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Anyone suicidal enough? :D
on: December 02, 2014, 07:45:23 PM
http://www.[url=http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html]SPAMCORP.com/3-And-4-Paws-Foldable-Grappling-Hook-Climbing-Hook-Carabiner-EDC-Tool-p-938764.html[/url]

  :o :ahhh :D
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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 07:48:02 PM
Uhm...

No.  :facepalm:


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Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 08:17:47 PM
That would be great if I where Batman or Rorschach...


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Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 10:50:04 PM
Those look AWESOME!

Hey, Chako! You NEED those! Get them, and tell us how they are.


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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 12:16:19 AM
Those look AWESOME!

I agree.  :D

I know they are useless to me, but i still search for a reason to buy.  :think:
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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #5 on: December 03, 2014, 12:26:18 AM
3 And 4 Paws Foldable Grappling Hook Climbing Hook Carabiner EDC Tool

Is it just me or does anybody else fail to see this application :think:


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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 12:31:48 AM
Sorry, I can't get them. Me no Mall Ninja.  :mn:

Mind you, if they were in BO, that would crank up the radness to a fever pitch.
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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #7 on: December 03, 2014, 12:35:54 AM
3 And 4 Paws Foldable Grappling Hook Climbing Hook Carabiner EDC Tool

Is it just me or does anybody else fail to see this application :think:

I used grappling hooks alot as a kid.. but it was to drag the local rivers looking for treasure...  I made my own too from 12 inch spikes.  :D
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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #8 on: December 03, 2014, 01:40:23 AM
I don't see much use for a device of siege warfare.  Anyone dumb enough to trust that to climb deserves the open tib-fib fracture that comes with it. :facepalm:


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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #9 on: December 03, 2014, 02:02:23 AM
"Essential equipment for outdoor enthusiasts." 

Sorry, not remembering any point where I needed a grappling hook in my life......  :think:

Maybe I just need to think a bit more.  Damn!  :facepalm:
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Reply #10 on: December 03, 2014, 02:03:39 AM
C'mon guys! Where's your sense of ADVENTURE!

and by adventure, I mean urge to visit the emergency room.


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Reply #11 on: December 03, 2014, 02:07:32 AM
C'mon guys! Where's your sense of ADVENTURE!

and by adventure, I mean urge to visit the emergency room.

Fortunately for me, considerably diminished since I quit drinking......  ;)
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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 02:41:26 AM
Those look like a bad idea.


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Reply #13 on: December 03, 2014, 02:42:12 AM
I am more than willing to climb with adventurous anchors (v threads)


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But a grappling hook is just a bad idea :td:


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Reply #14 on: December 03, 2014, 04:55:04 AM
no thanks, i am not in shape to pull myself up with a rope.
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Reply #15 on: December 03, 2014, 09:12:17 AM
'EDC'  - extremely dumb crap?


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Reply #16 on: December 03, 2014, 11:38:44 AM
Uh, hello? Doesn't everyone EDC one of these for when you have to climb castle walls or delivering chocolates to beautiful ladies in secret cliff-top bases?

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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #17 on: December 03, 2014, 12:38:27 PM
But a grappling hook is just a bad idea :td:

In general? Or just those from the link above?
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Reply #18 on: December 03, 2014, 12:43:11 PM
Sorry, not remembering any point where I needed a grappling hook in my life......  :think:

"Needed" might be to much, but i remember situations (outdoors, not attacking medieval castles) where they would have been handy.

I just don´t do such stuff anymore.
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Reply #19 on: December 03, 2014, 01:22:02 PM
That would be great if I where Batman or Rorschach lighter...


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Reply #20 on: December 03, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
C'mon guys! Where's your sense of ADVENTURE!

and by adventure, I mean urge to visit the emergency room.
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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #21 on: December 03, 2014, 01:38:28 PM
Sorry, not remembering any point where I needed a grappling hook in my life......  :think:

"Needed" might be to much, but i remember situations (outdoors, not attacking medieval castles) where they would have been handy.

I just don´t do such stuff anymore.

Grappling hooks were used to pull DOWN stuff, not to climb up.  Too dangerous to climb.  Defenders can simply cut the rope and attackers have both hands occupied and are vulnerable.  Slap up a ladder and the attacker can have one hand free or even both hands free in some situations .  Plus, it's much harder for defenders to dislodge the ladder.



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Reply #22 on: December 03, 2014, 01:59:30 PM
Sorry, not remembering any point where I needed a grappling hook in my life......  :think:

"Needed" might be to much, but i remember situations (outdoors, not attacking medieval castles) where they would have been handy.

I just don´t do such stuff anymore.

Grappling hooks were used to pull DOWN stuff, not to climb up.  Too dangerous to climb.  Defenders can simply cut the rope and attackers have both hands occupied and are vulnerable.  Slap up a ladder and the attacker can have one hand free or even both hands free in some situations .  Plus, it's much harder for defenders to dislodge the ladder.

Hmmm, we were trained with them for urban combat.

Group gives covering fire to a buildings windows, one man (usually one of the lighter ones in the group) sneaks to the building. Throwing a handgrenade into the choosen window in a upper storage, then the grappling hook. Climbing up just under the window, auto fire into the room, going in. Securing the hook to ensure it´s fit for the more heavy comrades while securing the door. Second man climbs up, then the third ..... then searching and cleaning the building.

Off course that throwing the grenade and hook plus climbing and securing the room has to be done fast, too. No time for putting on any kind of climbing rig, just go up the doubleline ropes with knots every 30-40cm.

Ladders of different types were also trained, you use whats available and suits the situation best.


I would have loved to use them in situations like crossing a fast flowing river. As a securing thing. It´s one thing to have a rope on you that is hold by friends to pull you back if needed, but its nicer to have a second line already on the other side, to help you keep a little bit safe(r) stand, or pull yourself over while swimming.
It could help the first one crossing, then he can secure the rope on the other side to help the others.
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Reply #23 on: December 03, 2014, 02:09:47 PM
Sorry, not remembering any point where I needed a grappling hook in my life......  :think:

"Needed" might be to much, but i remember situations (outdoors, not attacking medieval castles) where they would have been handy.

I just don´t do such stuff anymore.

Grappling hooks were used to pull DOWN stuff, not to climb up.  Too dangerous to climb.  Defenders can simply cut the rope and attackers have both hands occupied and are vulnerable.  Slap up a ladder and the attacker can have one hand free or even both hands free in some situations .  Plus, it's much harder for defenders to dislodge the ladder.

Absolutely! I would never scale a castle wall with a grappling hook except in the dead of night with no guards at the top. In every other event I would use my seige engine backed up by trebuchet bombardment. Any other way is suicide.
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Reply #24 on: December 03, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
Grappling hooks were used a lot in the age of sail in ship to ship engagements, and for more practical day-to-day ship operations. Solid ones, though... not folding ones.

Also, I feel a strong need to append the character list to Batman, Rorshach, and Luke Skywalker. Just sayin'.



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Reply #25 on: December 03, 2014, 02:47:33 PM
Grappling hooks were used a lot in the age of sail in ship to ship engagements, and for more practical day-to-day ship operations. Solid ones, though... not folding ones.

Also, I feel a strong need to append the character list to Batman, Rorshach, and Luke Skywalker. Just sayin'.

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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #26 on: December 03, 2014, 03:29:24 PM
Grappling hooks were used a lot in the age of sail in ship to ship engagements, and for more practical day-to-day ship operations. Solid ones, though... not folding ones.

Also, I feel a strong need to append the character list to Batman, Rorshach, and Luke Skywalker. Just sayin'.

Yes, this too.  I don't know, folding and security seem almost mutually exclusive.

Hmmm, we were trained with them for urban combat.

Group gives covering fire to a buildings windows, one man (usually one of the lighter ones in the group) sneaks to the building. Throwing a handgrenade into the choosen window in a upper storage, then the grappling hook. Climbing up just under the window, auto fire into the room, going in. Securing the hook to ensure it´s fit for the more heavy comrades while securing the door. Second man climbs up, then the third ..... then searching and cleaning the building.

Off course that throwing the grenade and hook plus climbing and securing the room has to be done fast, too. No time for putting on any kind of climbing rig, just go up the doubleline ropes with knots every 30-40cm.

Ladders of different types were also trained, you use whats available and suits the situation best.


I would have loved to use them in situations like crossing a fast flowing river. As a securing thing. It´s one thing to have a rope on you that is hold by friends to pull you back if needed, but its nicer to have a second line already on the other side, to help you keep a little bit safe(r) stand, or pull yourself over while swimming.
It could help the first one crossing, then he can secure the rope on the other side to help the others.

Interesting.  Never would have believed that was a preferred method of scaling a wall.  At least for me, you couldn't pay me enough to take that risk.  :o


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Reply #27 on: December 03, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
At least for me, you couldn't pay me enough to take that risk.  :o

Given a low enough window, and a high enough payday, I'd do it.

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Re: Anyone suicidal enough? :D
Reply #28 on: December 03, 2014, 03:55:06 PM
At least for me, you couldn't pay me enough to take that risk.  :o

Given a low enough window, and a high enough payday, I'd do it.

Second story window.
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Would you do it for two hundred million?
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Unlike many other people, I CAN be bought. Heck, for two hundred million, I'd sing the praises of the Engage MT! :D

Fair enough.  :D


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Reply #29 on: December 03, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
At least for me, you couldn't pay me enough to take that risk.  :o

Given a low enough window, and a high enough payday, I'd do it.

Second story window.
Would you do it for a thousand?
Lynn: Are you crazy?
Would you do it for two hundred million?
Lynn: Up I go!!!!

Unlike many other people, I CAN be bought. Heck, for two hundred million, I'd sing the praises of the Engage MT! :D

Fair enough.  :D
Hell, for 200 million, I would scale the wall without a rope and hook.
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