PST III?

[Grant Lamontagne]

With Leatherman introducing the third model in the Supertool series, followed by a smaller version of it in the Rebar I'm reminded of how these are often connected at Leatherman HQ- the Supertool was a bigger brother to the PST and the ST200 had a smaller version in the Pulse so the Rebar was a natural progression to the series.  Since old habits die hard I thought it might be neat to see a new version of the PST.  After all, they followed the PST up with the PST II, how far off can the PST III be?

Hypothetically, if Leatherman decided to build a PST III, what would you like to see in it?  For me I'd like it if they maintained the old box style, non locking format so it would be legal everywhere just like the classic PST.  I'd also like to see an awl, seperate plain and serrated blades, the classic diamond file from the PST II, a decent Phillips screwdriver, bottle opener (got to have that!), scissors and the replaceable cutters on the plier head.  Basically I'd like to see a more modernized version of the PST II with a few small changes.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Def

[AimlessWanderer]

A locking, knifeless PST II with awl and pocket clip

[Sjoqvist]

That sounds like the tool for me

I would like to have only two "long" tools, making it slim and light, and for my personal needs it would be nice to have those two accessible from the outside with liner locks. Almost like a slim Wingman/Sidekick.

It should definitely be user serviceable with screws *cough... mod friendly*, skeletonized and with premium steels.

I would like to see a S30V serrated blade, a diamond coated file, a bit driver, an awl, a tiny bit driver and replaceable cutters.

I almost forgot the most important part, it has to be available in black oxide

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

A modernised and strengthened PST II would be just the ticket for me too!

Please leave the damn locks off

[Dunc]

I'd love to see a PST 111 , first improvement would have to be the can opener , the PST ones suck but the Waves are really good.

Dunc

[django.cj]

I'd hazard a statement that the Rebar is the spiritual PST3.  Same toolset as the original, plus a saw. 

[AimlessWanderer]

A modernised and strengthened PST II would be just the ticket for me too!

Please leave the damn locks off

If it's inboard tools, the non-locking would just leave it in that eternal grey area of not freely folding away. Might as well have it lock (screwdrivers are less painful that way    ) and take the knife out. If it had scissors and a diamond file like the PST II, but no knife or saw there might finally be justification for carrying a Farmer 


Oh no, hang on .... no corkscrew and mini driver ... I take it back, standard scales rules again. I'll leave the Farmer on Amazon for a while longer 

[Grant Lamontagne]

I'd hazard a statement that the Rebar is the spiritual PST3.  Same toolset as the original, plus a saw.

I agree with this- sort of.  In my mind the Rebar is more of a Blast redux, although there were some similarities between the Blast and PST II as well.  And, given that the SuperTool/PST were a combo, it gives a little more leverage to the theory that the Rebar is indeed the successor to the PST line.

However, it isn't called a PST so it doesn't count, plus it kind of loses the spirit of the PST line by adding locks.  Neither the PST nor the PST II had locks- the locking version was another model entirely called the Pulse.

Of course all of this is hypothetical... I just thought the idea of an updated PST type model would be a neat exercise.  Still, there have been a lot of coincidences coming from Leatherman in the past.... 

Def

[MultiMat]

I want locks on mine  . Yep diamond file , awl , scissors 

[valvestem125]

I'd like to see a re-release of the old PST.  Just the way it was, easy, simple, affordable.  Not just for me, so I can buy more that the two I have.  But for all those guys who don't have one.  Oh, and uh, date stamps would be nice too.

[django.cj]

I'd say it's spirit has improved by adding locks    I simply think it grew up.

[powernoodle]

how far off can the PST III be?

If they never produce it, I would say the distance of infinity.

what would you like to see in it?

The thin profile and light weight are its best features IMO, so I would very much like to see those retained.  The biggest downside to the PST was the pain those sharp edges produced in your hand when using the plier.  Some rounding of that edge, or a plastic insert would do the trick.  But in my view it would not be a PST if its not thin and very light weight like the original.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

A modernised and strengthened PST II would be just the ticket for me too!

Please leave the damn locks off

If it's inboard tools, the non-locking would just leave it in that eternal grey area of not freely folding away. Might as well have it lock (screwdrivers are less painful that way    ) and take the knife out. If it had scissors and a diamond file like the PST II, but no knife or saw there might finally be justification for carrying a Farmer 


Oh no, hang on .... no corkscrew and mini driver ... I take it back, standard scales rules again. I'll leave the Farmer on Amazon for a while longer 

[Zed]

I would like it like the pst but with the diamond file  but with a clip option and locking tools and a bladeless option with a woodsaw instead of the blade 

[Syph007]

Upgraded steel and/or finish so I stop getting rust!   Thats my only complaint about the whole lineup.  As for new tools I actually would love to dump the fine screwdriver and have an option for a full width 1/4 bit driver that takes standard hex bits.  The flat ones are 'ok' but they always felt like a compromise to me.

[Gareth]

This is an interesting thought.  Leatherman has definitely moved away from it's roots by not offering a slim, light-weight, minimalist, non-locking tool.  We're talking about the PST and PST II, but lets not forget the Sideclip, Flair and the recently departed Kick.  

So what would I like?  Well, something about the same size as the Kick at most but preferably slightly slimmer, using the Rebar design for the rolled edges, non-locking tool, Phillips, medium and small flat driver, file, scissors, NO CLUMPING!, plain edge blade, cap lifter/can opener optional IMO.  Another nice feature would be the Kick's ability to take a pocket clip.

[Metropolicity]

This is an interesting thought.  Leatherman has definitely moved away from it's roots by not offering a slim, light-weight, minimalist, non-locking tool.  We're talking about the PST and PST II, but lets not forget the Sideclip, Flair and the recently departed Kick.  

So what would I like?  Well, something about the same size as the Kick at most but preferably slightly slimmer, using the Rebar design for the rolled edges, non-locking tool, Phillips, medium and small flat driver, file, scissors, NO CLUMPING!, plain edge blade, cap lifter/can opener optional IMO.  Another nice feature would be the Kick's ability to take a pocket clip.

I guess using and trusting locking tools, not to mention having it being legal where I live, I can't do without locking tools.

This gives me a LOT of ideas for a mod...maybe I can take a Rebar and make it into what it was supposed to be....RST III! (Rebar Survival Tool III)

[Gareth]

My issue isn't anything to do with legality, it's far more to do with making for a more streamlined and pocket friendly tool, something that the 'box' style MT is very good for.  LM were/are very very good at making non-locking screwdrivers that didn't fold back on you when in use.  Certainly never happened to me when carrying a Kick at work.

[ironraven]

I'd hazard a statement that the Rebar is the spiritual PST3. 

Concurre.

If I had to design it, it would be a slimmer Rebar. Same pliers, just with fewer layers. Pull out the lanyard ring and serrated sheepsfoot, first. Washers between each layer to cut down on the dreaded clump (which has never been major for me, really). Then a poll to see which gets used more, the saw or the file, and then put the winner in with a plain edged sheepsfoot, with two significant variants in the stable. One would be designed for people who carry a knife already and replaces the blade with the other tool (so saw and file). The other would be without the locks.

[Gryffin]

Heck, I'd be happy with just the tool set of the PST-II (especially the diamond file and scissors) in a slightly wider body with the Rebar's "rolled" edges for comfort. If the implements lock, all the better, but even if they didn't, I'd want one.

I see it as a slimmer, lighter Rebar, with one of my favorite EDC tool combinations ever. heck, I might buy two!

[Ombudsman]

I will love to see a PST III made with the tools on the outside, that will make it more comfortable to use and slimmer at the same time.

Is not like they care adapting other designs like what they did with the OHT, and they already have rights to the Bearjaws/Swisstool patent. 
 

[Breezy12]

I think a PST III would make a great anniversary edition tool for Leatherman's upcoming 30th anniversary. 

LM could make a few different versions, like a "standard" edition, a 30th anniversary edition engraved with a logo and Tim's signature (a la the 25th anniversary Wave), and a limited edition (like the 25th anniversary Charge) -- perhaps gold plated like the 10th anniversary PSTs were?

anyway, I like the ideas that have been thrown out so far.  I'd be in the camp of keeping a slim profile like the original PST and keeping the tools on the inside, but I'd love to see 154CM or S30V steel for the main blade (no serrations!).  the original PST had two large tools (blade and file), so I'd add in the diamond file for the second large tool. 

in addition, the PST had 3 small tools on each side -- I'd go with scissors, philips driver, and can/bottle opener on one side, and an awl, flat driver,  and... I'm not sure what my final choice would be.    maybe a small bit driver (I get a ton of use out of mine, but I know not everyone likes it), or maybe a package opener similar to the Wingman's?

[David]

A diamond file would be nice. But I`d rather have a serrated knife blade in place of the file. No scissors for me.   

[Outback in Idaho]

Should any new tools some out I hope they come with the diamond coated file. Them old ones and like the Crunch have are for the birds.

All tools on board should be functional, up to date, tried & true. That being said, an awl with the awlsome threadloop.

Can see the reason of the replaceable wire cutters. Cannot say how many times my PST models have done the splits around a wire and left a risen area that gummed up future wire cutting ability. The OHT has an interesting pliers that I hope will migrate over to the smaller or medium use tools.

The scales of a Charge/Juice/Wave models would be wanted, as opposed to the rolled over edge that adds to girth and wasted space.