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Identify this SAK

Offline GeneralGlenn

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Identify this SAK
on: December 24, 2015, 03:55:20 PM
Hi guys, I'm new here and I joined for the fun that is Swiss army knives and to identify a SAK I recently bought from a guy on the internet who knew nothing about it.

This is her:






The stamps are clear and crisp, but the photos don't capture it properly.

It's, as is clear by the pictures, a Victorinox knife with a big blade, clip blade and a saw in the 84 mm frame.
The tang stamps are there, the old cross is inlaid in the scales and it's decently snappy considering it's age.

Now for the funny bits. I can't find it on the internet and there are some minor things that are a little weird. The blades both have a small swedge, and have very minor grind lines and are generally not as polished as my other SAKs. The main blade is also slightly thicker than on my other 84 mm SAKs, and the ends of the blade (the part that meets with the spring when in the open position) is also not completely polished. The scales are slightly lighter in colour (perhaps due to sunlight) and there are no tweezers and toothpick. It it however identical in size and shape compared to my other SAKs, scales included.

So, do I have a very good imitation, a highly sought after collectible, or just an old SAK?

Any information is welcome.

Thanks


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Re: Identify this SAK
Reply #1 on: December 24, 2015, 04:05:39 PM
Maybe a modified economy lumberjack?

Or maybe this one only someone replaced the scales with slightly newer ones?
« Last Edit: December 24, 2015, 04:08:38 PM by glenfiddich1983 »
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Re: Identify this SAK
Reply #2 on: December 24, 2015, 04:58:03 PM
Wow nice SAK and welcome to the board.
Jeep the SAK of the auto world or is it SAK the Jeep of the Knife world?


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Re: Identify this SAK
Reply #3 on: December 24, 2015, 05:17:44 PM
Maybe a modified economy lumberjack?

Or maybe this one only someone replaced the scales with slightly newer ones?

This ^^^^^^  a Victorinox-Elinox Vintage 84mm w/ Woodsaw!
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Re: Identify this SAK
Reply #4 on: December 24, 2015, 05:42:06 PM
Hi and welcome :tu:

Without adding much to what the guys have said,it's Elinox and Cellidor,so no newer than '76, the small blade has a clip point,so that's pre73...

As to model and value,with respect to the guys who've already posted,I'm sure one of the gurus will be along soon :tu:

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Re: Identify this SAK
Reply #5 on: December 24, 2015, 06:55:24 PM
Thanks guys! I knew this was the place to go to find out:D

I'm not looking to sell it, but I'd like to know the value so that I can either appreciate it through use or through glass.

Considering the idea of a mod, the scales are not on completely tight, and with a magnifying glass and a torch I was able to see that the pins are completely clean and intact, no tool marks, no weird looking dents, just tight as we're used from Victorinox.

Looks like I found a little gem:D


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Re: Identify this SAK
Reply #6 on: December 24, 2015, 08:09:39 PM
This is a Model 1240k from c. 1958. It doesn't officially have a name, although many collectors will call it a "Lumberjack" after the model with a combo tool that came out later.

This knife would have been a part of Victorinox's then-new "economy" Elinox line of knives. Elinox knives were made to be less expensive than the flagship "Victoria" line and some cost cutting measures were implemented. Most notably, none of the tools went through the polishing stage, which at the time was still partially a manual process. As a result you can still see the machine grinding marks in the tools, especially the large and small blades. The aluminum dividers were also not anodized, and the scale material was a cheaper grade of celidor so it has a bright red appearance to it, versus the dark crimson of the scales used on Victoria line knives of the same era.

Value? This model - without a bail - will typically sell for about $25. Models with a bail will sell for $50. 


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Re: Identify this SAK
Reply #7 on: December 24, 2015, 08:23:10 PM
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Re: Identify this SAK
Reply #8 on: December 24, 2015, 08:24:18 PM
This is a Model 1240k from c. 1958. It doesn't officially have a name, although many collectors will call it a "Lumberjack" after the model with a combo tool that came out later.

This knife would have been a part of Victorinox's then-new "economy" Elinox line of knives. Elinox knives were made to be less expensive than the flagship "Victoria" line and some cost cutting measures were implemented. Most notably, none of the tools went through the polishing stage, which at the time was still partially a manual process. As a result you can still see the machine grinding marks in the tools, especially the large and small blades. The aluminum dividers were also not anodized, and the scale material was a cheaper grade of celidor so it has a bright red appearance to it, versus the dark crimson of the scales used on Victoria line knives of the same era.

Value? This model - without a bail - will typically sell for about $25. Models with a bail will sell for $50.
Thanks very much! That's more detail than I expected:)

Considering what I paid for it (€23) It was a fair deal.

It'll make a good story in the future too, so thanks, again!


 

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