KL90 to KL92 knives are obviously milled out of the scales.

 

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