I'm mad at my KF4

GraysonK · **on:** April 24, 2011, 08:10:35 PM

It not only bit me!

But the small screwdriver I was using on it to do some maintenance on Revi (my beloved bicycle for those of you who don't know

) and the smurfing thing kept folding up...I wasn't using a lot of torque either! Because of this, not only did it bite me, but it kept slipping up resulting in a rather colorful collection of blood blisters and scrapes on my hands...and...now it's all scratch up and dented!!

kirk13 · **Reply #1 on:** April 24, 2011, 08:20:40 PM

Dare I say thats a bad work person who blames thier....naaaa, been there too often to say it

edcgear · **Reply #2 on:** April 24, 2011, 08:20:57 PM

That's exactly why I have second thaughts on MT's without locking tools....

GraysonK · **Reply #3 on:** April 24, 2011, 08:26:05 PM

Quote from: kirk13 on April 24, 2011, 08:20:40 PM

Dare I say thats a bad work person who blames thier....naaaa, been there too often to say it

If I had been using it for an unintended use, I'd agree with you that it was an operator problem

But I wasn't...grrrrr

Chako · **Reply #4 on:** April 24, 2011, 08:33:49 PM

Locking tools are the only way to go most of the time.

Sorry to hear your KF4 abused you in such fashion.

GraysonK · **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2011, 08:41:01 PM

Quote from: Chako on April 24, 2011, 08:33:49 PM

Locking tools are the only way to go most of the time.

Sorry to hear your KF4 abused you in such fashion.

So am I...And after the care and love I give to it...sigh...kids!

Zed · **Reply #6 on:** April 24, 2011, 09:14:24 PM

thats naughty of it poor revi, dont worry mines called gloria

i never named my new MTB guess i will soon, gloria has evolved over the years so needed a name,

Gareth · **Reply #7 on:** April 24, 2011, 09:28:29 PM

Those Juice drivers are sharp little swine aren't they. $:-\$

GraysonK · **Reply #8 on:** April 24, 2011, 10:18:15 PM

Quote from: Zed on April 24, 2011, 09:14:24 PM

thats naughty of it poor revi, dont worry mines called gloria i never named my new MTB guess i will soon, gloria has evolved over the years so needed a name,

LOL! My MTB is named Cappy (aka Captain Kathryn Janeway

)

Quote from: Gareth on April 24, 2011, 09:28:29 PM

Those Juice drivers are sharp little swine aren't they. $:-\$

Yes they are! Whew! My poor fingers and hands. And FYI: blood blisters hurt!!

CENTURION · **Reply #9 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:04:48 AM

Quote from: GraysonK on April 24, 2011, 10:18:15 PM

LOL! My MTB is named Cappy (aka Captain Kathryn Janeway )

Janeway eh? Has it killed thousands of people, stranded a hundred far from home and violated the prime directive?
[/trekkie]

GraysonK · **Reply #10 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:32:36 AM

Quote from: CENTURION on April 25, 2011, 01:04:48 AM

Quote from: GraysonK on April 24, 2011, 10:18:15 PM
LOL! My MTB is named Cappy (aka Captain Kathryn Janeway )
Janeway eh? Has it killed thousands of people, stranded a hundred far from home and violated the prime directive?
[/trekkie]

LOL! Not yet! But she's red and scrappy and has an affinity for borgs.

ducktapehero · **Reply #11 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:39:59 AM

I'm sorry that it bit ya. That's why Vic drivers are smooth.

Dtrain · **Reply #12 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:51:56 AM

Quote from: ducktapehero on April 25, 2011, 01:39:59 AM

I'm sorry that it bit ya. That's why Vic drivers are smooth.

Yeppers...Kinda why after 6 years I really dig my swisstool over Leatherman..Of course eventually evryone will realize "Resistance is Futile" LOL..Sorry I love Star Trek!

Zed · **Reply #13 on:** April 25, 2011, 02:05:35 PM

Quote from: GraysonK on April 24, 2011, 10:18:15 PM

Quote from: Zed on April 24, 2011, 09:14:24 PM
thats naughty of it poor revi, dont worry mines called gloria i never named my new MTB guess i will soon, gloria has evolved over the years so needed a name,
LOL! My MTB is named Cappy (aka Captain Kathryn Janeway )

well this is gloria and we have bonnded over a nearly 3 years now, she has evolved,, although still cant decide on paint colour, possibly baby blue as a old SE racing colour i like,

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and although had him for over a year now im still not got a name, changed a lot of parts so far but still needs to evolve name suggestions i like the name frank as frankly ive no clue
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Mr. Whippy · **Reply #14 on:** April 25, 2011, 02:20:16 PM

Quote from: Gareth on April 24, 2011, 09:28:29 PM

Those Juice drivers are sharp little swine aren't they. $:-\$

This is my biggest complaint with Juices. The flat drivers are just treacherous. Even worse if you use the tool a lot and the pivots start to become stiffer.

Generally I have a SAK along for flat driver duty, and avoid the Juice flat drivers completely. That said, the diamond coat file on the Kf4 is just

Mercury · **Reply #15 on:** April 26, 2011, 06:54:02 AM

Quote from: Mr. Whippy on April 25, 2011, 02:20:16 PM

Quote from: Gareth on April 24, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Those Juice drivers are sharp little swine aren't they. $:-\$

This is my biggest complaint with Juices. The flat drivers are just treacherous. Even worse if you use the tool a lot and the pivots start to become stiffer.

Generally I have a SAK along for flat driver duty, and avoid the Juice flat drivers completely. That said, the diamond coat file on the Kf4 is just

That diamond coat file is tops, I agree. The one on my pulse is still one of my most used tools, even when the pulse is in the bag and not on the belt.

Cyclone82 · **Reply #16 on:** April 26, 2011, 09:05:05 AM

Ok i better ask this, What exactly is a diamond coat file? Is it just the diamond pattern or is the actual surface coated with a thin layer of diamonds

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #17 on:** April 26, 2011, 11:59:58 AM

Quote from: Cyclone82 on April 26, 2011, 09:05:05 AM

Ok i better ask this, What exactly is a diamond coat file? Is it just the diamond pattern or is the actual surface coated with a thin layer of diamonds

The latter. a coating of industrial diamond chips, sized for the coarseness desired. It's an awesome file (but you do need to use it properly or you'll strip off all the diamond coating)

Mercury · **Reply #18 on:** April 26, 2011, 12:58:26 PM

Quote from: Mr. Whippy on April 26, 2011, 11:59:58 AM

Quote from: Cyclone82 on April 26, 2011, 09:05:05 AM
Ok i better ask this, What exactly is a diamond coat file? Is it just the diamond pattern or is the actual surface coated with a thin layer of diamonds

The latter. a coating of industrial diamond chips, sized for the coarseness desired. It's an awesome file (but you do need to use it properly or you'll strip off all the diamond coating)

And then you better buy some stock in Mr Whippy!

Ashley · **Reply #19 on:** April 26, 2011, 10:41:08 PM

I stay far away from the flats on my s2. Everytime I try to even open them I get abused. I've carried so much for it and it shows little love it return. Must be going through its teenage years.

sorry to hear that Kelly.

chris777 · **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2011, 06:40:25 AM

Quote from: edcgear on April 24, 2011, 08:20:57 PM

That's exactly why I have second thaughts on MT's without locking tools....

ME too I got bit a couple of weeks back myself from my kicks phillips folding on me while trying to loosen a strippped screw.

Got me to totally change my view on locking tools.

And the flats were what got me to stop carrying my kf4.

that and the stumpy phillips, but I though they are so thin ans sharp, what use is it to carry them. Thats when I decided to try a skeletool only I cant seem to score one at a decent price, so I upsized when I got a new wave w/ pocket clip the other thing the juice is missing.

I really hope these new clipped models take off so big that lm adds clips to all their tools.

ironraven · **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2011, 01:20:28 AM

That is a small screwdriver?

I thought it was combo chisel/awl tool!

I've cut myself on the one in my Juice several times...

jekostas · **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2011, 02:21:45 AM

You're right, them KF4s are just terrible. You can send 'em to me for safe-keeping.

NeitherExtreme · **Reply #23 on:** April 30, 2011, 08:43:28 PM

Quote from: jekostas on April 28, 2011, 02:21:45 AM

You're right, them KF4s are just terrible. You can send 'em to me for safe-keeping.

That's what I was thinking.

But more importantly, I have to say this whole thread is pure blasphemy.

MultiMat · **Reply #24 on:** May 01, 2011, 05:53:12 AM

Quote from: NeitherExtreme on April 30, 2011, 08:43:28 PM

Quote from: jekostas on April 28, 2011, 02:21:45 AM
You're right, them KF4s are just terrible. You can send 'em to me for safe-keeping.
That's what I was thinking.

But more importantly, I have to say this whole thread is pure blasphemy.

Should I lock the thread down Luke

Cyclone82 · **Reply #25 on:** May 01, 2011, 02:06:49 PM

Does the KF4 have the hard wire notch? If all things have gone well, i may have 4 x new KF4's comming. Dont want to get too excited yet though.

GraysonK · **Reply #26 on:** May 01, 2011, 02:41:21 PM

I am no longer mad at my KF4. It's still an awesome little tool...the serrated blade is my favorite tool on it and while the drivers are sharp at all get out, they are very very effective. I just wish they were a little tighter or locked so they wouldn't fold up like that. My poor little tool got scratch up a bit, but it's got character now.

It was a bloody battle with the bike, but we won so it's all good.

turnsouth · **Reply #27 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:24:25 PM

Quote from: Mr. Whippy on April 26, 2011, 11:59:58 AM

...It's an awesome file (but you do need to use it properly or you'll strip off all the diamond coating)

Yes, yes. Light pressure, let the diamond chips do the work.

Although, if one tries to file a diamond, the diamond always wins...

turnsouth · **Reply #28 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:32:33 PM

Quote from: GraysonK on May 01, 2011, 02:41:21 PM

...My poor little tool got scratch up a bit, but it's got character now. ...

For me this is the crossover point where I worry less about being careful for the tool, and start thinking more about using the tool to get the work done.

It's nice when circumstances out of my control do a really good job of stifling my "pretty tool" OCD...

jekostas · **Reply #29 on:** May 01, 2011, 08:46:00 PM

Kf4 is a great tool, you just have to understand the limitations of the drivers. I'll be honest and say I rarely use them on mine since they're so short but they're okay in a pinch. I do regularly use both blades, the awl and the diamond file, though.

In fact, after driving halfway around town looking for someone to sharpen my Micra I broke down and used the diamond file to do it. Worked like a charm.

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