Best Bolt Action Service Rifle.

[BIG-TARGET]

Isn't the Springfield and Mauser almost the same design?
They definately use the SAME stripper clips

[I'm Still Bison]

Isn't the Springfield and Mauser almost the same design?
They definately use the SAME stripper clips

               Yep,you're right.The US Govt had to pay a licensing fee to Mauser in order to make the '03. A little factoid is that Remington's agent in Europe,had originally bought the rights and patents from Karl Mauser,but Remington's highest level management thought the agent overstepped his bounds and cancelled the purchase.

[Dtrain]

I had an SMLE for awhile.I always felt the same way about it as several of you fine folks do.The weapon was quick to cycle,especially for a bolt action.It was reasonably accurate out to 200 yards.The cartridge has a decent amount of oomph.The rifle was built to take alot of punishment.Wht I liked most of all was the detachable magazine.To bad it was not a 30-06.I wish I nvere got rid of mine :cry:Oh well.

dtrain

[665ae]

So when will the semi auto service rifle thread start?

[I'm Still Bison]

So when will the semi auto service rifle thread start?

            My vote would go to the FN 49 on that one.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

So when will the semi auto service rifle thread start?

Truth is mate, I've no practical experience with Semi's as our lot banned them when I was 11 or 12, maybe someone else want's to wade in and start one

[Biru]

I'd like to try the other bolts which you have on your list. Truth to tell, I've never knowingly been in the presence of any of them except the Enfield and Arisaka. I've always heard bad things about the Krags and have never seen a Springfield. The Mausers seem to carry a GREAT rep. The Arisaka I had supposedly had a chrome-lined barrel for longevity. It was a heavy rifle and I always felt for the poor Bushido who had to lug that thing about. It was just one of those rifles that you just wanted to put down. Not a good sign.

When you get that auto thing going, I want to pitch the Thompson Tommy Gun- the one with the WWII-era horizontal stock, not the gangster hand grip. Sure I'm old-fashioned, but that thing is still COOL. I've never seen one in the raw, but I have some DVDs of WWII jungle fighting and that rifle is neat.

Since you mentioned it, do British gun laws allow you to have the bolt action rifles? I had understood that shotguns were the primary allowable weapons.

[J-sews]

If I had my druthers for going to war back then..it would've been the Winchester 95 lever action chambered in 30.06.

Do we start a semi-auto thread next, or shall we delve into lever guns first? 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I'd like to try the other bolts which you have on your list. Truth to tell, I've never knowingly been in the presence of any of them except the Enfield and Arisaka. I've always heard bad things about the Krags and have never seen a Springfield. The Mausers seem to carry a GREAT rep. The Arisaka I had supposedly had a chrome-lined barrel for longevity. It was a heavy rifle and I always felt for the poor Bushido who had to lug that thing about. It was just one of those rifles that you just wanted to put down. Not a good sign.

When you get that auto thing going, I want to pitch the Thompson Tommy Gun- the one with the WWII-era horizontal stock, not the gangster hand grip. Sure I'm old-fashioned, but that thing is still COOL. I've never seen one in the raw, but I have some DVDs of WWII jungle fighting and that rifle is neat.

Since you mentioned it, do British gun laws allow you to have the bolt action rifles? I had understood that shotguns were the primary allowable weapons.

No we are allowed bolt action rifle's , the trouble is there is such a huge ammount of hassel and expence in getting any type of gun that most of us (me included) just don't bother

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

If I had my druthers for going to war back then..it would've been the Winchester 95 lever action chambered in 30.06.

Do we start a semi-auto thread next, or shall we delve into lever guns first? 

Lever action's are fine by me, not a combat riflem but I think 'yellow boys' are gorgeous

[I'm Still Bison]

There was a small batch of the Savage 99 made for a military contract back at the turn of the 20th century.Several years ago, I collected American Civil War firearms,and the prize piece was a Spencer carbine,it was surprisingly heavy for a cavalry weapon.A few years after the war,Winchester bought up the rights and patents to the Spencer,as well as the Whitney lever action to keep competition to it's own lever guns to a minimum.

[J-sews]

...and the Model 1895 Winchester that Bob referred to was made in large quantities for export to the Czar's armies in Russia. (I believe I read that more were exported to Russia than were sold in the U.S.)

[ducktapehero]

I love lever action rifles. There's gobs and gobs of Marlin and Winchester 30-30's around here.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

...and the Model 1895 Winchester that Bob referred to was made in large quantities for export to the Czar's armies in Russia. (I believe I read that more were exported to Russia than were sold in the U.S.)

Wasn't that Teddys favourite rifle

[I'm Still Bison]

...and the Model 1895 Winchester that Bob referred to was made in large quantities for export to the Czar's armies in Russia. (I believe I read that more were exported to Russia than were sold in the U.S.)

Wasn't that Teddys favourite rifle

                The '95 in .405 Winchester was Teddy's favorite,a few years ago when Winchester was still making lever guns,they made a small limited edition run of a reproduction of Teddy's rifle.

It's been many years since I read this,so my numbers may be wrong,but I think that something like over 250,000 '95's were made for the Russians in WWI.Several years ago, a company ran ads in Shotgun News selling the actions of Czarist 95's.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

It would certainly have given the Russians a lot more firepower (well at least in rate of fire) than the old Moisin Nagant

[Dtrain]

...and the Model 1895 Winchester that Bob referred to was made in large quantities for export to the Czar's armies in Russia. (I believe I read that more were exported to Russia than were sold in the U.S.)

Wasn't that Teddys favourite rifle

                The '95 in .405 Winchester was Teddy's favorite,a few years ago when Winchester was still making lever guns,they made a small limited edition run of a reproduction of Teddy's rifle.

It's been many years since I read this,so my numbers may be wrong,but I think that something like over 250,000 '95's were made for the Russians in WWI.Several years ago, a company ran ads in Shotgun News selling the actions of Czarist 95's.

If I am correct I believe that TR took 95's to Cuba chambered in 30-40 Krag.Maybe a better history buff can help me on that one.I think he armed his "Rough Riders" with them.

dtrain

[I'm Still Bison]

The Rough Riders were one of the very few units not in the Regular Army to carry Krag carbines. About all militia regiments still carried Trapdoor Springfields. On a side note,Teddy carried at least one Colt SAA revolver that was recovered from the USS Maine.

[Dtrain]

The Rough Riders were one of the very few units not in the Regular Army to carry Krag carbines. About all militia regiments still carried Trapdoor Springfields. On a side note,Teddy carried at least one Colt SAA revolver that was recovered from the USS Maine.

Were they the 1895's or the bolt actions?

Dtrain

[I'm Still Bison]

The requirements of this re-enactment group state the Krag carbine

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