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"Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?

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"Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
on: December 27, 2012, 12:18:08 AM
I just realized the "Non Tool Forum" section seems really mis-named.  I think we should choose a new name for it, and start 2013 with more clarity.

My first suggestion is the "Less Sharp Tool Forms", because "Dull Tool Forum" just does not sound good either.  Flashlights are definetly important tools so I think it's time to name this section correctly.

Maybe the original intent was the "Non Multitool Forum" and the shorting of the name kind of changed its meaning?

Or maybe the Flashlight forum should just be moved to the "Tool Talk" section?
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"Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 12:43:25 AM
If we either rename or move, I'm not sure I would be able to navigate around here anymore.. :ahhh ;)


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 01:59:07 AM
I think Non Tool Forum is fine.
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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 02:06:14 AM
I think it makes sense the way it is myself... multitools are not flashlights, and this is multitool.org, which would suggest we generally mean multitool by the word tool.

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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 04:30:41 AM
I just realized the "Non Tool Forum" section seems really mis-named.  I think we should choose a new name for it, and start 2013 with more clarity.

My first suggestion is the "Less Sharp Tool Forms", because "Dull Tool Forum" just does not sound good either.  Flashlights are definetly important tools so I think it's time to name this section correctly.

Maybe the original intent was the "Non Multitool Forum" and the shorting of the name kind of changed its meaning?

Or maybe the Flashlight forum should just be moved to the "Tool Talk" section?

You know, I've often thought about this- that a flashlight is an important tool and maybe it should be in Tool Talk rather than Non Tool.  I mean, I can't imagine an even mildly equipped toolbox without a flashlight.

However, they aren't multitools, but then for clarity perhaps this should be "Multitool Talk" and "Non Multitool Talk" rather than too and non tool.  To be honest, I never really liked the name "non tool" so I'm happy to change it if we come up with something better.

We've never been huge sticklers here for what goes where, or what label gets put on what, but I'm up for a little reorganizing if folks think something else would make more sense.

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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 07:03:33 AM
I would agree to moving the flashlight forum but renaming the non-tool forum would have to be a better name than "less sharp" (not that there's anything wrong with that). I've been kicking this one around all evening and still nothing.
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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 01:46:55 PM
Feel free to kick it around for a bit if you like.  We plan to be here a good long while and we can change things pretty well any time.  :D

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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 08:45:25 PM
I think just calling it "Non-Multitool" would suffice fine.


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 09:55:38 AM
Flashlight and non-tool Forum   :D
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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012, 02:13:47 PM
According to wiki the tools in the tool forum are part of "hand tools" "cutting and abrasive tools" and maybe "garden tools". Flashlights fall in "Other tools" category. I think you're best off leaving the "tools forum" and have a forum with "other gear", which includes carrying methods and electronic gear...


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"Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 04:12:03 PM
From my pow a flashlight isn't a tool, it's simply a piece of equipment that can give light so you can see when it's dark. Belonging in a toolbox or not, it still doesn't makes it a tool, so keeping it in the Non Tool forum is just fine by me.. :)


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #11 on: December 29, 2012, 04:14:36 PM
That's my logic too Allan. If it 'aint broke.... :)
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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #12 on: December 29, 2012, 05:38:27 PM
If you grab the dictionary alongside then a flashlight fits in the:
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tool 
1.an implement, especially one held in the hand, as a hammer, saw, or file, for performing or facilitating mechanical operations.
2.any instrument of manual operation.
3.the cutting or machining part of a lathe, planer, drill, or similar machine.
4.the machine itself; a machine tool.
5.anything used as a means of accomplishing a task or purpose: Education is a tool for success.

And one could make a case for 1. as well IMO. Perhaps explain why it isn't a tool  :think:


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #13 on: December 29, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
A flashlight is a tool used to facilitate illumination.


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 06:34:44 PM
Yeah, but then my hands are tools too, and my toothbrush.... kinda blurry line!
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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #15 on: December 29, 2012, 07:42:28 PM
Hands no, but yes I actually would consider a toothbrush a tool. By definition, that's exactly what it is.


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #16 on: December 29, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
Maybe so, and that's why this could get overly complicated.
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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #17 on: December 29, 2012, 10:41:43 PM
Fortunately following the definitions of others has never been our strong suit!   >:D

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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #18 on: December 29, 2012, 10:44:33 PM
I've always found this to be a useful guide: http://www.thedevilsdictionary.com/

(for adults with a sense of humour only of course) >:D

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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #19 on: December 29, 2012, 10:45:04 PM
I vote we call it George  :tu:


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #20 on: December 29, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
I've always found this to be a useful guide: http://www.thedevilsdictionary.com/

(for adults with a sense of humour only of course) >:D



I'll have to check that out when I get home from work tonight!

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Reply #21 on: December 29, 2012, 10:48:58 PM
I vote we call it George  :tu:
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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #22 on: December 29, 2012, 10:53:47 PM
I vote we call it George  :tu:
Bwian, just like that SAK... ;)

:D :D

Well Francis never updated the wiki to reflect the public vote  :P so I figured I try a different name this time  :D


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #23 on: December 29, 2012, 10:54:42 PM
I've always found this to be a useful guide: http://www.thedevilsdictionary.com/

(for adults with a sense of humour only of course) >:D


 :rofl: Ambrose Bierce had a wry sense of humor.  I have a copy of that somewhere around here, but just bookmarked the site.  :tu:
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Reply #24 on: December 29, 2012, 10:59:58 PM
I vote we call it George  :tu:
Bwian, just like that SAK... ;)

:D :D

Well Francis never updated the wiki to reflect the public vote  :P so I figured I try a different name this time  :D
Another vote for George then.. :tu:


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #25 on: December 29, 2012, 11:01:19 PM
George the Forum has quite a nice ring to it... can we hug it and squeeze it too? >:D
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Reply #26 on: December 29, 2012, 11:04:10 PM
George the Forum has quite a nice ring to it... can we hug it and squeeze it too? >:D
We might even have to rename the whole site to MultiGeorge.Org.. :hatsoff:


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #27 on: December 29, 2012, 11:05:10 PM
 :rofl: :rofl:


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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #28 on: December 29, 2012, 11:21:18 PM
George the Forum has quite a nice ring to it... can we hug it and squeeze it too? >:D
We might even have to rename the whole site to MultiGeorge.Org.. :hatsoff:

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Re: "Non Tool Forum" Mis-named?
Reply #29 on: December 30, 2012, 12:07:09 AM
Rofl.  After reading the whole thread and pondering it intensely,  I second the motion of naming the non tool forum "The George Forum"

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