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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #360 on: May 04, 2010, 02:47:05 AM
I will be doing a lot more work on this in the coming days, and (time permitting) will do an explanatory article here and on my blog, and maybe even a Youtube video to accompany it all in the next few days.

Most of you guys will know what it all means anyway I'm sure :)

I currently have 23 PSTs in my possession as I seem to have traded loads away lately  :ahhh - but here is my:

PST List @ 3rd May 2010

I need to adjust it slightly, as I've subsequently noticed that the stamping on the lower, reverse handles can vary to show the Reg TM etc too (so I need to add another column or two to the spreadsheet). But, it's a start :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #361 on: May 04, 2010, 03:03:43 AM
nice listing..23 :o

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #362 on: May 04, 2010, 03:11:33 AM
I had 30 a few weeks ago  :think:

But I didn't part with any that I didn't have duplicates of, I'm sure of that ;)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #363 on: May 04, 2010, 03:19:00 AM
Dave that looks like alot of hard work. But a lot of useful information.     :tu:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #364 on: May 04, 2010, 03:24:54 AM
Well, it's a start. I don't know about you, but I can't remember what I have and don't have, so I needed to list them anyway, but now that I have I can start to categorise and highlight the differences a bit.

The closer you look, the more you notice differences in blade shapes, drivers and so on. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I've identified a 4th blade shape, sort of half way between the "Sabre" and the final clip point shape. I'll have another look tomorrow, but I have two that possibly fall into that category.

I started logging the files according to your discovery about single / double cut teeth, and may have spotted something new there too - more work to be done!
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #365 on: May 04, 2010, 04:38:34 AM
Wow, there's a lot of info contained in that spreadsheet Dave. :salute: Hopefully JoeBW will stop by, as he has put together a similar spreadsheet on his PST's.  :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #366 on: May 04, 2010, 05:52:40 AM
Quote from: DaveK on May 04, 2010, 03:24:54 AM
Well, it's a start. I don't know about you, but I can't remember what I have and don't have, so I needed to list them anyway, but now that I have I can start to categorise and highlight the differences a bit.

The closer you look, the more you notice differences in blade shapes, drivers and so on. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I've identified a 4th blade shape, sort of half way between the "Sabre" and the final clip point shape. I'll have another look tomorrow, but I have two that possibly fall into that category.

I started logging the files according to your discovery about single / double cut teeth, and may have spotted something new there too - more work to be done!

It gets harder all the time.

Your right about that.

Looking forward to see what you determine on the blade shape.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #367 on: May 05, 2010, 03:35:40 AM
Yeah, I need to get focussed!

I've started typing, and will try to cover everything, but it might take me a while. I'm trying to make it a History article, rather than just reeling off what I have / haven't got, a sort of consolidated version of this thread really, with bits that I've noticed myself and on other threads here all included.

With pics of course.

I'm doing it on my blog initially but will try and do a "forum version" too, and maybe a version for the Wiki. It depends how easy it is to reformat the pics so it all stays legible. It's going to be quite long I think.....
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #368 on: May 05, 2010, 09:40:29 PM
i think there might be 3 different phillips drivers at least?

this is me guessing, the one on my pst is as you know dave the old sort centered and quite pointy the one on my sideclip, which im presuming was used on psts too? its a off centred one thats quite blunt is there a off centered pointy one ?
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #369 on: May 05, 2010, 09:52:28 PM
I shall have a look as I go through Ryan :tu:

In the meantime, tell me what you think of this as a diagram:

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Reply #370 on: May 05, 2010, 09:53:28 PM
i like it, well thought out  :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #371 on: May 05, 2010, 09:54:56 PM
Good work Dave.  :tu:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #372 on: May 05, 2010, 09:57:15 PM
The pic is to make the words make sense when I start going on about plier markings and fasteners and Had wire cutter notch etc.

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Reply #373 on: May 05, 2010, 10:00:55 PM
i was going to say put knurled screw instead of fastener, but then thats not what was always used so i say it would be great for someone who     has not come across a pst before
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #374 on: May 05, 2010, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: ryan1835 on May 05, 2010, 10:00:55 PM
i was going to say put knurled screw instead of fastener, but then thats not what was always used so i say it would be great for someone who     has not come across a pst before

Exactly! You got your screws, hollow screws, rivets and hollow rivets (that we know about)!
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Reply #375 on: May 05, 2010, 10:07:08 PM
what about the hollow rivetd screws?
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #376 on: May 05, 2010, 10:17:22 PM
..and the screwed rivets?
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Reply #377 on: May 05, 2010, 10:22:31 PM
 :D

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #378 on: May 06, 2010, 04:55:59 AM
Great idea with the demo picture Dave!  :tu:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #379 on: May 06, 2010, 01:43:19 PM
Quote from: DaveK on May 05, 2010, 09:52:28 PM
I shall have a look as I go through Ryan :tu:

In the meantime, tell me what you think of this as a diagram:

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thats great Dave, just printing it out  :tu:

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #380 on: May 06, 2010, 02:02:46 PM
I'll send you a bill for the royalties Paul ;)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #381 on: May 06, 2010, 02:11:58 PM
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I'll send you a bill for the royalties Paul ;)

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #382 on: May 06, 2010, 10:55:09 PM
Very comprehensive Dave :o Will be a great help in determining age of some PSTs that otherwise would just be educated guesses at best :D Can't wait to see it all when completely finished :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #383 on: May 06, 2010, 11:42:11 PM
It's coming along, but I'm not happy with the pictures I'm getting at the moment. Need to fix up my lamps or wait until the weekend and get outside I think :-\

The wordy bits are coming together though :tu:

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #384 on: May 07, 2010, 09:05:21 AM
Looks really good Dave , I'm looking to expand my PST collection so this will be a great help  :tu:

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #385 on: May 07, 2010, 10:15:04 PM
It's funny looking back to 2 years ago how little we really knew about the PST until a few threads like this 1 shed so much light on them :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #386 on: May 11, 2010, 03:10:13 AM
Well, I'm starting to think I imagined the 4th blade type  :think:

I'm sticking with three for now, but who knows :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #387 on: May 11, 2010, 03:30:27 AM
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Well, I'm starting to think I imagined the 4th blade type  :think:

I'm sticking with three for now, but who knows :D

Were you thinking of a PST II combo blade perhaps? :think:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #388 on: May 11, 2010, 04:01:40 AM
No, it was a bit more subtle than that.

I thought I'd spotted a sort of "halfway" between the sabre and the final clip point blades, not quite the usual one or the other. But it was late, so maybe I was just tired - very odd :-\
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #389 on: May 26, 2010, 09:43:59 PM
At the meet on Saturday, I saw a PST that belonged to Tony that was every bit as interesting as I'd hoped.

I'd asked Tony to bring it along, based on some comments he'd made about it on another thread some time ago - I suspected it might be a bit special....



As you can see, it's unused as Tony received it as a gift from his parents in the late 80s. Consequently, it has no date codes (pre-1992)......



It has the "saber blade" and tools that are consistent with a late 80s PST, but has both cm and inches on the ruler - this would suggest a very late 80s model with the metric scale on there.



BUT - this PST has the original plier heads, without any TOOL or USA markings, as used on the early PSTs. I haven't seen this plier head on a tool that doesn't also have the drop point blade, old style awl etc. Has anyone else?

The fact that it is still with its original box too made me want to throw it in the back of the Landrover and clear off with it - but Tony's a big bloke :D

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