Wave and Wave Plus: parts that are the same size?

[At1rest]

Hi there,
Sorry if this is common knowledge but I want to just ask the experts here because I'm not really sure.
Are the main and serrated blades from the older Wave the same size and interchangeable with the Wave Plus blades?

Thank you!

Steve

[Juan el Boricua]

Welcome to the forum, At1rest!
To my best understanding all parts are interchangeable between gen2 Wave and Wave +; not so from OG Wave and other Waves. The original was thinner, with a different profile and without  tool locks. Difference between gen2 and + models is the replaceable wire cutters. Hope this helps until the real knowledgeable people from MT.O chime in!

[Sam Lim]

Hi there,
Sorry if this is common knowledge but I want to just ask the experts here because I'm not really sure.
Are the main and serrated blades from the older Wave the same size and interchangeable with the Wave Plus blades?

Thank you!

Steve

Generally they are mostly Interchangable. But you have to note that different batch/year have slightly different fitting. Example like a 2010 wave outer blades may not lock perfectly in the wave plus frame. There could be some vertical play etc. Not do much of a problem with the internal tools other than the scissors.

[At1rest]

Welcome to the forum, At1rest!
To my best understanding all parts are interchangeable between gen2 Wave and Wave +; not so from OG Wave and other Waves. The original was thinner, with a different profile and without  tool locks. Difference between gen2 and + models is the replaceable wire cutters. Hope this helps until the real knowledgeable people from MT.O chime in!

Thanks Juan

I was looking at a 2003 Wave that will be easy for me to get with the intention of reprofiling the serrated blade, making it into as close to a half hawk as possible, and then replacing the serrated blade in my relatively new Wave Plus.
I'm guessing a 2003 would not be generation 2 so I think I'll look for an other alternative. Possibly just buying a serrated blade that is advertised as fitting the Wave+.
Thanks for the input.

[At1rest]

Generally they are mostly Interchangable. But you have to note that different batch/year have slightly different fitting. Example like a 2010 wave outer blades may not lock perfectly in the wave plus frame. There could be some vertical play etc. Not do much of a problem with the internal tools other than the scissors.

Thanks Sam.
Rather than risk problems I'll just get a blade that is advertised to fit the Wave+.

[Sam Lim]

Thanks Sam.
Rather than risk problems I'll just get a blade that is advertised to fit the Wave+.

The 1st gen wave is very different from the current Gen2 or wave plus.

I am not trying to scare you. Most of the time, the blades advertised generally will both fit the wave Gen2 and plus. The may only be very very minute difference in fitting. Nothing that should get you worried. 

[Poncho65]

Welcome to At1

Sam is just telling you there is a possibility that there may be some play but even if you get one that is advertised as a Wave+ blade it may or may not have the same play because they are the same blade and probably stamped out of the same line  best of luck with the blade swap or what is the reason for the blade swap either way can we get some pics

[At1rest]

The 1st gen wave is very different from the current Gen2 or wave plus.

I am not trying to scare you. Most of the time, the blades advertised generally will both fit the wave Gen2 and plus. The may only be very very minute difference in fitting. Nothing that should get you worried. 

Thanks Sam. That's encouraging.

[At1rest]

Welcome to At1

Sam is just telling you there is a possibility that there may be some play but even if you get one that is advertised as a Wave+ blade it may or may not have the same play because they are the same blade and probably stamped out of the same line  best of luck with the blade swap or what is the reason for the blade swap either way can we get some pics

Thanks Poncho. Good to hear.
Reason is that I really like a half hawk or lambs foot profile and really don't like the serrated.
Pics will happen when it gets done.

[Juan el Boricua]

 Good luck with the swap!

Looking forward for the pictures!

[At1rest]

It's done. ( all photos are here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/7T6WG2ZrREnYnYpq7 )

I started with a Nicholson 8" single cut file but only got as far as removing the points. When I got to solid steel the file was getting tedious so I went out to the old school 4" x 36" belt sander in the garage with a 220 grit belt,
to get rid of all of the serrated edge and just barely begin to do the bevels.

After the belt sander I went to a 220 grit stone but after a few hours of that I ordered a Shapton pro 120 Grit and finished the rough bevels on that.
Much faster and easier on the 120 grit.

I wanted to push the bevels back quite a bit and get rid of as much of those ugly grind marks as possible so it was an as-lib fly buy the seat of pants thing.
Then I went to a Shapton Pro 320 Grit and then a Spyderco 600 Grit. All stones so far have been splash-n-Go water stones.
Got a burr on the 600 grit.

Next I went to an old black Arkansas stone (mineral oil) that I inherited from my father and pushed the burr over to the other site once,
and then finally to a rough leather strop with green compound for some gentle passes to get rid of the burr.

It's not perfect. I scratched it up a bit on the 120 grit stone and didn't get all of those scratches out but I'm really happy with it.
The bevels are a bit odd. The blade gets thinner near the point but that's where it seemed to want to go so I just went with it.
It's not shaving sharp but it'll do a straight down push cut through news paper with ease.

So this was a new blade that I ordered from eBay, not wanting to risk the original, and now that I know I can do this I might just have an other go at doing the same to the original to see if I can do a cleaner job.

All in all, I'm happy with it as it is.

[JonesE]

At1rest, great job on the blade. It is always great when you can make a tool truly your own with the set up you want that works for your need. I hope it gives you a life time of faithful service.

JonesE

[Poncho65]

I always like a good sheeps/lamsfoot blade Nice work and it looks like it turned out great

[At1rest]

Thanks JonesE and Poncho!

I forgot to mention that the new eBay blade fit exactly the same as the original blade.

Also, that it was very difficult to break the locktite or whatever was used.
I have some locktite but didn't re-apply it when putting the new blade in.

[chip]

That does look good, have you removed the serrations completely?

[At1rest]

That does look good, have you removed the serrations completely?

Yes Chip. Thank you.
Serrations are totally gone. It's essentially a Lambs Foot blade now.

[Juan el Boricua]

Excellent job, At1rest! Really liking the semi sheep's foot profile with plain edge; think it can be very useful during camping outings for kitchen duties. Kudos to you Sir!

[At1rest]

Excellent job, At1rest! Really liking the semi sheep's foot profile with plain edge; think it can be very useful during camping outings for kitchen duties. Kudos to you Sir!

Thanks Juan!