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Leatherman on-board ISS ??

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Leatherman on-board ISS ??
on: March 27, 2017, 01:56:55 PM
Hi guys,
Look closely at what Thomas Pesquet is about use to cut his favourite French cheese on board ISS...
Can you tell ?

I say Wave by the look of the blade :)...but not sure.
cheers
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #1 on: March 27, 2017, 01:59:10 PM
If they were using LM it would have been written o his T-shirt  :)
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #2 on: March 28, 2017, 04:51:49 AM
Hi guys,
Look closely at what Thomas Pesquet is about use to cut his favourite French cheese on board ISS...
Can you tell ?
(Image removed from quote.)
I say Wave by the look of the blade :)...but not sure.
cheers
Alex
I vote Wave


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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 05:28:55 PM
$150000 for taking that tool into space... Did he pay that weight by himself or did the taxpayers do that?
Oh well... they took half ton of football jerseys to space too, it was millions.
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #5 on: March 29, 2017, 05:53:14 PM
$150000 for taking that tool into space... Did he pay that weight by himself or did the taxpayers do that?
Oh well... they took half ton of football jerseys to space too, it was millions.
Each astronaut can take up a kilo of personal effects for free.

Besides, its worth it if its useful, right?
Why else did NASA keep Victorinox SAKs on the Space Shuttle?

Its like the guitar that they brought up in the Shuttle era. Expensive, but if playing the guitar helps keep the astronauts calm, its worth it.

Remember the space oddity video that Chris Hadfield made while on the ISS using that guitar? That most likely did more in public outreach than millions spent on educational stuff about space.  :D
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #6 on: March 29, 2017, 06:16:59 PM
$150000 for taking that tool into space... Did he pay that weight by himself or did the taxpayers do that?
Oh well... they took half ton of football jerseys to space too, it was millions.
Each astronaut can take up a kilo of personal effects for free.

Besides, its worth it if its useful, right?
Why else did NASA keep Victorinox SAKs on the Space Shuttle?

Its like the guitar that they brought up in the Shuttle era. Expensive, but if playing the guitar helps keep the astronauts calm, its worth it.

Remember the space oddity video that Chris Hadfield made while on the ISS using that guitar? That most likely did more in public outreach than millions spent on educational stuff about space.  :D

Its just the cost/usefulness ratio that is really bad.
You do know that normal tools are useless for actually making "real" repairs in space? If you turn the screw on the ship/station, you actually turn the ship/station or yourself before the screw if it has some friction to it. It is even dangerous to change the ships orbit like this. Everything weights zero see?
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #7 on: March 29, 2017, 06:49:47 PM
$150000 for taking that tool into space... Did he pay that weight by himself or did the taxpayers do that?
Oh well... they took half ton of football jerseys to space too, it was millions.
Each astronaut can take up a kilo of personal effects for free.

Besides, its worth it if its useful, right?
Why else did NASA keep Victorinox SAKs on the Space Shuttle?

Its like the guitar that they brought up in the Shuttle era. Expensive, but if playing the guitar helps keep the astronauts calm, its worth it.

Remember the space oddity video that Chris Hadfield made while on the ISS using that guitar? That most likely did more in public outreach than millions spent on educational stuff about space.  :D

Its just the cost/usefulness ratio that is really bad.
You do know that normal tools are useless for actually making "real" repairs in space? If you turn the screw on the ship/station, you actually turn the ship/station or yourself before the screw if it has some friction to it. It is even dangerous to change the ships orbit like this. Everything weights zero see?
 :D
Erm.. Are you joking or not?  :think:

If you brace yourself against the space station, you will not turn.

And since the space station weighs tons and it is the size of a football field, basic Inertia will prevent the space station from turning when you screw.

Think of it like this, if the space station does not move when you push hard on a wall and go floating around, why would it move when you turn a little screw?
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #8 on: March 29, 2017, 09:20:20 PM
$150000 for taking that tool into space... Did he pay that weight by himself or did the taxpayers do that?
Oh well... they took half ton of football jerseys to space too, it was millions.
Each astronaut can take up a kilo of personal effects for free.

Besides, its worth it if its useful, right?
Why else did NASA keep Victorinox SAKs on the Space Shuttle?

Its like the guitar that they brought up in the Shuttle era. Expensive, but if playing the guitar helps keep the astronauts calm, its worth it.

Remember the space oddity video that Chris Hadfield made while on the ISS using that guitar? That most likely did more in public outreach than millions spent on educational stuff about space.  :D

Its just the cost/usefulness ratio that is really bad.
You do know that normal tools are useless for actually making "real" repairs in space? If you turn the screw on the ship/station, you actually turn the ship/station or yourself before the screw if it has some friction to it. It is even dangerous to change the ships orbit like this. Everything weights zero see?
 :D
Erm.. Are you joking or not?  :think:

If you brace yourself against the space station, you will not turn.

And since the space station weighs tons and it is the size of a football field, basic Inertia will prevent the space station from turning when you screw.

Think of it like this, if the space station does not move when you push hard on a wall and go floating around, why would it move when you turn a little screw?

?
Hmm?
Of course I'm not joking. It has been said, that if you actually push station with your hands, you push it away from you as much as it pushes you away from it.
Zero weight again, 0-G, you both weight as much.
NASA said that they have to actually do corrections to the orbit to counter this, and it is the reason of motorized tools (counter rotating), like drivers, on board.

They use basic gas basically to maneuver anyways. Remember that the direction of the ship doesnt change, just its orientation on the orbit and this might affect too much to its altitude to make it break back to earths atmosphere, right?
Space has no inertia like earth, more like centrifugal force, away from Earth. What is weightless, is weightless, the reason they could carry cars in moon just like that, even with a lot of old technology batteries and four electric engines on it.
Sure you can anchor yourself on any surface using velcro or similar and thus preventing yourself from turning around the screw as you screw it, but this creates stress on the centrifugal force and creates coriolis effect that can lead to unwanted stray from the height of the station. You weight as much as the station, the screw weights as much as you and the station do, only the size of objects change.

Naah, who knows.  :rofl:
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #9 on: March 29, 2017, 09:42:17 PM
Sources?

The ISS is so much bigger than any astronaut or screw that it moves like 1mm.
A tiny small amount when you consider that it falls by 100m per day due to earths atmosphere dragging it.


Think of the way the earth moves when you jump, same thing, except it moves by 0.0000001mm or something like that.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2017, 09:44:07 PM by Pablo O'Brien »
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #10 on: April 10, 2017, 06:38:08 PM
Some of you are getting weight confused with mass.

It's easy to get them confused on Earth, because in our one g, mass and weight are equal.

But mass is a fixed property of an object, whereas weight is a variable effect of gravity.

In orbit, there's a tiny little bit of gravity so it's not completely accurate to say there's no weight. But it's so small that we can ignore it for practicality. But what hasn't changed, and what can't be ignored, is mass.

What also can't be ignored are basic physical laws, such as for every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction.

If you apply torque to a screw that is not absolutely free to turn, some of the torque will be applied to whatever the screw is attached to. In the case of the space station itself, the mass is so great compared to the relatively minuscule amount of torque you can apply that the effect is negligible, so small as to be practically meaningless. Now maybe over time, with many screws being turned one way and none ever being turned the opposite way, the effects add up enough to require correction.


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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #11 on: April 10, 2017, 07:13:00 PM
I don't think they are worried about the effects of tool use in the ISS given to tool kit that is provided

http://toolguyd.com/iss-toolbox-tools/
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Re: Leatherman on-board ISS ??
Reply #12 on: April 11, 2017, 06:01:37 PM
I don't think they are worried about the effects of tool use in the ISS given to tool kit that is provided

http://toolguyd.com/iss-toolbox-tools/
Thanks for the link, that was a very cool article
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