Why no original Supertool?

Benner · **on:** November 27, 2007, 04:07:35 PM

Can someone please explain why it is that Leatherman don't list the original Supertool in their retired tools section?

Benner

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #1 on:** November 27, 2007, 04:45:10 PM

My guess is that if it isn't there, then it was probably just an oversight. I'll let my contact at Leatherman know about it. With as many discontinued models as Leatherman has, it's always possble one gets left behind here and there.

Def

Benner · **Reply #2 on:** November 27, 2007, 04:55:51 PM

You are probably right.

I would have thought it would have been top of the list. Especially as it was the first one they discontinued (I think

)

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #3 on:** November 27, 2007, 05:02:25 PM

My contact at Leatherman says it's your fault and she didn't post it because of something mean you said once. Apparently you really hurt her feelings and she won't put the SuperTool in that section because she knows you were looking for it.

Thanks a lot Benner. You ruined it for all of us.

Def

Roadie · **Reply #4 on:** November 27, 2007, 05:04:08 PM

Way to go Benner! Now we'll never find out any info on that tool!

Benner · **Reply #5 on:** November 27, 2007, 05:06:27 PM

Sorry all.

My bad!

I guess I will just have to do a huge review on mine when I get it then to make up for it!

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #6 on:** November 27, 2007, 07:28:07 PM

Well Benner......you've managed to set back the Anglo-American alliance by about 4 decades

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2007, 07:30:30 PM

Seriously, I just heard back from my contact at Leatherman and it was an oversight and she'll get it looked after.

Benner, you're off the hook... this time!

Def

Benner · **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2007, 07:32:00 PM

Quote from: Defender on November 27, 2007, 07:30:30 PM

Seriously, I just heard back from my contact at Leatherman and it was an oversight and she'll get it looked after.

Benner, you're off the hook... this time!

Def

She only said that because I begged for forgiveness.

Benner · **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2008, 09:26:36 PM

Looks like they never got round to this.

Poncho65 · **Reply #10 on:** April 11, 2008, 12:28:41 AM

I was actually wondering same thing myself Benner. I just never thought to ask here. I am glad you asked because the ST was first big LM wasn't it? I just thought it was to similar to ST 200 to put. But they even put old style Wave when they still make Wave. Only seems fair to pay omage to the ST.

Benner · **Reply #11 on:** April 11, 2008, 12:30:43 AM

Quote from: Poncho65 on April 11, 2008, 12:28:41 AM

I was actually wondering same thing myself Benner. I just never thought to ask here. I am glad you asked because the ST was first big LM wasn't it? I just thought it was to similar to ST 200 to put. But they even put old style Wave when they still make Wave. Only seems fair to pay omage to the ST.

Well thay have every other variety there, and they list the PST and the PST II so I see no reason why not.

And yes it was the first large Leatherman.

Poncho65 · **Reply #12 on:** April 11, 2008, 12:51:41 AM

I'd also like some more info on all of the retired models like when that started making them and when they retired them. Also if older model has newer tool modeled after it ex. ST200 and Core any kind of history would be appreciated on there site. This is a good thread

Benner · **Reply #13 on:** April 11, 2008, 12:56:03 AM

Sounds like you need the Wiki.

Here's the timeline that is on there. https://wiki.multitool.org/tiki-index.php?page=Multitool+Timeline

Poncho65 · **Reply #14 on:** April 11, 2008, 01:05:53 AM

Thanks that helps alot I always like timelines of different things kinda puts things into perspective and show evolution of the tools

Benner · **Reply #15 on:** April 11, 2008, 01:07:39 AM

I also wrote this a while ago http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,2864.0.html

Poncho65 · **Reply #16 on:** April 11, 2008, 01:17:51 AM

Yeah your timeline has beginning and ending of the tools thanks

Benner · **Reply #17 on:** April 11, 2008, 01:20:16 AM

Quote from: Poncho65 on April 11, 2008, 01:17:51 AM

Yeah your timeline has beginning and ending of the tools thanks

Yeah I sourced all the info from other threads and put it all together. It's interesting to see how some of the tools overlap.

Poncho65 · **Reply #18 on:** April 11, 2008, 01:35:38 AM

I agree you can also see the slow evolution from the original PST

down thru to the newer tools

J-sews · **Reply #19 on:** April 11, 2008, 02:07:12 AM

Quote from: Benner on November 23, 2007, 09:00:31 PM

I found this info posted in another topic, so I have made it into one chart. (Which has probably been done elsewhere but I couldn't find it). Please post if anything is not correct and I will change it.

PST - 1983-2004
MiniTool - 1986-2004
Original Supertool - 1994-2001
PST II - 1996-2004
Micra - 1996-Present
Original Wave - 1998-2004
Sideclip - 1998-2004
Flair - 1999-2004
Crunch - 1999-Present
Pulse - 2000-2004
Supertool 200 - 2001-2005
Juice Kf4 - 2001-2005
Juice C2 - 2001-Present
Juice S2 - 2001-Present
Juice Cs4 - 2001-Present
Juice Xe6 - 2001-Present
Juice Pro - 2002-2003
Squirt P4 - 2002-Present
Squirt S4 - 2002-Present
Juice SC2 - 2003-Present
Squirt E4 - 2003-Present
New Wave - 2004-Present
Charge Ti & Xti - 2004-Present
Kick - 2004-Present
Fuse(knife) - 2004-Present
Blast - 2004-Present
Core - 2005-Present
Surge - 2005-Present
Fuse(File) - 2006-Present
Charge AL, ALX & TTi - 2007-Present

I'd forgotten about that chart you did Ben. Nice job! (although it looks like it could stand a bit of updating)

Benner · **Reply #20 on:** April 11, 2008, 12:04:08 PM

Yeah it does. I'll see what I can do.

Smitty44 · **Reply #21 on:** April 12, 2008, 07:24:49 AM

Thanks for the time lines Benner,very interesting.

Benner · **Reply #22 on:** April 12, 2008, 09:55:25 AM

Just used the Wiki to update the chart;

PST - 1983-2004
MiniTool - 1986-2004
Original Supertool - 1994-2001
PST II - 1996-2004
Micra - 1996-Present
Original Wave - 1998-2004
Sideclip - 1998-2004
Flair - 1999-2004
Crunch - 1999-Present
Pulse - 2000-2004
Supertool 200 - 2001-2005
Juice Kf4 - 2001-2005
Juice C2 - 2001-Present
Juice S2 - 2001-Present
Juice Cs4 - 2001-Present
Juice Xe6 - 2001-Present
Juice Pro - 2002-2003
Squirt P4 - 2002-Present
Squirt S4 - 2002-Present
Juice SC2 - 2003-Present
Squirt E4 - 2003-Present
New Wave - 2004-Present
Charge Ti & Xti - 2004-Present
Kick - 2004-Present
Fuse(knife) - 2004-Present
Blast - 2004-Present
Core - 2005-Present
Surge - 2005-Present
Fuse(File) - 2006-Present
Hybrid - 2006-Present
Vista - 2006-Present
Charge AL, ALX & TTi - 2007-Present
Leatherman Skeletool & CX - 2007-Present
Leatherman Genus - 2007-Present

There are also a couple of anniversary tools, but I left them off so it is clear to see when the main production dates of each tool were.

Dunc · **Reply #23 on:** April 12, 2008, 10:00:08 AM

Nice one Ben thats very helpfull

Dunc

Poncho65 · **Reply #24 on:** April 15, 2008, 02:14:20 AM

I still don't think Leatherman.com has put the original Supertool on retired tools page. been thinkin about that that is sorta of a shame that it was left off, it was like the first BIG BOY mt it shouldn't have been overlooked.

Benner · **Reply #25 on:** April 15, 2008, 05:25:06 PM

It does seem odd. $:-\$

J-sews · **Reply #26 on:** April 16, 2008, 02:05:06 AM

Hmmmm, good question. I'll send off an email to Leatherman and see if we get a reply. Stay tuned.......

Poncho65 · **Reply #27 on:** April 16, 2008, 04:08:31 AM

Not to be complaining or anything

but I was thinking when I looked at the retired tools they even list the Flair

I meen come on how could they have remembered this boo boo and forgot the ST

Roadie · **Reply #28 on:** April 16, 2008, 09:58:02 AM

Quote from: Poncho65 on April 16, 2008, 04:08:31 AM

Not to be complaining or anything but I was thinking when I looked at the retired tools they even list the Flair I meen come on how could they have remembered this boo boo and forgot the ST

Maybe its so that every time they look at the site they think "Now that is something we have to avoid reproducing" and is a constant reminder of how not to do it!

Dtrain · **Reply #29 on:** April 16, 2008, 03:01:14 PM

The SuperTool was Leatherman's first large tool.In my opinion it was and still is one of their best
"Hard Use" tools.If mine had a pair of scissors instead of the serrated blade I would have probably never went on a quest for a "Better" tool.

Dtrain

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