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2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)

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It's started off great already!

One of the best parts of living in a college town is the Winter Break. Half the town population (students) leaves for 3 weeks and the town is pretty barren during that time. It makes for nice walks and wonderful afternoon drives, checking out the foliage and generally enjoying the emptiness of the town. I was having one such drive today when I decided to swing by my favorite PawnBrokers to see if I could score some new tools for 2008. They were fairly busy when I entered the store, eating a delicious smelling lunch from Applebee's and chatting it up with long-time customers.

I made a beeline for the display cases at the back of the store and was somewhat disappointed by the selection. Two rows of brand-new Gerber sheaths sat under the glass. Too thick to be the Multi-Plier series and priced to low to be anything interesting (24.95$) I figured the were probably new Suspension tools. Figuring I may as well take a look at the tool, being that I have read a few reviews on it but have yet to hold one I waved over a clerk. After offering me a few smoked almonds he opened the case and pulled out several different sheaths. I poked around with the Suspension, making a mental note to buy one if I could find it for @15$ somewhere else and then opened the other sheaths. Suprise! A battered red Buck sheath held a Gerber MPT in fair condition, the pulse quickens.



The next sheath, a dusty Gerber brand, held a Coleman Pro-Lock. A smile blooms on my face. I check the prices, 19.95$ for both. Hmm, a little high, I think. I scoot the two sheaths off to the side and check the last sheath on the counter. It holds a fairly beat down Gerber Urban Legend. Much smaller than I expected I like it and make another mental note, it's too high-priced here (39.95$) but I've seen some good deals for this tool on eBay. I push everything but the MPT and Pro-Lock back towards the clerk and tell him I'll take both. He checks the prices and smiles, "I'm sure I can give you a deal for both those." We move over to the register and he does some quick math on the calculator before announcing that he can let both go for 30$ even.



I do a little victory dance in my head and quickly pay for the tools, anxious to speed home and explore my treasure.

First up, the MPT. A little history of this tool, courtesy of J-Sews, can be found on these forums. Short version; this tool was designed and made for a military contract Gerber earned, somewhat of an embarassment for Leatherman since this tool Out-PSTed the PST for the contract.






The tool features a pretty typical tool arrangement. Files, drivers and a knife blade, as well as a very interesting awl adorn the tool. This tool is also one of the few Gerber tools with a metal saw ground into the file. The drivers are extremely short, odd considering there is almost enough extra room to double their length. This tool is considerably longer than the PST and slightly thicker but is still significantly thinner than modern tools.






The tools are typical Gerber quality, fit an finish are good and typical of that era the inner tools are accessed by pulling out one of the long tools and then selecting a shorter tool from the clump that folds out.



The pliers are some of the widest opening I have ever seen and feature a smallish wirecutters.



The handles have a bit of wobble when closed and don't line up exactly together when closed, as I understand it this is a function of the tool design and was typical of all examples.




Although the handles feature raised areas designed for comfort when using the pliers the opposite effect occurs. There are numerous hotspots caused by the combination of the circlular reliefs and the rolled edges, causing these handles to be the most uncomfortable I have ever used. The tool is held together with hex bolts, making disassembly and mods an easy task, should one desire.

Another area of interest is the open and closing mechanism for the pliers. Using a speed-bump variation of the butterfly friction ramps this tool is significantly more difficult to open and close than other tools. One has to defeat the impressive pressure of the speed-bumps when opening and closing, it's not a smooth system but is functional and a noteable variation of the most common feature found on folding tools.




I plan to EDC this tool for a little bit, it's always nice to step back in time to try a different design. It really makes one appreciate just how good modern tools are and how they got to be that way.

Next up, the Pro-Lock.




I am really excited about this tool. It's one of those tools that I wouldn't ever really hunt down but still would like to own for the sheer novetly of it's interchangeable cartridges.







The tool features two different philips drivers and two different knife blades as well as a big-toothed woodsaw, file and flathead drivers. The tools are arranged in sections that are removed by a neat little system.

Press this little tab her upwards:


Pop out the top of the cartridge:


And you have a replaceable section; or, if you wanted to get really froggy, you now have a very small stand-alone tool section.



It's a shame coleman never released any other cartridges, this form factor is ripe with potential.




The tool is very comfortable to hold in the hand. The handles are smooth and fat at the bottom, allowing a good grip on smaller items but making the gripping of larger items more difficult for those with smaller hands.

So, not a bad day after all! Two of the rarer tools added to my collection in good condition for a good price.

P.S. I love winter, here's the obligatory pocket dump when I got home. Nothing like toting around 3 multis, various knives, flashlights and other junk.


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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #1 on: January 05, 2008, 09:24:52 PM
Excellent score!! I really have never seen the gerber before and as the owner of a powerlock I can say ya really got to own one to appreciate it. But hey that what makes us come here. to see the cool swag!
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #2 on: January 05, 2008, 09:25:45 PM
Great score that Spoon! :)
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #3 on: January 05, 2008, 09:45:38 PM
Great snags!  I need to start checking out some of the pawn shops etc for hidden treasures like that...

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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #4 on: January 05, 2008, 09:48:27 PM

First up, the MPT. A little history of this tool, courtesy of J-Sews, can be found on these forums. Short version; this tool was designed and made for a military contract Gerber earned, somewhat of an embarassment for Leatherman since this tool Out-PSTed the PST for the contract

The handles have a bit of wobble when closed and don't line up exactly together when closed, as I understand it this is a function of the tool design and was typical of all examples.

Now you need to seek out the block oxide variation .


It's a shame coleman never released any other cartridges, this form factor is ripe with potential.


The reason for the discontinuation of the Pro lock was I seem to remember a lawsuit involving Leatherman , something silly such as the plier head being too close of a copy of leathermans . Yes it is a shame that there were not more of the cartridge pods .

Black oxide is now on my list, I actually really like this tool. Something about the implement selection just gets me, that awl is cool.

Ah, interesting. A shame that litigation should kill something that could evolve so much. It's sort of an odd system that doesn't really need to exist but could be made into something very specialized for the user.


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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #5 on: January 05, 2008, 09:49:56 PM
Great snags!  I need to start checking out some of the pawn shops etc for hidden treasures like that...

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Funnily enough I spent all day last week checking about a dozen different Pawn Shops in the Atlanta area for multis and came up completely empty but this one store down here in Alabama seems to have a good variety that turns over quite a bit. I was just in there a month or so ago and everything was all new this time.


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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #6 on: January 05, 2008, 10:28:09 PM
Great (odd) scores!  Sounds like a nice shop you got them at also, I love those kind of places where the prices are "fluid" :D.
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #7 on: January 05, 2008, 11:28:47 PM
Huh, I've been having odd visions of the MPT lately. I have to keep checking my sheath to make sure it's still just a LM PST.

Nice loot.
I might have to head out to the Ghetto Town where Pawn shops are plentiful and see if can snatch some sweeties.


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Reply #8 on: January 05, 2008, 11:31:24 PM
I might have to head out to the Ghetto Town where Pawn shops are plentiful and see if can snatch some sweeties.

See if there are any multitools to!
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #9 on: January 05, 2008, 11:33:17 PM
Good find! Wish we had shops like that over here, i don't think i've ever seen a second hand multitool in a shop. Brand new ones are hard enough to find!

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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #10 on: January 06, 2008, 12:38:41 AM
Great find Spoonrobot. There is a MPT at a local store in my area that they have had for 3 years sitting in a glass case. They want $60 bucks for it so I pass every time I go in.

What is the little knife for in this pic of the MPT? Looks different.

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Reply #11 on: January 06, 2008, 12:40:10 AM
It's an awl I belive :o
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #12 on: January 06, 2008, 12:40:29 AM
Great bit of multitool history you got there Spoon!  8)


Isn't it jarring to see those hex-bolts on the MPT? Makes a person wonder if it doesn't have a little SOG in its pedigree somehow :)

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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #13 on: January 06, 2008, 01:22:50 AM
I never find any tools in any local Pawn-shops.. On one occasion I found a beat up LM Supertool but the guy wanted 80 bucks!
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #14 on: January 06, 2008, 05:41:14 AM
 Great finds! I need to come to your town and prowl the pawn shops..the shops around here don't deal much in knives or multis.Seeing the pics of the Coleman,makes me wistful about something that deserved a much better fate.
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #15 on: January 06, 2008, 04:10:49 PM
I've never seen one of those Gerber MPT's in the real world, only on the internet. Now I gots to go get me one.  :D
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Reply #16 on: January 06, 2008, 04:12:43 PM
Tell me about it. Just when I think Ive got enough of the tools another one I see I just got to have.
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #17 on: January 07, 2008, 02:23:29 AM
So I think I may have a theory as to why the Gerber MPT has such short drivers when there is ample room to extend them by at least another 1/4".

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5hBaM4a3mfg


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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #18 on: January 07, 2008, 02:30:09 AM
Interesting- do you really think it was designed that way, or is that just an excuse?

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Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 02:33:01 AM
Interesting- do you really think it was designed that way, or is that just an excuse?

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I, for one, don't know for certain. Could be a legitimate feature or just incidental. Just putting out a theory that occured to me in the shower this morning.


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Reply #20 on: January 07, 2008, 02:36:19 AM
Seems like it might save about two seconds at most.  I could see it being an actual designed in feature if you could also pull the screwdrivers out that way.

Anyone else have an MPT that is about as user friendly?

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Reply #21 on: January 07, 2008, 02:39:22 AM
Seems like it might save about two seconds at most. 

You do realize a large part of my devotion to this hobby is in the interest of saving a 5-step walk to the toolbox right?  :D


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Reply #22 on: January 07, 2008, 02:40:57 AM
Interesting theory.....though it appears that the MPT uses the same components as the Gerber Multi-Plier. :-\
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Reply #23 on: January 07, 2008, 02:44:26 AM
Interesting theory.....though it appears that the MPT uses the same components as the Gerber Multi-Plier. :-\

Scandal and lies.


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Reply #24 on: January 07, 2008, 02:51:42 AM
Interesting theory.....though it appears that the MPT uses the same components as the Gerber Multi-Plier. :-\

Scandal and lies.

Please forgive my blasphemous suggestions... :angel: ;)
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Re: 2008 is going to be a good year! (MPT and Pro-Lock score!)
Reply #25 on: January 07, 2008, 02:53:21 AM
Seems like it might save about two seconds at most.

You do realize a large part of my devotion to this hobby is in the interest of saving a 5-step walk to the toolbox right?  :D

I think that's the reason we are all here!

A couple of years ago on KF someone tried to sell a 40" belt but couldn't because no one on KF has any use for one that small!

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Reply #26 on: January 07, 2008, 02:58:53 AM
I've never seen one of those Gerber MPT's in the real world, only on the internet. Now I gots to go get me one.  :D

Now speak of the devil . For everyone that says that have to have a Gerber MPT now . There is one with black oxide finish on ebay auction # 170183002234

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170183002234&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007

May the best man win , I won't be bidding I already got mine .

High-five for the link.

Any input as to the lettering on the file? Where all the files for this model made by Simonds? Does the company still make the Gerber files?


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Reply #27 on: January 07, 2008, 03:06:26 AM
Seems like the Simonds name stopped showing up on the files about the time the 600-series came out.  :-\
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Reply #28 on: January 07, 2008, 03:08:07 AM
Seems like the Simonds name stopped showing up on the files about the time the 600-series came out.  :-\

Appears so. Found this little blurb on equipped.org.

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Worth noting, the older Gerber Multi-Pliers we have are equipped with files that are stamped "Simonds," a highly respected old-line American file manufacturer.



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Reply #29 on: January 07, 2008, 03:48:12 AM
Seems like the Simonds name stopped showing up on the files about the time the 600-series came out.  :-\

Off track about the Gerber - Simonds connection , but do I remenber correctly that there was a similar connection between Nicholson files - Bear jaws , Bob ? I am foggy on this but I think ..........

Yes and no....

I can't find any evidence that Nicholson produced file blades for Bear......but Bear did produce multitools for Nicholson:
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