The answer to the Theseus paradox is simple. For an outsider looking at pictures of the spaceship/axe before and after, the answer is no, they are not the same.But for an insider, a member of the spaceship crew, or the user of the axe, the answer is yes, they are the same.
I'm surprised that we don't have a thread about Star Trek Discovery yet so I guess it is up to me to start one, and I'll start with the elephant in the room- the Theseus Paradox.For those not familiar with the term, the Theseus Paradox has to do with the ship of Theseus, and how much of it could be repaired and/or replaced before it was no longer really the ship Theseus started with. A simpler version is Grandpa's old axe, which has had the head and shaft replaced- is it the same axe?What does this have to do with Star Trek Discovery? Simple- if the characters are different, the ship is different, the aliens are different, the technology is different, the story is different, how can it still be Star Trek?I am enjoying it thus far, but I am not sure if it is Star Trek-y enough to be a Star Trek. Couldn't they have been just as successful being called Voyages of Discovery or something and leave Star Trek alone? It seems like there is so little in common with the established Star Trek that I'm not sure it really can be Star Trek.And the Klingons seem remarkably useless and dumb.Anyone else watching it?Def
I've seen them all, but this (beware spoiler below)Show content last episode about different timelines and repeating the same over and over is just too overused in all sci fi shows.From what I can remember, Stargate Atlantis, Eureka, Warehouse 13, Dr.Who, Firefly, Galactica, and a number of other scifi shows have had the same plot and episode development at least in one of their seasons.It's just annoying already!Show contentFrom Groundhog day to the original Star Trek Series, we're seeing it again. It seems to be used when they run out of ideas or have nothing interesting going on in that season, but to use that trick on the 5th episode is a bad signal IMO and IME. Just my $0.02
Just watched episode 7 yesterday, it's different than other star treks but I really like it. So much controversy surrounding it and the pay to view nature doesn't help either.
The paradox is simply a false paradox anyway. The fundamental particles making up the ship or the axe are in a constant state of change. Electrons continuously move in and out of relationships with other atoms in the world.
Red Alert! Technobabble detected!Quote from: 4everYoung on November 01, 2017, 02:26:20 AMThe paradox is simply a false paradox anyway. The fundamental particles making up the ship or the axe are in a constant state of change. Electrons continuously move in and out of relationships with other atoms in the world. Not saying you're wrong. But I'm going to guess your favorite series was Voyager.
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With regards to beaming the space whale on board because it was an endangered species and they need to take it to a zoological station.... With the Discovery being the fast crisis response ship it is, it is very likely that either they are putting the animal in more harm by taking it aboard, knowing they could be called to action anywhere in the galaxy at a moment's notice, or that they would need to use the spore drive to deliver the creature to said facility. No plans for transport were made, so the former seems more likely. If the creature is really that "valuable" for lack of a better term, putting it in the hold was probably one of the dumbest things they could do. More realistically, in a similar situation they should have marked the location and transmitted that data to a more capable vessel.
Oh yeah, and about the new Klingons...WTF is up with them? Their armor makes them super stiff, which would be bad for a warrior race, who could probably appreciate the ability to move freely for combat. And their language is far from efficient, which is also something that a warrior race would probably prize. You don't want to take 5 minutes to say "look out!" because by the time you do, it'll probably be too late.Not to mention that they look like the descendants of the Uruk Hai, so I guess it's possible we will eventually see an episode where it turns out the Klingons are originally from Earth, specifically the South Pacific area?I am enjoying the show overall, but I am finding all kinds of oddities in the way they are writing it... not that other iterations of Star Trek didn't have plot holes large enough to fly the Enterprise through too....Def
I'm with Dave Cullen as far as Discovery is concerned
Is anyone else still watching Discovery? I have to say, I am really digging the plot twists in the second half of the season.Def