Thinking about a sog

[Hypnos3510]

OK so as the title says I am thinking about getting a sog multi tool. I have always love the multi tool and have a few leathermans, but I want to try out sog.  I have been hearing nothing but great things about all there tool which makes it that much harder to decide on.  The size is really not an issue because I'm probably in my car, and plus I have EDC a surge with a light and both bit kit and extender. So tell me what you guys think what is your favorite tool.
Sorry about that my auto correct change sog to dog.
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[MultiMat]

SOGs are terrific MTs , the ability to easily customise the tool load is great, compound leverage gives SOGs phenomenal wire cutting ability & gripe strength. The one negative for me is the gearing associated with compound leverage means you have to open the handles a very long way to get a average plier opening , which is fine is you have BIG hands. Pocket PowerPlier is a good one if you have average sized hands , but no tool locks on the PPP & the Paratool is a innovative MT (no compound leverage or locks though).If you have larger sized hands you would be fine with any of the SOG MTs 
Lets us know what you settle on mate   

[Hypnos3510]

Oh great, good to know. I really what to try the compound leverage of the sog, so ill look more to the bigger tools.
Thanks and ill posts pictures of whatever tool I get.
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[MultiMat]

The Power PocketPlier is a good medium sized MT & it has Compound Leverage  .

The CrossCut(scissor based MT) & CrossGrip(small plier based MT) have compound leverage in a key chain sized MT  , CrossGrip does not seem to currently available from SOG  , they do come up fairly frequently on Ebay though 

Good luck with the choosing mate

[Lynn LeFey]

The Crosscut is my first and favorite MT. I had a Powerlock and traded it away, mostly because it was bigger than I'd ever carry. But MM is right, the compound leverage of the heads make them exceptional for grip strength and wire cutting. They only require about half the force to cut 12-gauge wire as any other MT I tested, which is great if you're doing it repetitively.

While the ability to customize your tool load-out IS great, I was less than thrilled with some of their tools (scissors, can opener, for instance). Just keep in mind that you get more tool 'slots' on the Powerlock than on the Pocket Power Plier... if that matters to you.

Let us know what you finally decide on.

[Hypnos3510]

Thanks guys after looking at the crosscut I am liking it more and more, and it looks like it will make a great pocket tool. Plus with my dog peeing blood and now needing surgery my expenses and going to be very limited. I am really leaning more and more to the crosscut. Thanks for all of your help and I will let all of you guys know what I'm getting as soon as I order it.

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[Ashley]

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[zoidberg]

I rate the micra over the crosscut.

It is slightly smaller in all dimensions. It is tapered at the end and doesn't have toothy gears. The scissors cut much better than my crosscut. It has a 2d philips driver. Inside tools can be used with one handle shut which is very useful, something the crosscut can't do.

The crosscut looks way cooler. Has bigger scissors with fancy leverage and finger cutouts. Better file. And a plastic pick thing.

If I gave away my micra, I would be happy knowing they had a great tool and I would have to buy myself another asap.

My crosscut sits on top of the bookshelf. I don't want to sell it and have the buyer feel ripped off like I did. I can't give it away because I would rather give what I use and trust. It hasn't been thrown out only because it owes me money. I'll probably try to replace the scissors with pliers or strip it for the hardware.

I like my style cs better than the crosscut too. And that was a gift. Sorry Lynn, I'm just not feelin it like you do.

Maybe a bigger tool like Mat suggested might be the way to go. I've been wanting some chunky compound pliers for a while now but without being able to see them in person first, I'm not going to risk it.

[Lynn LeFey]

Well, the only way to settle this is in true MTO fashion. Hypnos3510 should get BOTH the Crosscut and Micra, and decide for himself.

[Hypnos3510]

Well, the only way to settle this is in true MTO fashion. Hypnos3510 should get BOTH the Crosscut and Micra, and decide for himself.

I think I just might have to do that, when in doubt buy both. )

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[Zed]

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I agree ash   

ive used a few sogs now and mainly for work, i decided i didnt like the paratool for work as its plier head folded sideways too many times and i wanted locking tools as get fed up with drivers folding on me  so i tried the pocket power pliers, i like this MT due to mainly its size and now fitted with a clip its perfect for me, and as said you can custom the tool load , ive changed the file for a wood saw but you can do other options, ive tried many including the v-cutter but it didnt do it for me use wise, but i settled on the powerlock for work as prefered the gear covers for comfort and the locking tools, but for day to day edc its the ppp for me clippped in my pocket, heres a pic 

oh powerlocks covers are removed as drove me nuts as kept sliding off 

[AimlessWanderer]

I'm suffering SOG Depletion Syndrome at the moment 

I was very unsettled with my Powerlock, and while I loved the pliers I couldn't get on with using the rather modest tools in such a robust "handle". I ended up breaking it for parts.

My PPP worked well for me, but after a couple of falling outs with the gears of madness I upgraded to a PT-510 body. I transferred across the tools I wanted from the PPP, and added a couple of tools from a LM PST II and was very happy with the result. The PPP complete with all the remaining parts was then gifted away.

Recently (about a month ago or so), my PT-510 went AWOL. If that doesn't resurface it means aqcuiring another PT-510 and a couple extra parts, and then sacrificing another PST II for its vital organs (diamond file and scissors). I'd really like to avoid all that if possible.

Effectively all I have left at the moment is a Powerlock carcass, a few parts floating about, and my rather excellent Japanese made Toolclip in a Maxped EDC Micro Organiser set up

[Zed]

sorry to hear about your loss Al    i would be gutted if i lost one of my MT's as i havnt many and cant afford to replace them unless i sell something    i totally agree on the ppp's gears Al, i did do a post a while back about sog adding a guard to there ppp  they did it to there powerlock and i have them on mine and they do make a difference although the gears dont bother me too much , well not as much as the powerlocks handle covers and the paratools folding pliers 

[AimlessWanderer]

sorry to hear about your loss Al    i would be gutted if i lost one of my MT's as i havnt many and cant afford to replace them unless i sell something    i totally agree on the ppp's gears Al, i did do a post a while back about sog adding a guard to there ppp  they did it to there powerlock and i have them on mine and they do make a difference although the gears dont bother me too much , well not as much as the powerlocks handle covers and the paratools folding pliers 

   I know what you mean  To be honest if it doesn't turn up I'll just do without (fun while it lasted kind of thing), as my modded MP400 has adopted the role quite nicely - in my pocket now as it happens. I'll miss it - but not enough to go to all the time and expense to replicate it again.

[Syph007]

Ive got a powerlock and a paratool, and now you guys are making me want to get a PPP to try.   

Edit:  I see a S44-N  and a S45-N model listed with a 10 dollar price difference.     Oh they have different loadouts but the main body is the same?

[AimlessWanderer]

Ive got a powerlock and a paratool, and now you guys are making me want to get a PPP to try. 

Pssst ... Paladin PT-510  same tool with nicer plier heads and gear covers. Needs the innards swapping about but I'm sure that'll not pose you any problems 

[Zed]

Ive got a powerlock and a paratool, and now you guys are making me want to get a PPP to try. 

Pssst ... Paladin PT-510  same tool with nicer plier heads and gear covers. Needs the innards swapping about but I'm sure that'll not pose you any problems 

and robert has a few sog parts on the way Al 

[AimlessWanderer]

Nice one 

[Syph007]

LOL ok... I'll have to keep my eyes open for a PT-510 too then.    Are the tools in it worse is that why you put the sog ones in?

[Zed]

LOL ok... I'll have to keep my eyes open for a PT-510 too then.    Are the tools in it worse is that why you put the sog ones in?

could be because the more electrician based tools 

[AimlessWanderer]

http://www.multitool.org/Miscellaneous-Tools/Medium-Tools/2006/12/06/paladin-power-play-pt-510.html

 Bob's review on the main site

[Syph007]

http://www.multitool.org/Miscellaneous-Tools/Medium-Tools/2006/12/06/paladin-power-play-pt-510.html

 Bob's review on the main site

Sometimes I forget there is a main site besides the forums.... 

[Zed]

http://www.multitool.org/Miscellaneous-Tools/Medium-Tools/2006/12/06/paladin-power-play-pt-510.html

 Bob's review on the main site

Sometimes I forget there is a main site besides the forums.... 

I think ive printed most of them out now , always handy and a nice evening read  i also sent you some scissors robert and will fit a ppp etc, just needs a new spring 

worked smoother than sogs lol

[Hypnos3510]

I finally had a chance to ordered a sog crosscut. I figure let me start of small this time as my key desperately needed a multi tool on them. It had come down to the crosscut and the powerlock. I went with the crosscut only because I have about 10 multi tools and not one for my keys. But like everyone here I have the bug and I know this is not going to be my only sog. As soon as it comes in I will post pictures of it
Thanks for everyones help I really appreciate it.
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[Syph007]

Ive got a powerlock and a paratool, and now you guys are making me want to get a PPP to try. 

Pssst ... Paladin PT-510  same tool with nicer plier heads and gear covers. Needs the innards swapping about but I'm sure that'll not pose you any problems 

Ok my Power pliers showed up today.  I actually got them from Amazon Canada for a great price of $35 with free ship.  Nice tool, I really like it.  And of course I immediately see why you swapped the frame for a PT-510.  The gears need covering.  I had a look around for a PT-510 at my usual spots but nothing turned up.  Any idea where a good place to get one is?

[AimlessWanderer]

It's an electrical data/comms type tool so if you have any dealers who do that kind of think (suppliers to the trade) I'd have a look at those. Otherwise it's Google or the "wanted" forum I reckon. Or Travis ...

[Syph007]

It's an electrical data/comms type tool so if you have any dealers who do that kind of think (suppliers to the trade) I'd have a look at those. Otherwise it's Google or the "wanted" forum I reckon. Or Travis ...

Ya I'll have a look around.  Amazon US has them, but of course not Canada.  Travis actually helped me get a paratool from Amazon US when I was after one of those before...

[parnass]

I had a look around for a PT-510 at my usual spots but nothing turned up.  Any idea where a good place to get one is?

I bought new PT-510s for $15 to $20 (shipped) on eBay during the last 2 months.  I think I was the only bidder in those auctions.  They appear on eBay often so search frequently.

[Hypnos3510]

So after anxiously waiting for my crosscut from Amazon I get an email saying that they are out of stock. I ordered it over a week ago, and they send me an email today about it. I'm am disappointed in the Amazon store, but it has not deterred me from getting another sog.  Anyways ill keep all of you guys posted.

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[Syph007]

Thanks to Travis I've got a PT-510 on it's way to me now, so I can do a tools swap and enjoy covered gears!   Then what to do with the old hurty one though eh?