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91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued

za Offline Max Stone

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91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
on: May 06, 2019, 07:07:36 PM
As requested, here are the final two PDFs showing the current and discontinued 91mm SAK family groups, for placing in the SAK / Swisstool dating and identification resources stickie.  :tu:

The diagrams are quite straightforward to understand. They've helped me figure out the relationships and groupings across the 91mm range, based on some simple rules of adding tools to the base platform. The diagram type is called a cladogram (thanks Sawl Goodman for pointing this out).

The images below are low-res, but the PDFs print out at a suitable size on A4/letter. A3 even better. They are free to use so long as not for commercial benefit.  :cheers:
Victorinox 91mm Family 2019.jpg
* Victorinox 91mm Family 2019.jpg (Filesize: 181.58 KB)
Victorinox 91mm Family Discontinued.jpg
* Victorinox 91mm Family Discontinued.jpg (Filesize: 160.52 KB)
* Victorinox 91mm Family 2019.pdf (Filesize: 208.69 KB)
* Victorinox 91mm Family Discontinued.pdf (Filesize: 254.27 KB)
« Last Edit: May 06, 2019, 07:55:02 PM by Max Stone »
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #1 on: May 06, 2019, 07:42:18 PM
Thanks Max for the pdf downloads :cheers: :like:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 07:47:08 PM
Love the icons!


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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #3 on: May 06, 2019, 08:00:55 PM
Nice :like:

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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #4 on: May 06, 2019, 08:16:58 PM
Thanks, these are very informative.


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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #5 on: May 06, 2019, 08:41:01 PM
Thanks everyone!  :hatsoff:  Pleased it's of value.  :salute:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 08:52:05 PM
Awesome!!!  Hate to be greedy, but will there be a 111mm version?


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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #7 on: May 06, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Thank you for the great work, it'd be very interesting to use for comparison many years down the road.  :cheers:


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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #8 on: May 06, 2019, 08:59:25 PM
Yes, I do plan to work through all the families...needs some planning on the layout, but the concept will work with all the sizes and SAKWiki is a great reference. Just finding the time.  :salute:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #9 on: May 06, 2019, 09:04:23 PM
As requested, here are the final two PDFs showing the current and discontinued 91mm SAK family groups, for placing in the SAK / Swisstool dating and identification resources stickie.  :tu:


Nice job Max! :like: :tu: :tu:

Thanks! :cheers:


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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #10 on: May 07, 2019, 02:52:06 AM
These diagrams are really great

I love the overall structure and look - Very clear - And the icons are just fantastic - Very creative and quite fun!!   :D

Added to the identification stickie -
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75774.0

That post has also been re-organised as it was getting a bit long!
Any feedback gratefully received

- Thanks so much Max


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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #11 on: May 07, 2019, 03:48:00 AM
Awesome work, Max! :o
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #12 on: May 07, 2019, 04:20:37 AM
Great work! :like: :multi:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #13 on: May 07, 2019, 06:49:57 AM
Thanks cw and GLBM.  :hatsoff:

Thanks Huntsman, the updated thread with link descriptions is great.  :tu:a
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #14 on: May 07, 2019, 05:28:56 PM
Very cool information! There are a lot of discontinued models.

Btw: the Mountaineer Lite has a typing error.


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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #15 on: May 07, 2019, 06:16:19 PM
Oops, thanks  :oops:

Actually was a space issue to stop it wrapping.  :tu:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #16 on: May 09, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Awesome!!!  Hate to be greedy, but will there be a 111mm version?


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...here you go zrxoa1 https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,81488.new.html#_   :hatsoff:

Enjoy!
Victorinox 111mm Family.jpg
* Victorinox 111mm Family.jpg (Filesize: 137.9 KB)
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #17 on: May 09, 2019, 02:37:57 AM
Wow  :o

Great work! These are very useful!  :like:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #18 on: May 09, 2019, 08:36:03 AM
More awesome work, Max! Maximum cool. 8)

It is nice to see a cladogram outside of evolutionary biology and phylogenetic study. Topics I enjoy, but a SAK cladogram, it's next level awesome to an MT nut... :dd:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #19 on: May 09, 2019, 09:07:06 AM
Thanks gustophersmob and GLBM.  :hatsoff:

I must admit it’s quite fun trying to get the relationships aligned across the family as the layer sizes grow. Need to give some thought to the next family to target. Possibly the 58mm.
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #20 on: May 09, 2019, 09:14:43 AM
Off the cuff, flippant, provocative remark ....

I wouldn't bother - they are nearly all two layer - and all the two layer models are  Classics anyway !!!

I am sure you will come up with something imaginative !!

 
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #21 on: May 09, 2019, 10:58:34 AM
Mmm...  :think: may then dive into the 84mm family next as these are closely related to the 91mm.
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #22 on: May 09, 2019, 03:00:04 PM
93mm could be pretty easy to tackle next.  Not too many different models.

Any plans to venture into Wenger territory?
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #23 on: May 09, 2019, 04:39:19 PM
Wenger is a minefield of model lines and the whole Vic takeover and rebrand exercise complicates it further! I’ll need a few days to think about the best approach for them...

But I like the 93mm idea. Maybe expand it to Alox as a broader family. I’ll need to do a count of total models and variations to see how viable that is.  :tu:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #24 on: May 09, 2019, 06:08:18 PM
Here's a 93mm family tree I did a few years ago that may help you.

  - FiL



* Victorinox 93mm Family Tree.pdf (Filesize: 49.57 KB)


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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #25 on: May 09, 2019, 07:01:58 PM
Awesome FiL - will definitely use your reference.  :tu:
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Reply #26 on: May 09, 2019, 11:28:36 PM
Nice, thanks FiL!
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #27 on: May 11, 2019, 05:23:17 AM
Well done again, Max!  :tu:  Cheers for the credit, too.  :cheers:
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nz Offline Sawl Goodman

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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #28 on: May 11, 2019, 05:29:52 AM
Here's a 93mm family tree I did a few years ago that may help you.

  - FiL


Nice work, FiL! Your and Max's graphics are awesome, thanks. :cheers:
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Re: 91mm SAK Family - Current and Discontinued
Reply #29 on: May 11, 2019, 05:34:49 AM
More awesome work, Max! Maximum cool. 8)

It is nice to see a cladogram outside of evolutionary biology and phylogenetic study. Topics I enjoy, but a SAK cladogram, it's next level awesome to an MT nut... :dd:
Agree on all points, g'man. I too am enjoying seeing cladograms in "civilian" applications.
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