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Blackberry is now "Blackberry"

gb Offline Millhouse

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Re: Blackberry is now "Blackberry"
Reply #30 on: February 01, 2013, 08:15:05 AM
Blackberry has been in the UK tech press a fair bit the last few days, with the Z10 launching here yesterday. There is speculation that they may license their OS to other handset manufacturers.
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Re: Blackberry is now "Blackberry"
Reply #31 on: February 01, 2013, 10:30:46 AM
^ I dare say partly because Steve jobs was one of the best salesman the world has and possibly will ever see
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Re: Blackberry is now "Blackberry"
Reply #32 on: February 01, 2013, 02:57:55 PM
Some here are confusing sales and marketing.

"Marketing is everything that you do to reach and persuade prospects. The sales process is everything that you do to close the sale and get a signed agreement or contract."

Steve Jobs may well have been the best marketer in history, but others can take responsibility for the sale of his products.

Joe Girard is recognized as one of the best salesmen ever.  He sold over 13,000 cars in 15 years.  No one else has ever come close to that.
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Re: Blackberry is now "Blackberry"
Reply #33 on: February 01, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
I think the guy that came up with the Pet Rock has them both beat all to hell...



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Re: Blackberry is now "Blackberry"
Reply #34 on: February 01, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
:rofl:

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Re: Blackberry is now "Blackberry"
Reply #35 on: February 02, 2013, 01:09:04 AM
The key to Apple's success comes down to customers. Apple tries to think like their customers. Apple respects their customers. Apple tries to make hardware and software that their customers want.

Many companies fail because they loose sight of who their customers are and what they want. Or they treat their customers like consumers, expecting them to always buy, buy, buy...

RIM thought that the average person wanted the same thing that corporate IT departments were cramming down employees throats - they were wrong. RIM thought it was okay to produce products that wouldn't last longer that the average persons contract - they were wrong. I could go on, but suffice it to say, RIM executives were wrong and it will be an uphill battle for them to get to 3rd place in the market.

I do wish them well.


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Re: Blackberry is now "Blackberry"
Reply #36 on: February 03, 2013, 01:27:31 AM
The key to Apple's success comes down to customers. Apple tries to think like their customers. Apple respects their customers. Apple tries to make hardware and software that their customers want.

Many companies fail because they loose sight of who their customers are and what they want. Or they treat their customers like consumers, expecting them to always buy, buy, buy...

RIM thought that the average person wanted the same thing that corporate IT departments were cramming down employees throats - they were wrong. RIM thought it was okay to produce products that wouldn't last longer that the average persons contract - they were wrong. I could go on, but suffice it to say, RIM executives were wrong and it will be an uphill battle for them to get to 3rd place in the market.

I do wish them well.


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Actually Steve Jobs once said "People don't know what they want until we tell them what they want".  That sounds a bit arrogant, but actually it is the truth.  People tend to want something similar to what they already have, but with a few changes. The companies that dominate their industries and show the most growth are the companies that take chances and bring products to market that are very different than the items that people are currently using.

 The average person is not a visionary.  Before the iPhone was introduced, if you asked what people wanted in their next phone, very few would have described anything like an iPhone because they did not have the vision to realize that such a machine was possible.

Henry Ford made a similar observation.  "Before the Model T, if I would have asked people what they wanted they would have told me that they wanted a faster horse."  At the time most people did not think that an automobile would ever be affordable enough for the  average person, but they were accustomed to using horses for transportation.

So this is the way I would rephrase your statement. Many companies lose their dominant position because they stop innovating and fail to introduce new products that will  create demand in their present and prospective customers.
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