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In your opinion is the Garberg a Puukko?

Yes, a Puukko
No, more a 'bushcraft knife'
I don't know......

Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko? 1522

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #90 on: January 20, 2019, 01:16:30 PM »
As a side note though...

Finman 101 Leijonat puukko Made in Finland
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This cheapo work puukko doesn't differ much from the cheap Moras, don't you think?

If we put this Finnman 101 next to the Mora Garberg without any tang stamps or emblazoned names or logo on either knife, would we or wouldn't we say that they are the same type of knife?
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #91 on: January 20, 2019, 01:25:57 PM »
There probably are different opinions about this, but mine is, if it's not made in Finland or by a Finnish person it's not a Puukko  :)

While I do tend to be a purist because it helps me to understand definitions better, and while I DO prefer my Swiss Army knives made by the Swiss in Switzerland and my Buck Knives made in the US,  I have to wonder, then...can a Barlow be made by any other nationality than a British or American (specifically New England) if we follow this logic? So the Chinese R R's shouldn't be Barlows?  Is a Tanto blade a Tanto blade if it isn't made in Japan or by a Japanese person?

Would it be more correct to say that TRADITIONAL Barlows are British or American, and TRADITIONAL Puukkos are Finn, but that when the style or design graduates to a certain level of acceptance,  it becomes a knife of the world with origins in x country?
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #92 on: January 20, 2019, 01:30:20 PM »
(But, do note there are specific "requirements" of a proper tollekniv, which a Mora doesn't fulfil. They are different, they are just much more similar to each other than a puukko is to either of them.)

Well, just as I said before, all three are their own separate entities, none of them are quite the same  :)

What about maybe acomparitive thread or threads specifically defining each of these great knife types for those of us nowhere near Lapland who could use a bit of schooling on the specifics of each?
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #93 on: January 20, 2019, 01:36:05 PM »
And note, whether to not I'd buy a Canadian Bowie, doesn't make a difference to whether or not a knife could be called a Bowie.

A SAK made in Germany could still be called a SAK.

A Mora made in Taiwan would still be called a Mora.

Canadian Bowie would be OK by me. The northern-most stretch of the Louisiana Purchase was inot what is now part of Alberta and Seskatewan I think. Plus Canada has a similar history of pioneers, gold rushed and such.

To me a SAK must be made in Switzerland unless the Swiss Army gives a foreign company a contract to make knives for their army, in which case those knife specifically are included.

A Mora made in Taiwan may be a Mora only because the Mora company contracted to have it made, but is it a true Mora?
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #94 on: January 20, 2019, 06:10:16 PM »
I know this much.  I had a Puukko many years ago and it got lost in the many moves I've made.  A friend of mine who lived in Norway for decades gave it to me, and I used it for everything I could find for it to do.  In the back of my mind I have yearned for another one.  I think it was the sharpest knife I've ever used.  I have a couple Mora's, and while a fine knife, I just don't have that feeling for them like I had for that Puukko, or my Opinels for that matter.  I'm on the hunt for a reasonable replacement now!! :woohoo:

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #95 on: January 20, 2019, 07:34:54 PM »
Barry, HELLE of Norway makes a fantastic Scandinavian knife. V-grind, great steel, super sharp!   :tu:

And the Garberg takes a wicked nice edge.   :tu:
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #96 on: January 20, 2019, 07:40:31 PM »
Thanks Jack!  That's exactly what I was looking for buddy!  The one I had didn't have any markings whatsoever.

Barry
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #97 on: January 20, 2019, 09:51:18 PM »
And Helle doesn't make Puukkos :pok:

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #98 on: January 20, 2019, 11:18:27 PM »
Helle is an interesting company that manages to mix classic and modern seemingly without any effort

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #99 on: January 21, 2019, 12:14:38 AM »
I know this is a Mora thread, but HELLE makes some very cool knives. Even if they aren't traditional. Speaking of which, I have a HELLE Viking blade I need to put a handle on......
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2019, 01:30:05 AM »
That Viking looks like a sweet knife!

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2019, 01:32:34 AM »
Agreed.

I've had the blade for a few years now, just haven't gotten around to putting a handle on it....  :facepalm:
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2019, 07:11:53 AM »
Agreed.

I've had the blade for a few years now, just haven't gotten around to putting a handle on it....  :facepalm:

Did the handle not come with it or did it come off?  I have their Viking knife if its the same one you're talking about.  A nice stacked handle would be pretty nice. 

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #103 on: January 21, 2019, 07:48:44 AM »
You can get just the blade and make your own handle.

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #104 on: January 21, 2019, 11:24:33 AM »
oh they have quite a few sweet knives

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #105 on: January 21, 2019, 11:45:05 AM »
Helle is the last Norwegian knife factory with their credibility intact, IMHO.  :tu:
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #106 on: January 21, 2019, 01:39:53 PM »
I have a Helle Symfoni.  Has to be one of my favourite knives I own.


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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #107 on: January 21, 2019, 03:35:12 PM »
You can get just the blade and make your own handle.

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That sounds like a fun project.  Now that I think about it there are so many wonderful options. 

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #108 on: January 21, 2019, 03:36:13 PM »
I have a Helle Symfoni.  Has to be one of my favourite knives I own.

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Looks like a really comfortable handle.  Great looking knife over all. 

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #109 on: January 21, 2019, 04:25:44 PM »
Agreed.

I've had the blade for a few years now, just haven't gotten around to putting a handle on it....  :facepalm:

Did the handle not come with it or did it come off?  I have their Viking knife if its the same one you're talking about.  A nice stacked handle would be pretty nice.

Sorry, Aloha. Yes, I bought the blade as a blade, not as part of a knife. (I don't remember where I got it.... :think:)

The hand is a wee bit short, and I think the is part of my delay in turning it into a proper knife.
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #110 on: January 21, 2019, 04:27:43 PM »
I have a Helle Symfoni.  Has to be one of my favourite knives I own.

Sweet HELLE, G!

I've got a couple HELLE's and they are each fabulous.  :tu:

They are very light for size (stick tangs and wooden handles), as such, they make for brilliant hiking/backpacking knives.  :tu:
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #111 on: January 21, 2019, 04:39:56 PM »
Maybe I'm wrong about the short tang.....

Dug the blade out:




It doesn't look or feel too bad in hand.




I was thinking about trying to use a die to thread the end of the tang, and then using a nut to secure the handle to the blade, but perhaps peening is the way to go.  I have to think about that. I think I'd need a good vise to hold the blade while I peened the pommel. My current vise isn't really robust enough for that. I might be able to improvise something.......

I will say that this HELLE blade is shockingly sharp for an unfinished knife.  :o
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #112 on: January 21, 2019, 09:28:48 PM »
Maybe I'm wrong about the short tang.....

Dug the blade out:

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It doesn't look or feel too bad in hand.

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I was thinking about trying to use a die to thread the end of the tang, and then using a nut to secure the handle to the blade, but perhaps peening is the way to go.  I have to think about that. I think I'd need a good vise to hold the blade while I peened the pommel. My current vise isn't really robust enough for that. I might be able to improvise something.......

I will say that this HELLE blade is shockingly sharp for an unfinished knife.  :o
The traditional way is to peen it on the end with some kind of brass shim type thingy

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #113 on: January 21, 2019, 10:17:50 PM »
Great thread :like: :nothingtoadd: :D

That blade is a beauty, Nix :dd: Perhaps use birch bark pieces on the handle (I watched a Youtube video of it and that seems to be a traditional way to handle it before peening :cheers: ) :tu:
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #114 on: January 21, 2019, 10:29:06 PM »
Maybe I'm wrong about the short tang.....

Dug the blade out:

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It doesn't look or feel too bad in hand.

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I was thinking about trying to use a die to thread the end of the tang, and then using a nut to secure the handle to the blade, but perhaps peening is the way to go.  I have to think about that. I think I'd need a good vise to hold the blade while I peened the pommel. My current vise isn't really robust enough for that. I might be able to improvise something.......

I will say that this HELLE blade is shockingly sharp for an unfinished knife.  :o


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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #115 on: January 22, 2019, 12:13:06 AM »
I have some great walnut I can send you Jack.

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #116 on: January 22, 2019, 01:12:31 AM »
Thanks, Barry. I really appreciate that. I've got a few pieces of nice hardwood laying around that I might use.   :tu:

The big challenge for me seems to be figuring out a practical way to clamp the knife securely while I try to peen the pommel end.  I've got a couple ideas that I might try.

I think I'll do a stacked handle with wood, leather, and brass. I'll probably go with some Maple for a bit of contrast. And it's a nice hardwood.

I sure said that like it would be straightforward....  :rofl:
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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #117 on: January 22, 2019, 05:52:33 AM »
:popcorn:

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #118 on: January 22, 2019, 06:48:19 AM »
This sounds like a terrific project.  I like the idea of a threaded end.  Maple, leather, brass  :dd:.  Great looking blade to begin this project with.   :popcorn:

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Re: Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?
« Reply #119 on: January 22, 2019, 04:11:28 PM »
This sounds like a terrific project.  I like the idea of a threaded end.  Maple, leather, brass  :dd:.  Great looking blade to begin this project with.   :popcorn:

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