M.T.O watch project,

[sawman]

This is a truely great thing you're doing Zed.  I hope to get in on one of your future projects.  Keep up the terrific work   

[InspectorWinter]

That really does look amazing, I'm sad I missed out on the 44mm, I love the look of that. I would even consider getting a SS bracelet for the first time in my life  ah well I'll be quicker next time.

[John]

That really does look amazing, I'm sad I missed out on the 44mm, I love the look of that. I would even consider getting a SS bracelet for the first time in my life  ah well I'll be quicker next time.

Paul did say there maybe more,depending   

[Zed]

That really does look amazing, I'm sad I missed out on the 44mm, I love the look of that. I would even consider getting a SS bracelet for the first time in my life  ah well I'll be quicker next time.

Paul did say there maybe more,depending   

yes john, officially im going to do 5 but will take orders via pm's but will depend on time etc 

[MultiMat]

lol they do look like flying saucers john without the little green man 

WTF Paul I thought you said these watches were Automatics  , how do they work if they do not have little green men in them  , . I know there is little red (Swiss  ) men in there  .

Mate they are looking VERY NICE  .

I am a bit keen too see how the laser etching comes up on those case backs  .

Mat.

BTW Paul I am really enjoying the progress shots mate 

[Zed]

lol they do look like flying saucers john without the little green man 

WTF Paul I thought you said these watches were Automatics  , how do they work if they do not have little green men in them  , . I know there is little red (Swiss  ) men in there  .

Mate they are looking VERY NICE  .

I am a bit keen too see how the laser etching comes up on those case backs  .

Mat.

BTW Paul I am really enjoying the progress shots mate 

lol yeah sorry mat these do really have little green men in them, 

iam rining a friend on wed as she works in a place where they do the laser work, i didnt know this so might be better than the other place i was going to use, i also cant wait to see the backs done, 

[ICanFixThat]

Great pictures!  These are looking better every day.  I hope my caseback wrench works on these I've never had to open a Rolex caseback before .

 

[Zed]

Great pictures!  These are looking better every day.  I hope my caseback wrench works on these I've never had to open a Rolex caseback before .

 

cheers mate,

hopefully you wont have to open it  but although i will do them up tight i learnt a trick a few years back and was told about using a big lump of sticky tack, it usually works, but i can put you onto the same kit i use and is affordable,

paul

[Zed]

ok ive got nearly 6 done now, was going to finnish #6 tonight but tired after my night shift so ill do more wed and then back into work wed night  im still waiting on 2 cases but i hope they turn up by friday , im off for 2 weeks after wed night so ill have more time by friday,

ok update on 2nd project with pics 

sub on the left, deepsea on the right, not a huge thickness difference


not a very good lume pic but was daytime in the kitchen 

and with a few friends 


and i couldnt resist taking this, Gareth sub 

[Gareth]

Those are looking AWESOME! 

 

[AHB]

Beautiful work Paul...
 I really like the one without the "magnifying" glass..   

[Zed]

Beautiful work Paul...
 I really like the one without the "magnifying" glass..   

cheers Gareth 

thanks allan, i do like the larger deepsea with no cyclops but have to say with my poor eye sight i prefer the really good magnification on that cyclops on the sub, ill be doing a little project of my own soon a milsub with no date , early 60's style with a large crown and a aged dial, ive wanted to do one for a while and seen the parts so ill be doing that soon, 

[gunga]

Me too, I much prefer without the mag glass...

[John]

The deepsea looks great Paul   

[Zed]

The deepsea looks great Paul    

   its very nice john, mine will spend the next 3 days in the fish tank   then off to the pool next week for a swim   one little touch is on the lower section of the chapter ring if you look very closely in the right light there is a certain R word going around and around   i really like this and the sub as a big fan of the comex french research divers team and love the special comex subs and see dwellers .



comex rolex
http://doubleredseadweller.com/comex%20watch.htm

[Zed]

ok off to see about the case backs this am so more news later about this, ill add more useful info about automatic watches etc here for help with any of you guys who have not had one before plus other tips  

winding.

Winding a watch by hand is OK, but not really necessary if you have an available minute or two in your busy schedule. If your watch is relatively new, with 360 degree freedom of rotation on the rotor axis, simply hold your watch face up and 'swirl' it around at 2-3 rpm, the same motion with which you would swirl brandy in a snifter (or fruit juice if you are a Mormon or Moslem or simply a teetotaler). Do this for 1-2 minutes and the watch will have a couple of hours' worth of power reserve accumulated. Then wear it and the rest of the power reserve will build up fairly quickly. A Rolex, for example, accumulates about 3 minutes' running time for every turn of the rotor. Twenty turns of the rotor give you an hour's power reserve. 60 turns, not a very demanding effort, give you 3 hours.

The above is for a 360 degree rotor. For a 'bumper' such as used in non-Rolex automatics up to the '60s, gently shake the watch side to side for a couple of minutes. You should hear and feel the bumping if the orientation of the watch is right.

you can also use the crown, just unscrew the crown and wind clockwise  

set date,
pull crown out carefully to its next setting and turn anticlockwise, tip set date day before, then click to max setting and do the time, once for have gone past 12pm it will click to the next date, then set time for the day  :tu:then screw the crown back for water resistance, it has 2 gaskets in the crown so tight enough that it wont let in water but so you can undo it again  

with all automatics i find there time is very good but improves with use, i wear a automatic every day and i never take a watch off and find the time very good with these movements,  

hope some of this helps but please ask if any more info needed  

paul  

[NutSAK]

If your watch is relatively new, with 360 degree freedom of rotation on the rotor axis, simply hold your watch face up and 'swirl' it around at 2-3 rpm, the same motion with which you would swirl brandy in a snifter (or fruit juice if you are a Mormon or Moslem or simply a teetotaler).

RPS?

[Zed]

If your watch is relatively new, with 360 degree freedom of rotation on the rotor axis, simply hold your watch face up and 'swirl' it around at 2-3 rpm, the same motion with which you would swirl brandy in a snifter (or fruit juice if you are a Mormon or Moslem or simply a teetotaler).

RPS?

yeah i think your right mate i just copied and pasted this ,

ok i got a quot sorted and taking hopefully all the case backs in tue, im having them machine engraved, well i think thats what he said as was a bit harassed today for a change, he said this would look better than the laser engraving, so hopefull pics by thursday as he will take 2 days, again sorry for time but i do have to wait on stuff and do the watches in between work and kids but i hope to get the watches out by next friday 

[Gareth]

Cheers for the advice and update mate.

[ryan1835]

Engraving sounds good, bet your glad you decided on 10 for the next run =p can't wait

[Zed]

Engraving sounds good, bet your glad you decided on 10 for the next run =p can't wait

i cant wait to see these backs done, the guy is a bit odd but he sounds like he knows his business so ill leave him to it

how does everyone feel about

                                                      M.T.O
                                                     Z.10.01
                                              me.year.number of watch,

give me some ideas, try and keep it short as poss as this guy isnt  cheap  the only thing i see is the clash with the next watch batch numbers, 

[John]

yes Paul can I suggest     

M.T.O
Z.2010 SN/01   

[John]

Engraving sounds good, bet your glad you decided on 10 for the next run =p can't wait

i cant wait to see these backs done, the guy is a bit odd but he sounds like he knows his business so ill leave him to it

how does everyone feel about

                                                      M.T.O
                                                     Z.10.01
                                              me.year.number of
give me some ideas, try and kee p it short as poss as this guy isnt  cheap  the only thing i see is the clash with the next watch batch numbers, 

Actually Paul  the year is what people go by these days,that said you could add a letter i.e M.T.O Z 2010 S,S meaning September and so on hey! Paul no one else will know but we will 

[Zed]

cheers john ill see if there is any more ideas and see what the guy says as well as i remember him saying no / as i had a few on my bit of paper  im also thinking of running the next watches from #11 and so on .

[Gareth]

I think that's pretty good mate, although I think I'd miss out the first stop.  So like this:

MT.O
Z.10.02

[Zed]

I think that's pretty good mate, although I think I'd miss out the first stop.  So like this:

MT.O
Z.10.02

yeah i think this is the way ill go as not too fussy, 



ok a little ST-16 information 

Seiko 7S26 and the Sea-Gull ST16 movement are both 21,600bph.the st-16 is a robust ETA copy movement, less fussy or decorated than a swiss ETA movement but a great 21jewel movement .i was after the reliability of a Seiko movement but with less cost , ive used and tested these movements for over 3 years now and they keep good time and reliability , i dont abuse my watches for the sake of science but i do go out on my bikes etc with no problems, for abuse i use a G-shock , the deepsea will also have a st-16 in it as well,

paul 

[Sparky415]

To save yourself a space if you substitute a letter for the year, 
2010 – A, 2011 – b


                               MT.o
                              Z.A.03

[Zed]

To save yourself a space if you substitute a letter for the year, 
2010 – A, 2011 – b


                               MT.o
                              Z.A.03

hmm nice idea and would take up less space, what about next to the A a 1 so A1 1 meaning first run   

                                  M.T.O
                                 Z.A1.04 

[Sparky415]

You could use another letter that will give you up to 26 years and 26 runs
I think manufacturing company's do something like this 

[Zed]

You could use another letter that will give you up to 26 years and 26 runs
I think manufacturing company's do something like this 

good idea tony, although i cant see me doing hundreds of runs but you never know