Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?

[rdub934]

Just checked the trademarkia link again:

Status Update! On Tuesday, December 23, 2014, status on the SIGNAL trademark changed to PUBLISHED FOR OPPOSITION.

http://www.trademarkia.com/signal-86337513.html

I think we will know what this is come mid-January

[JAfromMn]

 

[JBW1]

It sounds awesome, cant wait  It looks like they are still going forward with the watch too? The TREAD I guess? not too awesome

[Higgins617]

Okay I'm officially interested

[sawman]

Sigh... no pics 

[Higgins617]

Sigh... no pics 

As long as it isn't a brother to the REV we should be celebrating!

[sawman]

I'm a big fan of the LEAP even considering the recall so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

[Higgins617]

I just like when anything new gets announced, it gets us all riled up here. It's a good time! I'm looking forward to  SHOT to see what they've cooked up.

[Monrogue]

I just like when anything new gets announced, it gets us all riled up here. It's a good time! I'm looking forward to  SHOT to see what they've cooked up.

+1

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[JAfromMn]

I can't wait.

I haven't been this excited for a tool to come out in a long time.

[AimlessWanderer]

I just like when anything new gets announced, it gets us all riled up here. It's a good time! I'm looking forward to  SHOT to see what they've cooked up.

I agree it's always nice to see new stuff coming to market, but based on previous experience, I'll be waiting for detailed pics AND unbiased feedback from someone on the forum before I consider buying any new stuff from them

[JAfromMn]

I just like when anything new gets announced, it gets us all riled up here. It's a good time! I'm looking forward to  SHOT to see what they've cooked up.

I agree it's always nice to see new stuff coming to market, but based on previous experience, I'll be waiting for detailed pics AND unbiased feedback from someone on the forum before I consider buying any new stuff from them

That's no way to be.

Life's a gamble.  I enjoy it.

[Ryo Saeba]

Going from the carabiner and hammer bits I guess it's going to be MUTlike.

[babola]

Going from the carabiner and hammer bits I guess it's going to be MUTlike.

And that's a good thing, right?   

Skeletonized tool design all the way 

[AimlessWanderer]

I just like when anything new gets announced, it gets us all riled up here. It's a good time! I'm looking forward to  SHOT to see what they've cooked up.

I agree it's always nice to see new stuff coming to market, but based on previous experience, I'll be waiting for detailed pics AND unbiased feedback from someone on the forum before I consider buying any new stuff from them

That's no way to be.

Life's a gamble.  I enjoy it.

I agree, but after a while you tend to get a feel for which gambles are more likely to bring happiness, and which are more likely to piss you off. So like I said, I'll hold off on this for pics and unbiased feedback 

[sawman]

IMO they set the bar pretty high with the Wave and Skeletool - two perfect tools. I've felt a little let down with many of their other tools.

[AimlessWanderer]

IMO they set the bar pretty high with the Wave and Skeletool - two perfect tools. I've felt a little let down with many of their other tools.

Totally agree on the Wave, but totally disagree on the Skele 

... and yes, I've been let down by several others too

[Kampfer]

 

[babola]

But you knew that already, right?

No surprises there...

[Kampfer]

there isn't.

[Syncop8r]

Perhaps the Skele is a perfect tool, it's just that Al's not the perfect user. 

[NKlamerus]

Still excited. As others stated I just hope it isn't gimmicky.

It's like getting a knife with a compass in the scale. Most of the time it won't work, or it doesn't spin. Lot of good that does!

[JBW1]

I just like when anything new gets announced, it gets us all riled up here. It's a good time! I'm looking forward to  SHOT to see what they've cooked up.

I agree it's always nice to see new stuff coming to market, but based on previous experience, I'll be waiting for detailed pics AND unbiased feedback from someone on the forum before I consider buying any new stuff from them

That's no way to be.

Life's a gamble.  I enjoy it.

I agree, but after a while you tend to get a feel for which gambles are more likely to bring happiness, and which are more likely to piss you off. So like I said, I'll hold off on this for pics and unbiased feedback 

Someone has to be the statistic, and guinea pig. And if it sucks well a one arm signal might be cool haha. I'm real wanting to see how they incorporate the sharpening rod? Maybe like the Klamath?

[babola]

Someone has to be the statistic, and guinea pig. And if it sucks well a one arm signal might be cool haha. I'm real wanting to see how they incorporate the sharpening rod? Maybe like the Klamath?

I thought about that too, but since everything so far points to a Skeletool/MUT design both the sharpening and firestarter rods could be incorporated instead of the long-size removable screwdriver bits on the MUT for example. They sit in their own 'cavity' and are easily accessible by 2-way push button.
Both the sharpening and firestarter rods should be removable too so should fit this theory well.

Who knows...

[TheDude]

I thni the sharpening rod and flint will replace the carbon scraper and C4 Punch in the Mut Platform.

[rdub934]

The signal is supposed to have an awl, I think. I figured the awl would replace the carbon scraper. There are plenty of little nooks and crannies for them to put things on a MUT chassis, though. So, who knows?

[comis]

Someone has to be the statistic, and guinea pig. And if it sucks well a one arm signal might be cool haha. I'm real wanting to see how they incorporate the sharpening rod? Maybe like the Klamath?

I thought about that too, but since everything so far points to a Skeletool/MUT design both the sharpening and firestarter rods could be incorporated instead of the long-size removable screwdriver bits on the MUT for example. They sit in their own 'cavity' and are easily accessible by 2-way push button.
Both the sharpening and firestarter rods should be removable too so should fit this theory well.

Who knows...

Please please please keep it:

-super light weight(skeletal to cut weight) and smallish medium size
-OHO spear-point beefy blade with scandi grind (note: not scandi-convex, real scandi grind, spear-point for making bow drill divot)
-hollow scales/scale hole to store needle and threads(think blisters)
-storage space for replaceable ferro rod or even ceramic rod(for sharpening)
-chisel and awl
-needle piler with replaceable cutter



Get rid of
-serrated blade
-bit adapters (or if necessary, just use one)
-4 outer slots for tools, only need the knife to be OHO, maybe the saw.  But file could be kept inside, and serrated blade could be eliminated.

[gadgetman7]

If you use the MUT platform and change the saw blade to the blade exchanger, the fire starter and sharpener could be designed to fit there. If they add an awl it should lock. I want them to keep the bit holder and long bits - at least one. If the frame could be made so that it's the size of a wave that would be better but it may be cost prohibitive since the MUT frame already exists. Finally, keep the knife at three inches but change the steel to either 154CPM or S35v. If that's to expensive, at least go to S30v.


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[Syncop8r]

OK, I'm going to upset some people here, but for survival why would you need:
- Pliers
- Bit Drivers

[babola]

Get rid of
-serrated blade
-bit adapters (or if necessary, just use one)
-4 outer slots for tools, only need the knife to be OHO, maybe the saw.  But file could be kept inside, and serrated blade could be eliminated.

Serrated blade will most likely stay. LM still believes in its practicality and usability for the outdoors environments. Also many others, myself included, find comfort in having secondary blade available on a tool, the one that cuts thru rope, flax foliage, canvas and other textiles with lesser effort than PE blade normally would.

I agree on 4 bits being unnecessary. MUT needed this simply by being a designated rifle maintenance tool. A single dual Phillips+Flat head bit should suffice for an Outdoor tool.

I prefer OHO, not just on home/garage tools but outdoor too. That's why I prefer Wave, Surge and MUT when out there tramping, camping and bushcrafting. There's still many other ways LM could design a storage on a skeleton-type tool for the the ferro and sharpener rods.

Chisel or a medium-sized scraper of sort would be good, let's hope it will see its light this time around. LM has been shy on this for a long time now