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Advice or comments needed about my new Surge

Offline techguynow

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Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
on: August 25, 2010, 05:48:34 AM
Hello:  I recently bought my first Leatherman Surge. I have never had a multitool before but felt this would be the right one for me. I like it very much. It has already gotten me out of a few binds this week at work and I have caught a few jealous glances from a couple of guys.  :sak: I have never had one before. What attracted me to this tool was the fact that it had scissors and the blades where interchangeable.  I am satisfied with it. Almost. What I would like to know from you guys is:

1) Should it rattle a little bit when it is fully closed?
2) Does the blade come out quicker and smoother with each use?
3) Do you ever add oil to it to make it smoother?

I would like to have you guys look at it on youtube and tell me if it should be making the noise that it does when fully closed. If it shouldn't, then should I tighten something up or is it defective? Thanks for you input in advance.




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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #1 on: August 25, 2010, 05:51:29 AM
Yep all surges rattle a bit in closed position, kinda strange consider none of the other leatherman tools rattles. I can't tell you about the blade since I don't use mine, but adding a bit of oil usually helps.


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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 05:55:25 AM
G'day & welcome mate  :D :D.

My Surge was my first Multitool as well & I am a big fan too  :tu: :tu: :tu:.

1) Yep Surge's do rattle I am afraid mate, it is hard to keep a beast quite after all  :P :D :D
2) The blades on Leatherman do 'loosen' up with use & do become less stiff to open over time.
3) It is a good idea to oil your MultiTool after cleaning , but it would not hurt to put some on now if you want. I reckon I put some oil on my Skeletool when breaking it in  :think: :think:.

Welcome too the forum too mate  :D :D

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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 06:48:11 AM
I think you questions have been answered, so I'll just say welcome to MT.O techguynow.. :tu:


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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 08:09:53 AM
As with any multitool, grab some light machine oil or something with teflon in it. Lubricate each joint area, and flex it back and forth repeatedly for a few minutes, every so often, or over the next few days. Then wipe off the excess oil.

One thing I do about the fulcrum of the pliers is find the section where the inner joint (center circle) will rotate back and forth, not the side that's fused together. Put a puddle of oil over the center joint, then while keeping the pliers horizontal, flex the pliers back and forth for several minutes.
You should notice a change in the oil, where black metal particles will float to the surface as the oil penetrates. After a few minutes you should see minute traces of oil coming out the sides of the pliers - this is a good thing.
I keep working mine in for half an hour or so, and then wipe off the excess oil every time.

Also oil the handle pivot joints for the pliers deployment, these you don't want to get sloppy on - yet are the stiffest on the Leatherman tools. Just keep some oil on there every so often and flex them back and forth when you're bored. These take a long time (days/months) to get comfortable when opening/closing.

Also lubricate the inner tool areas, flex them back and forth and get them well lubricated, then wipe them off.

Next it's to the outside blades, oil both sides of the blades, flex in and out a lot. Also find one blade is a particular stinker in that one is always stiff. Oil it, flex it back and forth.


On the scissors I think we've all noticed it's hard to get a one hand opening of the critter. I've manage two techniques: flipping up and rotating the lesser scissor lever over, or my favorite is to move the lesser scissor blade over a tad and move the main scissor lever over and it snap into place.


The handle slap is cause of the weight of the handles, all them tools in there, and having the largest blades. Have considered trying to find a micro thin layer of silicone and adhering it to the inside of mine. The Wave will do it too if you just happen the flex the handles on the ends - just the wave is 4.5 ounces lighter too.
The MUT had the same issue, but the developers are using a small locking lever that keeps the handles from slapping one another.

There's a Discussion area from the main developer of the MUT over here on the  Leatherman USA Facebook site.


Myself, I have oiled the entire surface of the black oxide version I have. Did not read whether or not yours was stainless or BO. On a limited internet connection so cannot watch videos of everyone's tools, sorry.


I'd also suggest getting the Large Premium Sheath. Find a small mechanical pencil's clip, attach it to the Bit Extender, and clip that into one of the side pockets. Then you can get a small flashlight like a Leatherman Serac S2, invert the clip so you can attach it to the bill of a cap, then clip it into the other side pouch.
This way you'll have an extra reach for with the bit extender, and a flashlight with you for EDC.



Wished there was a small magnet one could purchase, to slip inside the bit extender though. Oh, and does anyoen have a way of making black oxide bit extenders, or know a method of making one blackened? Am even considering getting a bluing kit!  :twak: Just seems silly to spend $30 to make a BO Bit Extender.
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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 01:08:11 PM
Ive had a bunch of surges. Sometimes the main blade pivot will turn with the blade and let the blade ride over against the inside of the handle. That will make it harder to open. I havent had that problem on my waves as often as the surges.


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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 01:36:49 PM
Oh, for the very short lanyard ring; found by poking a small screwdriver through the channel that one can push the stubby lanyard ring out the end of handle. It has to be the shortest lanyard ring on any of the Leatherman tools - and I wonder why it's so short?

« Last Edit: August 25, 2010, 01:39:07 PM by Xelkos »
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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 01:40:51 PM
Being a LM virgin I can't awnser... But I can say WELCOME TO THE MTO THE RIGHT PLACE FOR SUCH A QUESTIONS, AND A LOT MORE

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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 05:16:50 AM
Hello: jzmtl, multimat, AHB, Xelkos, jim guy & edcgear:  Thank you for the welcome and the great advice.  Xelkos, I will do the oil part the way you say. I dont mind it rattling at all. I just wanted to be sure I didnt have a defective one.  I find the tool great for my needs. I spent the day opening and closing the blade and it has gotten easier to open.  I am hoping to engrave it in a day or two as well.  I will also like to buy a bit kit for it on ebay I guess.  I am hooked and can understand now why people are fans of it!


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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 05:30:16 AM
i've gone thru 4 surges and 2 rattled while 2 didn't so it's hit or miss with that. Seems like the later date codes didn't rattle.

I gave away 3 of them to family ...kept one for myself. :D


congrats on a top notch tool. :cheers:
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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #10 on: August 26, 2010, 06:24:52 AM
Official Leatherman Accessories, FYI. Maybe the forum's owners sells Leatherman parts too.

Don't forget to register your Leatherman, not that the warranty needs it. You could win a prize package.  :D

Oh, and if you have a Facebook account, or have a safe email to use for it, create a Facebook account and like the Leatherman USA facebook page.
Seem just about every week this facebook site is having a contest to give away another tool. Today's was (2) Selways.


Hope that's within the forum rules and stuff. Never know exactly what you'll get off of eBay.
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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #11 on: August 28, 2010, 02:36:38 PM
The Surge is a fine tool . I just don't have the testosterone levels to pack such a big iron !

Enjoy !

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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #12 on: August 28, 2010, 03:30:02 PM
Welcome and congrats on your first multitool  :salute:
The Surge is indeed a real powerhouse, a tool you don't mess with


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Re: Advice or comments needed about my new Surge
Reply #13 on: August 29, 2010, 03:49:03 AM
Welcome tech guy and very wise choice on your first multitool.  It's good for whatever task you throw it at and if anything does go wrong with it, LM will take care of you  :tu:

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