Quote from: zoidberg on July 02, 2017, 11:55:17 PMWelcome to the boards five. Thank you Pablo. I poke around a couple other blade or edge forums and I'm looking forward to learning here. I like the vibe already!
Welcome to the boards five.
Pretty intense. I dont know the answer for you but this is worth watching. https://youtu.be/q3_HEKMgqbE
I had an 8-week open water scuba certification course. I did 'buddy-breathing' with a 12-year-old kid that panicked, and snatched the respirator out of my mouth before i got a breath in our sharing cycle. I had a moment of panic, but I calmed right down. I guess I MADE myself calm right down. That was in a clean, clear swimming pool. Things probably get a lot scarier in murky, and potentially frigid water.Luckily I'm fat, so I'm well insulated, and bob like a cork. Also... we have ResQMe's on our car keys.
I heard you can administer a sharp slap to a panicking person to make them regain their senses. Probably doesn't work underwater, but just sayin'.
A woman trapped with her two sons in a car after a dramatic crash managed to cut her seatbelt, smash a window and free them all - thanks to a low-cost rescue tool.The Warkworth woman, identified only by her first name Mel, said the rescue could not have happened without the Resqme device she carries on her keyring - which includes a blade and a spring-loaded spike to break side windows.Now she is encouraging others to be prepared in case of an emergency...
Police are getting new tools to save them vital seconds in life-and-death rescues.The change was prompted by the rescue of a woman from a sinking car in Auckland. The two officers involved had to ask a Fairfax photographer to pass them a rock after they failed to smash the car windows with their batons.A total of 7900 "Resqme" spring-loaded glass-breaking tools, costing only $10 each, will now be issued to frontline officers nationwide. They can be attached by a keyring to the officers' belts.
I recall a conversation about the laminate windows in vehicles? While the spring loaded device works well, I have a spring loaded center punch in my vehicle, I recall it may not be effective on laminate glass? FMVSS 226 occupant ejection mitigation requiring laminated side glass in all 2017 vehicles ( from net ).
it really pays to figure out what kind of glass was used in your car (especially outside of the US, where there is no regulation (yet)).ResqMe has a good video on that topichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oZokI0UrHI&t=7s
Soo; that means the 2015 Ford Escape (basically a Kuga for those of you outside of NA) my folks have has laminated glass. So, guess that means I'll need to pick up a Rescue Tool.
Since the thread is about Submerged/Flooded vehicle I'm afraid time is of essence. Getting out of the vehicle quickly is going to be rather tricky. Not sure kicking out windshield would be very effective or possible. As to what tools in an accident to assist you or others not submerged or flooded? Depending on the situation time may still be a factor. If vehicle is on fire for example. I have a spring loaded center punch in my vehicle. I also have gloves at the ready. The idea of a submerged vehicle really scares me whether me or someone I am trying to help.
- anything else?https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=MAaOEwPrXbA
a loaded handgun
This is a serious consideration.I once had a talk with a fireman that just returned from a scene with a crashed Seat. The car was front first in a ditch with water and rubble. Because if the laminated and plastic windows they could not use a window smasher and had to cut open the car with one of these... (Image removed from quote.)Where this takes the firemen an unnecesary long time to get in a vehicle it also means that the driver isn't always able to get out of a car.Keep this in mind.By the way, the ResqueTool has a window saw. This is for cutting laminated front windows.
And today's cars are tough to access even using hydraulic rescue equipment. Today's hydraulic rescue tools are designed to pry and cut today's modern automotive materials (such as boron steel). Older sets aren't engineered to handle these materials and design, but departments can't afford them, and in some cases, are stuck with first generation sets from the '70s and '80s. Jaws of Life/Hydraulic Rescue sets these days are in the $50,000 range, and most departments simply can't afford that. Around here, funding exists, but is going to tourism and business ventures instead of where needed.I know of front line trucks that date to the '70s. My town's heavy rescue is close to 30 years old; and their crash truck 15.
Also, cutting the beams (holding the roof) almost requires a EOD team with the high possibility of airbags in place. Cutting one can make them co pop, endangering the fireman or the passengers.I don't envy firemen these days.