firearms

[buck]

I just got a Scar 17. It seems great except for the flimsy stock. Of course some company makes a multitool with custom tools just for it thats in the manner of the tool that comes with HK SL8.

Info about the SCAR multitool?  Is it this SCARmorer?
http://shop.shootingsight.com/SCARmorer-SCAR-Folding-Multi-Tool-SCARmorer.htm

What ammo does your SCAR like?

[buck]

Thanks regarding the 50-95 1876.  I may load some black powder cartridges as it seems safer than smokeless in that it's impossible to double charge.

[s1xty7]

Where can you get those 22 targets?

You should be able to print them from the links found here: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462689

I need to give it a try with my 10/22 TD sometime.

[Chako]

Just shot the S&W 586 with both .38 specials, and .357 Magnums. I was a bit disappointed in the Magnums. I had thought it would have had a bit more recoil. I guess once you get used to 12 gauge slugs, everything else is relative.

What a sweet shooter. Now if only my local gun shop can source a competition holster and 3 safariland speedloader belt holders. 

[HarleyXJGuy]

Just shot the S&W 586 with both .38 specials, and .357 Magnums. I was a bit disappointed in the Magnums. I had thought it would have had a bit more recoil. I guess once you get used to 12 gauge slugs, everything else is relative.

What a sweet shooter. Now if only my local gun shop can source a competition holster and 3 safariland speedloader belt holders. 

Try some .357 Magnum from a J frame air weight and see how you feel about its recoil lol. The 586 you have is a heavy beast well suited to .357 Magnum round.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Nice, Chako.   That particular rifle was made by Harrington & Richardson for many years in many different calibers and configurations.  My dad has one in .45-70.  A word of warning about the .223.  The civilian and military chambering specs are different, so be careful shooting surplus 5.56x45 NATO.

What JD said. Although anything chambered for 5.56 will shoot any .223 fine.

This is my small group set up along with my Ruger 10/22.



An attempt at the tackdriver game at 25 yards.

Where can you get those 22 targets?

Yep Rimfire Central website. They have a lot of fun games and targets there.

[Chako]

Last night I was able to get out to the range before the usual club's Wednesday meal. I fired off only a few 38 special and 357 Magnums...more to see how the S&W 586 shoots, and to see how these rounds feel...being my first time shooting either.

Do you see this.

   <----

Yep that is a big silly grin. I shot 6 rounds of 38 special and thought to myself this was like shooting a 22. I then fired a few rounds of 357 magnums and thought this was equivalent to shooting my 9 mm S&W M&P as far as felt recoil.

Here is the proof. Not the best groups but in my defense, it was - 18 Celsius and I wasn't dressed for the cold much. The nice cut holes where from the 357 magnum Blazers. The ragged holes were from the 38 special lead nose bullets. It is also a small target, and even those outliers would be in the zone on an IPSC body of mass target.



I then made it into the clubhouse afterwards. There were a few key members already in. They drooled over the wheel-gun like nothing else I have seen. This is odd as most of these guys are into tactical stuff big time. When I told them I was thinking of using it for IPSC competition, big silly grins were evident. One told me I might start another trend back to revolvers if I showed up with this strapped onto my belt. He also told me I would be the only one in the revolver class. I left the gun on the ammo free bench for the rest of the meal. Member upon member asked if they could hold it and fondle it. I was taken aback. I guess this was something special as during the meal, there were quite a lot of conversations centered around their old wheel-guns that were sold ages ago and of the regret after seeing mine. Wow...is this the start of something old coming back again? 

Anyways, now I am having great fun trying to find a competition holster and 3 speed-loader belt holders. The joy of living in Canada...I can't just order gun things online from the US.

[Gareth]

Great to hear it got such a positive reaction, it well deserves it IMO.

[Aloha]

Great to hear it got such a positive reaction, it well deserves it IMO.

I agree.  Revolvers have taken a back seat it seams but as in another thread there much love for them.  I dig them and that looks like a behemoth. 

[ColoSwiss]

Revolver vs. Auto?   

I like 'em both!

[HarleyXJGuy]

I am with you guys.

Love me some revolvers. Give me a nice blued Smith any day.

I do aknowledge an auto is better in a tactical or self defense situation but they are more of a to them a fine revolver.

[SAK Guy]

Revolver vs. Auto?   

I like 'em both!

I feel sure it's why the Almighty gave us two hands!!! (please forgive my redneck wisdom) 

[HarleyXJGuy]

Revolver vs. Auto?   

I like 'em both!

I feel sure it's why the Almighty gave us two hands!!! (please forgive my redneck wisdom) 

Nope you are xorrect. I asked my priest and he concurs.

[Gareth]

Hang on a sec Dan.  You do some good leather-work, why don't you give making your own competition holster and loader holders a go?

[Chako]

I can, but am really looking for something like my Bladetech holster...all plasticy and light weight.

[Humppa]

I have to say, I prefer the revolver over the auto.

It is not due to the mechanic, but I like the precision of a revolver for that reason. Not so many moving parts. IMO the SA revolvers are repeating guns, so they are not that picky on ammunition like a semi-auto pistol.

The less moving parts... the better.

But I´m much more a rifleguy. Not that big fan of handguns either. Maybe a nice 686 someday... in some time...

Just my .02 Cent on this topic.

[captain spaulding]

Their is one major reason I prefer a revolver over a semi auto. Reliability. I am in no way saying semi auto's are not reliable, but some are and some are not. Same goes for revolvers, but over the years I have had countless jams, failure to fires, stove piping, magazine not seated, ect. I have never had a failure to fire in a revolver. Never had a jam. Never had any problem with any revolver I have ever owned when referring to failure to function or fire. I also love that if you were in a serious situation and the cartridge was a dud there is no need to do a failure drill (forgot the name) to figure out whats wrong. If its a DA just pull the trigger again. If SA then cock and fire again. Simple is always the best in my opinion. Many less things to go wrong. I also do not like to carry in the front waistband (barrel is 1" from you "family jewels" with a round in the chamber on a semi. I know there are many safety features, but the fact is their is a loaded gun pointed at your junk and if a accident did happen your manhood would be blown away and most likely off. I do not fear this with revolvers. Carrying a semi without one in the chamber is not a option and could get you killed.

[Aloha]

Revolver vs. Auto?   

I like 'em both!

I didn't want to start ish but here was a post not long ago saying revolvers were obsolete ( I may be wrong how it was phrased ).  I disagreed and thought there were plenty of folk who still loved them.  I like them and if I was a gun owner I'd certainly have one or 3  . 

[HarleyXJGuy]

Revolver vs. Auto?   

I like 'em both!

I didn't want to start ish but here was a post not long ago saying revolvers were obsolete ( I may be wrong how it was phrased ).  I disagreed and thought there were plenty of folk who still loved them.  I like them and if I was a gun owner I'd certainly have one or 3  .

Obsolete?!

Let me shoot the naysayer with an obsolete Model 19 .357 and you tell me how obsolete it is.

[David]

I love me some revolver. The revolver has never taken a back seat to an auto with me. A nice blue Smith is a beauty to behold.   

Dan if you ever get a chance to fire a .500 Linebaugh with full house loads please do so. It a real exciting experience you wont soon forget. I think you may have found a handgun and round with enough recoil.     Just thinking of firing one of those dinosaur slayers again almost makes my hand hurt. Getting soft in my old age.      I dont even load my 45 Ruger Bisley very hot any more. I can push 310 to 340 gr SWC or LBT bullets around 1200 out of a 4 3/4" barrel with a healthy dose of H-110. But find my hand much preferrs the 1000 fps range much better.

[buck]

I like both.  I think since the advent of the wondernines in the 80's there are many autos that are über reliable.  I've never seen a Glock, Beretta, CZ, HK, (non-Umarex) Walther or high end 1911 jam for any reason.  I've seen a used Sig 357 jam once when dirty after a few magazines.  I've also seen a 38 snub revolver fall apart when some part of the cylinder became unscrewed but also not until it had fired a cylinder full and was opened to reload.

I've seen bad ammo cause problems with both.  Regarding the revolver high primers or thick rims can cause the cylinder to lock up.

There's no getting around the fact that autos hold more bullets.

I'm getting a Guncrafter with extra parts that will fire 9mm, 38 Super, and 9x23 Winchester.

[SAK Guy]

I like both but shoot a 1911 much better.

Here's an unrelated ammo test pic of the Kit Gun just because....

[shark_za]

Hmm, people saying revolvers are more reliable need to shoot them a lot more under pressure and in more varied conditions.
When a revolver jams you tend to need tools to get it going again.
Loading and unloading can introduce some serious jams if not done right.

[captain spaulding]

Hmm, people saying revolvers are more reliable need to shoot them a lot more under pressure and in more varied conditions.
When a revolver jams you tend to need tools to get it going again.
Loading and unloading can introduce some serious jams if not done right.

I have personally never had ANY revolver I own jam or misfire. I have misfires or a jam frequently with semi's. The situation I am referring to has nothing to do with a reload so that is not even on the radar. In your "normal" situation where a CCW weapon is used (revo or semi) I have almost never seen a reload. I actually cannot recall a single event where a reload was done in such a situation. I have also never jammed a revolver reloading it in my entire life and i'm not just talking standard range time.

[kirk13]

I like both but shoot a 1911 much better.

Here's an unrelated ammo test pic of the Kit Gun just because....

Excuse my ignorance,but why is it a Kit Gun?

[ColoSwiss]

I like both but shoot a 1911 much better.

Here's an unrelated ammo test pic of the Kit Gun just because....

Excuse my ignorance,but why is it a Kit Gun?

It was a small light revolver you could throw in your kit bag for camping, fishing etc.

[kirk13]

I like both but shoot a 1911 much better.

Here's an unrelated ammo test pic of the Kit Gun just because....

Excuse my ignorance,but why is it a Kit Gun?

It was a small light revolver you could throw in your kit bag for camping, fishing etc.

Ah! Thank you

I did wonder if it was a self build(I've seen self build black powder pistols before)

[Chako]

I am glad you asked...as I was wondering about that as well.

[SAK Guy]

Thx CS!

   

[ColoSwiss]

My Dad had a S&W .22LR Kit Gun at one time; probably the first pistol I shot. He was darn good with it; saw him nail copperheads and cottonmouths with it on numerous occasions.

His Marlin 39 was probably the first rifle I shot.