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wales Offline caninesapien

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Keychain MT with philips driver?
on: January 26, 2017, 11:13:36 AM
What's the general consensus on keychain MTs with phillips screwdrivers? I was thinking of getting a Style PS or a Gerber Dime (mostly due to price) but if there's another, similar, tool with the addition of a phillips driver I'd be keen to hear about it. I've seen stuff like the Gerber Vise but heard bad things about it so I'm not sure whether to give that a try. Also it seems like the Leatherman Micra doesn't have a "proper" phillips head. Is that right?  Do you have any suggestions?

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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #1 on: January 26, 2017, 11:33:03 AM
Do you really need the small pliers?  If no, just get a 58mm SAK like minichamp, rambler,  manager. They have a little decent magnetized Philip.

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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #2 on: January 26, 2017, 11:42:00 AM
I can't talk about other keychain MT's as I have none but I can tell you a 58mm SAK like the Rambler can handle a wide range of (+) screws with its #1 Phillips and the flat screwdriver on the nail file. :)
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #3 on: January 26, 2017, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: aurabattler on January 26, 2017, 11:33:03 AM
Do you really need the small pliers?  If no, just get a 58mm SAK like minichamp, rambler,  manager. They have a little decent magnetized Philip.

Sorry, should have mentioned that I was looking for the pliers as well! Basically, small MT with pliers and phillips!
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Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #4 on: January 26, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Can't complain about the Squirt... a bit heavy though... That's why I got me a Style PS



For their small size, I find they grip better than SAK pliers...

These are a good combo to the minichamp/rambler... Agree with everyone above, the Phillips on the 58mm SAKS are good...


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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #5 on: January 26, 2017, 12:20:12 PM
Stick a Gerber Shard on your keys.  Shard + Style PS is a very good (and airline friendly) keychain combo.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #6 on: January 26, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Can't complain about the Squirt... a bit heavy though... That's why I got me a Style PS

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For their small size, I find they grip better than SAK pliers...

These are a good combo to the minichamp/rambler... Agree with everyone above, the Phillips on the 58mm SAKS are good...


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Style PS + Rambler = Heavier than Squirt PS4  :pok:

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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #7 on: January 26, 2017, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: hiraethus on January 26, 2017, 12:20:12 PM
Stick a Gerber Shard on your keys.  Shard + Style PS is a very good (and airline friendly) keychain combo.
Now that's an interesting combo H... :cheers:


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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #8 on: January 26, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 26, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Can't complain about the Squirt... a bit heavy though... That's why I got me a Style PS

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For their small size, I find they grip better than SAK pliers...

These are a good combo to the minichamp/rambler... Agree with everyone above, the Phillips on the 58mm SAKS are good...


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Style PS + Rambler = Heavier than Squirt PS4  :pok:
Minichamp + Style PS  lighter than Minichamp + Squirt PS4 :facepalm: :cheers:


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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #9 on: January 26, 2017, 12:26:43 PM
Thanks for the information all. Speaking of the pliers, is the best I can hope for between £20-£40 going to be a Style PS? If so, I may grab one today. I have the phillips head on my SAK Hiker but I don't carry that everywhere (I avoid taking it to work)
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #10 on: January 26, 2017, 12:57:44 PM
Best keychain tool with pliers, probably yes but they're not without their faults.  They're pricey - though you can get them at Blacks/Millets for £28 at the moment.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #11 on: January 26, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
What about a 4-in-1 utilikey or a Quatro driver + lightest keychain pliers MT?



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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #12 on: January 26, 2017, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: hiraethus on January 26, 2017, 12:57:44 PM
Best keychain tool with pliers, probably yes but they're not without their faults.  They're pricey - though you can get them at Blacks/Millets for £28 at the moment.

That's what got me thinking about them - saw them reduced in Blacks last night.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #13 on: January 26, 2017, 01:56:07 PM
Quote from: ThePeacent on January 26, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
What about a 4-in-1 utilikey or a Quatro driver + lightest keychain pliers MT?

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The utilikey looks good - hadn't seen it before.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #14 on: January 26, 2017, 02:58:35 PM
I dont have a PS Style but I did carry aCS Style daily before I got my Pioneer X. The driver was quite effective from what I used it for. Being longer than the one on the squirt or Dime I found it very useful. If you need a larger Philips, I find the Shards driver very adequate.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #15 on: January 26, 2017, 03:06:38 PM
the Dime is OKish, but the squirts are in a totally different league, and cost more.

only get the dime if you use the bottle opener a lot.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #16 on: January 26, 2017, 08:14:52 PM
Bahco MTT121 has one close to rambler size, but not magnetized. If you blow away the polish, its good.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #17 on: January 27, 2017, 12:30:45 AM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 26, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Can't complain about the Squirt... a bit heavy though... That's why I got me a Style PS

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For their small size, I find they grip better than SAK pliers...

These are a good combo to the minichamp/rambler... Agree with everyone above, the Phillips on the 58mm SAKS are good...


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 ???

Style PS + Rambler = Heavier than Squirt PS4  :pok:
Minichamp + Style PS  lighter than Minichamp + Squirt PS4 :facepalm: :cheers:


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Too much redundancy

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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #18 on: January 27, 2017, 02:00:26 AM
Quote from: dks on January 26, 2017, 03:06:38 PM
the Dime is OKish, but the squirts are in a totally different league, and cost more.

only get the dime if you use the bottle opener a lot.

I've had Squirt P4 and PS4 for years.  Just got a Dime.  Pretty comparable.

$20 for a Dime, $30 for a squirt.  Can't really go wrong either way.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #19 on: January 27, 2017, 02:26:11 AM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 27, 2017, 12:30:45 AM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 26, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Can't complain about the Squirt... a bit heavy though... That's why I got me a Style PS

(Image removed from quote.)

For their small size, I find they grip better than SAK pliers...

These are a good combo to the minichamp/rambler... Agree with everyone above, the Phillips on the 58mm SAKS are good...


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 ???

Style PS + Rambler = Heavier than Squirt PS4  :pok:
Minichamp + Style PS  lighter than Minichamp + Squirt PS4 :facepalm: :cheers:


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Too much redundancy
Sometimes redundancy is good... especially in small packages... ah ah ah :cheers:


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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #20 on: January 27, 2017, 08:34:07 AM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 27, 2017, 02:26:11 AM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 27, 2017, 12:30:45 AM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 26, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Can't complain about the Squirt... a bit heavy though... That's why I got me a Style PS

(Image removed from quote.)

For their small size, I find they grip better than SAK pliers...

These are a good combo to the minichamp/rambler... Agree with everyone above, the Phillips on the 58mm SAKS are good...


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 ???

Style PS + Rambler = Heavier than Squirt PS4  :pok:
Minichamp + Style PS  lighter than Minichamp + Squirt PS4 :facepalm: :cheers:


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Too much redundancy
Sometimes redundancy is good... especially in small packages... ah ah ah :cheers:


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If you eliminate the key bar you will save weight and bulkiness.
That thing is huge and ugly as hell

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Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #21 on: January 27, 2017, 09:47:11 AM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 27, 2017, 08:34:07 AM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 27, 2017, 02:26:11 AM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 27, 2017, 12:30:45 AM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: alexTOOL on January 26, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on January 26, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Can't complain about the Squirt... a bit heavy though... That's why I got me a Style PS

(Image removed from quote.)

For their small size, I find they grip better than SAK pliers...

These are a good combo to the minichamp/rambler... Agree with everyone above, the Phillips on the 58mm SAKS are good...


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 ???

Style PS + Rambler = Heavier than Squirt PS4  :pok:
Minichamp + Style PS  lighter than Minichamp + Squirt PS4 :facepalm: :cheers:


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Too much redundancy
Sometimes redundancy is good... especially in small packages... ah ah ah :cheers:


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If you eliminate the key bar you will save weight and bulkiness.
That thing is huge and ugly as hell
Ahhh, here's the thing... it is heavy, that I will admit... But if I clip it to my side pockets, they weigh almost none. This is me though...

Didn't you use a key-bar? I thought that I read somewhere you missed it... :pok:
:cheers:


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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #22 on: January 27, 2017, 10:46:02 AM
Quote from: smiller43147 on January 27, 2017, 02:00:26 AM
Quote from: dks on January 26, 2017, 03:06:38 PM
the Dime is OKish, but the squirts are in a totally different league, and cost more.

only get the dime if you use the bottle opener a lot.

I've had Squirt P4 and PS4 for years.  Just got a Dime.  Pretty comparable.

$20 for a Dime, $30 for a squirt.  Can't really go wrong either way.

Thanks. Is the Squirt discontinued now? I have an Amazon voucher from Christmas and I just keep going back to look at the Dime...
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #23 on: January 27, 2017, 12:36:52 PM
Quote from: smiller43147 on January 27, 2017, 02:00:26 AM
Quote from: dks on January 26, 2017, 03:06:38 PM
the Dime is OKish, but the squirts are in a totally different league, and cost more.

only get the dime if you use the bottle opener a lot.

I've had Squirt P4 and PS4 for years.  Just got a Dime.  Pretty comparable.

$20 for a Dime, $30 for a squirt.  Can't really go wrong either way.

Just saw that. Let me clarify what i mean. The dime is really, really bad, quality wise. There are several threads in this forum listing the issues with them, like falling apart, the pliers spring breaking etc, from when they were first introduced. They do not seem to have improved it since.
The squirt is a much more solid and reliable tool. I have used both. Yes the dime can be found for half the price of the Squirts, and it has a great bottle opener.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #24 on: January 27, 2017, 12:49:43 PM
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #25 on: January 27, 2017, 12:56:12 PM
Someone kindly gifted me a Gerber dime a few years back which lasted a couple of weeks before the pliers broke at the pivot during some (very) light work.

I then bought a Squirt from Kirky which was an excellent purchase. I'd recommend spending a bit more on the Leatherman - really nice keychain tool.

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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #26 on: January 28, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
yeah forget about Dime and get a Squirt. I broke 2 dimes in 3 months, but still have 4 Squirts in perfect condition.  :salute:
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #27 on: January 28, 2017, 06:11:09 PM
Quote from: caninesapien on January 26, 2017, 11:13:36 AM
What's the general consensus on keychain MTs with phillips screwdrivers? I was thinking of getting a Style PS or a Gerber Dime (mostly due to price) but if there's another, similar, tool with the addition of a phillips driver I'd be keen to hear about it. I've seen stuff like the Gerber Vise but heard bad things about it so I'm not sure whether to give that a try. Also it seems like the Leatherman Micra doesn't have a "proper" phillips head. Is that right?  Do you have any suggestions?

THanks!

What about a Style PS and a Screwpop, that should satisfy all your needs.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #28 on: January 28, 2017, 06:43:22 PM
I've always loved the looks of the Phillips on the LM Squirt E4.  You're compromising on the pliers more than a bit, but it depends on what you'd be using them for.  The fact it's discontinued might be a sticking point as well. :D

I'll be honest and say that I'm not much of a fan of the screwdriver/nail file on the Styles.  Too much flex in them to inspire much confidence IMO.
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Re: Keychain MT with philips driver?
Reply #29 on: January 29, 2017, 12:25:38 PM
Quote from: Gareth on January 28, 2017, 06:43:22 PM
I've always loved the looks of the Phillips on the LM Squirt E4.  You're compromising on the pliers more than a bit, but it depends on what you'd be using them for.  The fact it's discontinued might be a sticking point as well. :D

I'll be honest and say that I'm not much of a fan of the screwdriver/nail file on the Styles.  Too much flex in them to inspire much confidence IMO.

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