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DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer. 629

Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« on: December 05, 2018, 05:07:15 PM »
I bought some beeswax a little while ago ( 1lb ).   I wanted to try a sealant/presever recipe for leather, specifically my leather sheaths.  I was going to try it on my canvass bag too.

I was into the project so no picture of the process sorry. 

There are many recipes online as always.  I wanted one that didn't involve too many items or steps.  I wanted something relatively harsh chemical free.  What I found was several involving cooking oils.  I decided to try one using coconut oil and a drip or three of pharmaceutical mineral oil ( the one for constipation ). 

I used my Trangia stove and small pot.  I used a small mason jar.  My ratios were 1 part beeswax to 3 parts coconut oil with a about 1/4 part or less of mineral oil. 

My mason jar sat inside the pot filled with water ( double boiler ).  I added the beeswax till it liquified then moved pot with jar off the heat and added coconut oil.  I stirred till the mixture began to solidify then put back onto the trangia stove till it all melted again.  Once I was satisfied the beeswax and coconut oil were combined I again removed from heat and added mineral oil. 

I allowed the mix to cool to a smoothish solid.  Its about the consistency of lip balm, hard yet will smear when pressed (make sense?).  I've applied some to my Case Sod Buster sheath and will again later then photograph. 

I chose to make a small batch for now and see how I like it.  Anyone use beeswax?

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Global Moderator Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here... Posts: 42,411
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2018, 06:10:27 PM »
 :popcorn:   let us know how it works for you !


I've used candle wax to stiffen up old worn out Leatherman sheaths before with good results. Bees wax should work well I think it's the main ingredient in sno seal.
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2018, 06:22:06 PM »
Beeswax seems to have been used for a lot of things in times past.  More recently its being used in a lot of products that involve moisture retention or sealing.  I have quite a lot of the beeswax left so I may try another recipe but I really want to stay away from harsh chemicals for no other reason than simplicity.  I can buy pre made products and I do.  I have snoseal.  Its great. 

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 12,914
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2018, 06:37:35 PM »
This one has a few chemicals in it  :whistle:
I wouldn't put it on my lips but it is nice on wood handles  :tu:
Added;  and leather sheaths
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,57808.msg1145887.html#msg1145887

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 18,843 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2018, 06:56:52 PM »
I use a mix that has boiled linseed oil in. Like Sparky said, I wouldn't put it on my lips but it is great for leather, handles and canvas.

Nate

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Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2018, 11:11:28 PM »
I've seen the boild linseed and turpentine recipes.  Those look like really great options.  I was hoping my mixture could be carried and serve multiple purposes.  I've seen some with essential oils to be used for application on the skin.  Theres no shortage on recipes thats for sure. 

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 14,471

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Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2018, 11:15:03 PM »
I use beeswax and compounds with beeswax all the time.

Shoes and boots? Check

Leather belts? Check

Knife sheaths? Check

Lip balm? Check.


Basically, if it's leather....like my lips...it gets some sort of bee's wax.   :tu:
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2018, 11:27:42 PM »
We have some beeswax candle around here somewhere.  I have some essential oils and JoJoba that I want to try a recipe with. 

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No Life Club Posts: 1,657
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2018, 01:23:28 AM »
Nice recipe, Aloha.

Nix you sure do make good use of the beeswax as well.

While I admit to using some products with beeswax, including some of my shoe and boot weatherproofing - and even some of the paw wax I use for Scout - I try not to use it on anything that I will be wearing or walking with when planning to hike in bear country. So, if I'm hiking the mountains a hundred miles west or a hundred miles north of here, I try not to carry or wear anything with beeswax.

Coconut oil has been good, but honestly, I don't know that bears aren't attracted to that either, but I don't think so. I'm not in bear country very often, though. The good news is, when I am, even if I have a beeswax based paw wax or boot sealer, bears hate the sound of bells. So just affixing a small set of Christmas type bells to your pack bothers their ears enough that they will tend to go in the opposite direction
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2018, 06:32:19 AM »
I've read bears sense of smell is pretty amazing so pretty much anything including deodorant can and does attract them.  I'd imagine beeswax would no doubt make them curious. 

Esse Quam Videri
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 57,415
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2018, 12:17:24 PM »
I have a few different products that I use sometimes that contain beeswax :cheers: We have black bear in this area (read this as in the woods surrounding my house) and although not anywhere as big as brown bear, I never really think about not using anything like this :think:

Interested to see what you come up with Aloha :like:
No Life Club Posts: 3,904
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2018, 08:49:34 AM »
Huh.....

I was wondering what to do with all my spare beeswax (seriously, I was)

I happen to have both coconut oil and linseed oil handy as well.

Sounds like something to kill tomorrow afternoon.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 12,914
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2018, 10:13:51 AM »
Don't use the missus best pots  :pok:

 :popcorn:

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 18,843 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2018, 09:54:39 PM »
Don't use the missus best pots  :pok:

 :popcorn:
But if you do, post a vid..... :D

Nate

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Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2018, 11:11:35 PM »
Don't use the missus best pots  :pok:
The voice of experience?  :pok:

Full Member Posts: 148 An old wrench tugger
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2019, 04:00:47 AM »
One part bee's wax to 2 parts mineral oil works perfect for leather and canvas. Do not use any kind of food based oils, like coconut, olive, or vegetable oils. They can and will go rancid over time. Bee's wax is the main ingredient you need, the mineral oil will just thin it down so it can be worked into the materials.  $.02

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 12,914
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2019, 06:51:18 AM »
Don't use the missus best pots  :pok:
The voice of experience?  :pok:

I'm just saying be careful  :P

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No Life Club Posts: 3,904
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2019, 05:58:03 AM »
Did the first filtering of the wax today, I'll decide tomorrow (or later tonight) if it it needs another run through.

I'm not selling it, so it doesn't need to be pristine.

It's not a whole load, I just had a couple of frames that I felt the little buggers weren't looking after well enough, so I pulled them and gave them new ones.

Should be about 1/2 kg. Enough to play with.

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 12,914
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2019, 09:58:34 AM »
I got mine from Ebay, it looked like a whole lot of hassle milking the little buggers for wax  :ahhh

 :whistle:

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No Life Club Posts: 3,904
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2019, 09:13:27 AM »
About half the wax came out "clean", the rest needs a finer filter (It's still usable, but I'd like it a bit less gritty, so I'll run it again....

Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2019, 04:33:18 PM »
I've used the mix I made on a few sheaths.  The mix needs to be heated since it fairly hard.  I like it so far but we'll see how it performs with more time.  I've also used it as a balm and its ok.   I know the coconut oil can and will go bad but for sheaths I'm not too worried and as a balm I'll stick to more commercially made products. 


Esse Quam Videri
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2019, 04:33:32 PM »
I got mine from Ebay, it looked like a whole lot of hassle milking the little buggers for wax  :ahhh

 :whistle:

 :rofl:

Esse Quam Videri
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »
About half the wax came out "clean", the rest needs a finer filter (It's still usable, but I'd like it a bit less gritty, so I'll run it again....

 :D cant wait to see how your mixture turns out.   :like:

Esse Quam Videri
No Life Club Posts: 3,904
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2019, 10:47:39 PM »
I'm pretty happy with the second filter. Lost a bit in the process, but what's left is a nice gold colour, and smells great to boot.


So now I've got to decide

A. What to use for oil - I've got linseed and coconut oil available, I can probably get my hands on some mineral oil (I've got a some small bottles I use for blades and zips and things, but not really quantities for making a jar of goo)

B. What to use it on? An obvious choice is my leathers, but I'm worried I'll be too attractive to bees and have swarms trying to move into my pockets whenever I'm out...


Edit: According to the internet, all the crap I filtered out of the wax makes a neat-o fire starter, so I might find a way to make use of that too.


« Last Edit: January 08, 2019, 10:53:04 PM by Sea Monster »
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,524
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2019, 11:59:25 PM »
The net is filled with wonderful things to use your beeswax for and recipes.  Got cast iron?  You can make a salve, rust inhibitor for hand tools, wood preserver and many many more things.  I suggest make a small amount and see how you like if for that application.  1lb goes a long way a few ounces at a time.   :salute:   

Esse Quam Videri
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 12,914
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2019, 07:02:42 AM »
Sea Monster,
You can find medicinal grade mineral oil used to treat animals on the net or at farming shops over here  :tu:
Its what I use on all my knives and bread chopping board

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No Life Club Posts: 3,904
Re: DIY Beeswax preservative/sealer.
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 11:30:22 AM »
Here's a pic of it from after the first filtering.

(It was actually a little cleaner than it looks - but I took the picture at night with the flash)

This was brood wax from a few frames I changed because they were being grots, so it had a darker start than usual, plus all the dead chunks and byproduct of bees doing bee stuff.


 

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