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Original supertool owners club 33757

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2014, 07:13:12 AM »
I'll be in shortly, just need to find it. :facepalm:
I'll say this, the original ST is to me what a multitool should be.
Big, Heavy, a little crude, but almost bullet proof.
Mine was purchased used (very  :D ), love it's floppy action.

Dare I say... Almost A Real Tool!!

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2014, 09:00:20 PM »
The Original Supertool is the best.
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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2014, 10:01:53 AM »
I have one :)


And, also, a question...


Did the original Supertool ever change to 'Pivot out' screwdrivers, like the PST?

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2014, 10:49:07 AM »
Didn't need to change to pivot out as the lock stops them folding in.
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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2014, 11:15:42 AM »
Didn't need to change to pivot out as the lock stops them folding in.


I understand that, just was wondering... After all, the Pulse has the pivot out ones as well, and is locked too.

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2014, 11:28:44 AM »
Didn't need to change to pivot out as the lock stops them folding in.


I understand that, just was wondering... After all, the Pulse has the pivot out ones as well, and is locked too.

My guess is that with the Pulse they just wanted to save on machining new parts and so used as many from the late model PST/PST II as they could.  AFAIK the Supertool never changed tools, in fact the later Supertool 200 still used the 'pivot in' tools.

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #56 on: April 03, 2014, 12:42:52 PM »
Didn't need to change to pivot out as the lock stops them folding in.


I understand that, just was wondering... After all, the Pulse has the pivot out ones as well, and is locked too.

My guess is that with the Pulse they just wanted to save on machining new parts and so used as many from the late model PST/PST II as they could.  AFAIK the Supertool never changed tools, in fact the later Supertool 200 still used the 'pivot in' tools.


 :tu:


That makes sense :P

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #57 on: April 03, 2014, 04:40:07 PM »
Does anyone know why lm changed the locking meachnism for the supertool 200?
The problem that all tools can be locked open and a screwdriver is needed for closure could have been circumvented by integrating a non-locking tool which just lifts the hook.
Afterall i do not think that this problem should arise all too often. What do you think?

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2014, 02:15:23 PM »
Does anyone know why lm changed the locking meachnism for the supertool 200?
The problem that all tools can be locked open and a screwdriver is needed for closure could have been circumvented by integrating a non-locking tool which just lifts the hook.
Afterall i do not think that this problem should arise all too often. What do you think?

Leatherman came out with the Pulse and saw that they could use the same unlocking design when they wanted to improve on the Original Super Tool in which the ST200 came out after.

Complete lockout of the tools must have happened enough to owners/users of the Original ST for Leatherman to change the design when making the ST200 to prevent it.

Prior to reading and joining this forum, I had never known about the possibility of locking out the tools on the Original Super Tool. I had only owned a ST200 and never knew anyone that had the Original ST or handled one before.
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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2014, 06:25:23 PM »
I've always kind of liked the lock on the original Supertool. Because it is simple. About the only thing that can go wrong is a tool lock out which is a inconvenience but not a teotwawki moment.

What? Enablers! Are you serrrrious? Where? I dont see any.

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Wielder of the Bow of Banishment. Admin Team Point Of No Return Posts: 30,873 El Presidente del Fan Club Micky D
Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2014, 06:26:47 PM »
I've never been convinced that the change was made to prevent all the blade from getting stuck open all the time.  No, I think it was simply that they'd come up with a lock system that didn't rely on having to fish out another tool. 

Personally I never had an issue with the original method, but I can see why a designer, with the option of using a dedicated lock release, would go for it.

I believe Bob has a prototype/in-house design that has the ST200 rolled edges, but without any roll-locks.  A sort of half way between an original and a 200. 8)

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #61 on: April 05, 2014, 11:39:43 PM »
I've never been convinced that the change was made to prevent all the blade from getting stuck open all the time.  No, I think it was simply that they'd come up with a lock system that didn't rely on having to fish out another tool. 
Personally I never had an issue with the original method, but I can see why a designer, with the option of using a dedicated lock release, would go for it.
I believe Bob has a prototype/in-house design that has the ST200 rolled edges, but without any roll-locks.  A sort of half way between an original and a 200. 8)


Agreed on both points. I seem to remember that ST200 of Bobs but cant remember were the pic of it is. 

What? Enablers! Are you serrrrious? Where? I dont see any.

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #62 on: April 05, 2014, 11:49:04 PM »
Can't find the pics either. :shrug:

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #63 on: April 06, 2014, 12:06:11 PM »
When i first got my Supertool it took me effectively only 5 minutes to get all tools stuck open  :-[

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #64 on: April 06, 2014, 12:45:35 PM »
These answers ae about what i expected: Stuck tools is not really a problem and the change has only been made to have an obvious selling point over the old tool.

I would really love to see a modern KISS tool from leatherman.

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #65 on: April 06, 2014, 06:55:06 PM »
When i first got my Supertool it took me effectively only 5 minutes to get all tools stuck open  :-[

Wow, that must be the world record!    :D


These answers ae about what i expected: Stuck tools is not really a problem and the change has only been made to have an obvious selling point over the old tool.

I would really love to see a modern KISS tool from leatherman.

Me to.

What? Enablers! Are you serrrrious? Where? I dont see any.

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2014, 09:26:58 PM »
Wooooo!  Another club I can join :D  Count me in with my basically new and unused Supertool.  Quite a deal I think, and it looks like it's not been used as the seller claimed, which is awesome :tu:  I'll post pics tonight.

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2014, 09:34:00 PM »
When i first got my Supertool it took me effectively only 5 minutes to get all tools stuck open  :-[



hahaha.... I can just see you getting all the tools stuck open on one side and you look at the other set of tools and go. "hmmm.. lets see if this side is the same." Fast forward 4 more minutes and your sitting there with all the tools deployed and stuck open.  :rofl:

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2014, 02:47:46 AM »
Here are the pics of my Supertool:




K-Tibbs
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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2014, 02:00:33 AM »
Nice looking Supertool. What is the date codes on it?

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What? Enablers! Are you serrrrious? Where? I dont see any.

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2014, 04:01:07 AM »
Nice looking Supertool. What is the date codes on it?

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Thanks David :salute:  Sorry, I meant to include the dates:  0897 and 0997

K-Tibbs
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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #71 on: April 20, 2014, 11:26:35 AM »
Who has the earliest dates, I have one with 08/94 on both handles.
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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #72 on: April 20, 2014, 05:43:37 PM »
I have a 0894 both handles. These are the earliest I now of. I have a 0295 0395 ST that came in a 94 dated box and the paperwork is dated 0794.

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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #73 on: April 20, 2014, 08:01:14 PM »
The Original SuperTool was my first multitool and I still rate it as the best...I've seen a few of the others but didn't like them, wouldn't mind having a look at a Rebar  ;)


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Re: Original supertool owners club
« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2014, 09:29:47 PM »
Here are the pics of my Supertool:





That sure is one nice looking Supertool you have there, looks brand-new, welcome to the club my friend :tu:.

The original Supertool was my very first real multitool (only owned a couple of cheap SAK knock-off's before my ST), and it's still one of my favorites.

It reminds me of the good old days when tools were flawless, simple in design, but produced without any shortcomings.  Nowadays there always seems to be something rubbing against something that it should'nt be rubbing against, something with too much play, the same ruler on both sides ...  ::)

Just checked the date codes and mine is dated 1094  8).

By the way, thanks for making me take my old trusty friend out of its storage box again, last time I held him in my hands was when I was taking pics of my Supertool collection.

Just noticed that I forgot about my BO ST300 when I was taking these pics ... shame on me  :twak:.


 

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