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us Offline Nix

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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #30 on: November 03, 2020, 12:47:01 AM
Yeah, you do.....  :pok:


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #31 on: November 03, 2020, 12:50:00 AM
The Cadet is essentially an Alox Sportsman. Just without the corkscrew (and small driver stored in the corkscrew), T&T, pin, and awl. 

 :-\

Sure the Cadet is thinner...and disappears in the pocket...but I do like having that awl....


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #32 on: November 03, 2020, 12:52:46 AM
The Cadet is essentially an Alox Sportsman. Just without the corkscrew (and small driver stored in the corkscrew), T&T, pin, and awl. 

 :-\

Sure the Cadet is thinner...and disappears in the pocket...but I do like having that awl....

Like I said
You need them AWL!!!


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #33 on: November 03, 2020, 01:03:22 AM
 :facepalm:

I think we aren't helping here......


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #34 on: November 03, 2020, 01:08:50 AM
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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #35 on: November 03, 2020, 01:44:17 AM
 :rofl:

I'm sure it's awl right.  There are some good ideas of which one to get first 😉

Sorry. Couldn't resist.


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #36 on: November 03, 2020, 02:13:30 AM
FE.....welcome to the rabbit hole......
I like the idea of Alox and a SClite actually. Other than digging in the wallet depending on how often you need it?


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #37 on: November 03, 2020, 02:15:29 AM
You must resist the Alox Pox... You're going to lose the scale tools and the small blade for a more rugged tool that you'll use as a science student in the city.  It's not worth it, on once you go Alox ... You're stuck.

A Climber with plus scales and a micro flashlight attached to the keyring would be ideal for your needs.  The flashlight might be more practical for your uses as an attachment to a SAK that has everything else you need.
Oh very tricky EB using the old reverse psychology....


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #38 on: November 03, 2020, 03:42:03 AM
Oh very tricky EB using the old reverse psychology....


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 :D well, yes and no.   I know Alox Pox is highly contagious... With an R0 in the umpteen range.  A mere mention and you probably get infected.  Our cohort has managed to transmit across oceans in a matter of minutes.

But if I'm honest, I often wish I didn't have the Alox Pox myself. I'm really liking the Compact this month.


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #39 on: November 03, 2020, 03:54:53 AM
Of course alox in the pocket and something like a rambler (manager if you need pen not toothpick) on the keychain and you get back the tweezers…PX covers a lot of options …just sayin’ :pok:


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Reply #40 on: November 03, 2020, 04:04:07 AM
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Climber, PX, Compact, Evolution 14, Executive, Cadet


The Cadet doesn't have scissors, but makes for a brilliant EDC in my experience.  :tu:
A set up after my own heart :like:
Evo14 doesn’t get anything like the love it deserves, basically a shorter but a little fatter climber
I’d add bantam alox as another lightweight option but of course combo tool not as versatile. Adding a flashlight would recommend nitecore tiki or tube both lightweight and great for their size.
Agree fresnel lens good option you can also get these little jobs on eBay very cheaply and tbh they’re just as if not more effective than the one on my explorer


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #41 on: November 03, 2020, 04:21:26 AM
Go here, pick a size you feel comfortable with and just pick a name, look at the tools and see what tools you want or don’t want, then scroll down to the related models, and just keep tool switching until you get as close to as what works,,
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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #42 on: November 03, 2020, 04:24:09 AM
Hello there,

Thank you for taking the time to read this
So a little background on me:
I am a dental student living in a urban environment and quite often travel by public transport. I am looking for a good EDC pocket knife. I am looking for something minimal and incospicouous as people don't usually react well to seeing someone carrying a big knife. I prefer a Swiss Army Knife since the are are universally accepted as non scary and I love Victorinox SAKs. The tools that are most used and really essential are:

Large Blade
Scissors (my most used tool)
Pen Blade
Bottle Opener with large flathead
Can Opener with 2d Philips
Reamer/Awl
Magnifying Lens
Tweezers and Toothpick
Straight Pin
Backup Pen
A small light (for practical work)

 I am currently carrying the Explorer but it is a little too thick for my liking and comfort. The Climber :climber: is probably a pretty good choice but I was thinking of buying my first ALOX knife.I think I might have a case of mild Alox pox :facepalm: probably from the folks on here or the subreddit.
So I came up with a combo Pioneer X in my pocket and the Swiss Card Lite in my wallet (I carry one of the old traditional types of wallet that can fit it easily) so that way I also get an extra mini scissors and that 4 sided Screwdriver thingy idk what its called  :dunno:bbut I lose the useful Toothpick.

Any suggestions are welcome and greatly appreciated  :hatsoff:
Really sorry if I can't respond immediately to your replies due the large time difference
FE I think you’re already on the right track, the PX is awlsome and the Swiss card would give you light and lens but the light isn’t very bright from what I’ve read (don’t have one to check).
As I say above, you can get pretty useful lenses on eBay for little money and nitecore tube, for example, is going to be much brighter as well as rechargeable which is better IMO.

Here’s some idea of relative thickness

Explorer, Evo14,climber, PX, compact, Pioneer (electrician but same width as regular), cadet, bantam, ambassador and manager.

Manager has pen and scissors but if main used tool then you want full size really, ambassador at a pinch.
As you can see PX is only slightly wider than compact. Ah these are fun decisions to make :like:



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Reply #43 on: November 03, 2020, 05:01:50 AM
:D well, yes and no.   I know Alox Pox is highly contagious... With an R0 in the umpteen range.  A mere mention and you probably get infected.  Our cohort has managed to transmit across oceans in a matter of minutes.

But if I'm honest, I often wish I didn't have the Alox Pox myself. I'm really liking the Compact this month.
Ditto. It’s the pen and nail file on the hook oddly enough


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #44 on: November 03, 2020, 05:04:22 AM
Alox is overrated. And Celidor gives you a few extra tools.


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #45 on: November 03, 2020, 05:05:24 AM
nail file on the hook

Wish awl the hooks had the nail file.

....and awl the awls had sewing eyes.


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #46 on: November 03, 2020, 05:24:31 AM
Alox is overrated. And Celidor gives you a few extra tools.
I’m torn. I don’t think anything could replace my Soldier though. The smallest up scale in tool size is oddly a difference for me.


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #47 on: November 03, 2020, 06:29:09 AM
Wish awl the hooks had the nail file.

....and awl the awls had sewing eyes.
Agree.  I understand older versions not having them, but why not incorporate it on awl the new ones. 


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #48 on: November 03, 2020, 06:37:40 AM
Whoa, I didn't expect so many replies so quickly. I just went to sleep and ya guys already made it to the second page. :cheers:

Again just want to thank everyone for their suggestions and opinions

The thing about my choice comes from the fact that Victorinox in India is still in a very primitive stage. Buying some of the rarer models is very complicated and most likely unavailable. The have only in production models, no Compacts, and just checking now and they don't even have Red Classic SD but have some rare models like limited edition classics and Aloxes even from 2018 in stock. This is how I feel towards them- :rant:
As for the plus scales, we have literally send them back to Victorinox and tell them to add Plus scales and instruments as no one sells them here.
We have our biggest festive season (Diwali) in a few weeks so I am hoping to get some good discounts

My God you guys have given loads of suggestions to get through:

The Compact: Currently unavailable in India but I know a vendor who can try to get it for a little higher cost
The Cadet, Pioneer, Tourist, Sportsman : I am so addicted to the 91 mm scissors that I probably can't do without those
The Scientist, Yeoman: would be a perfect combination if they weren't almost impossible to get
The small Leatherman models: It is almost impossible to get any Leatherman models here except for the Leatherman Rebar for some unknown reason  :dunno:
The 58, 65 mm models: They could definitely work and the mini champ has a extremely useful spatula for me but I am worried is they can handle tougher jobs

The best option are probably
Explorer Plus with a small flashlight
Climber Plus/Evo 14 and a fresnel Lens and a small flashlight
Pioneer X with a swisscard Lite
Executive or Ambassador with a flashlight and fresnel lens

Still really conflicted about the Alox. To buy or not to buy. I love the more robust tools but they also have lesser tools

As for mods I will definitely try them sometime in the future but as of now shipping them halfway across the world and their cost is not in my budget

And as for getting them awl: Definitely someday because we "got to catch em all"

Thanks for listening to me rambling out essays. Still lots of choices to make


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #49 on: November 03, 2020, 08:58:33 AM
Agree.  I understand older versions not having them, but why not incorporate it on awl the new ones.

Newer 111mm don't have the sewing eye anymore  :dunno:


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #50 on: November 03, 2020, 09:04:07 AM
Whoa, I didn't expect so many replies so quickly. I just went to sleep and ya guys already made it to the second page. :cheers:

Again just want to thank everyone for their suggestions and opinions

...


I'm glad you came back and actually read all this  :rofl:


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #51 on: November 03, 2020, 11:29:23 AM
Newer 111mm don't have the sewing eye anymore  :dunno:

Many of Victorinox newer decisions irritate me like this one. Also why replace the best multitool scissors with the limited opening one in the Swisstool Spirit series,  why not provide Plus scales on all models etc.

I feel like it is Victorinox's first rule while designing any multitool to make about 95% perfect and deliberately leave out a feature or two just so that we are never satisfied and we try to achieve 100% perfection by pairing multitools or to get us to collect all their models just to see all the features


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #52 on: November 03, 2020, 11:32:42 AM
I'm glad you came back and actually read all this  :rofl:

Of course, how could I start a post, wait for replies and simply abandon it? If I ever did that you are welcome to kick me out of the (Not so Secret Order of) Swiss Army Knights


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #53 on: November 03, 2020, 11:49:29 AM
Have a great DiwAwli!


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Need Advice on EDC
Reply #54 on: November 03, 2020, 11:50:52 AM
Another Explorer Plus fan here.  After years of trying to find the perfect edc, I’ve realized that sometimes there is a certain threshold where form and function come together to form a balance that works better than either the extreme minimalist/miniature route or the carry everything including the kitchen sink and a pair of channel locks route.

This law is especially true of pocket knives and pocket flashlights.

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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #55 on: November 03, 2020, 12:03:36 PM
Have a great DiwAwli!

I see what you did there ;)
Thanks for the advanced wishes, appreciate it


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #56 on: November 03, 2020, 12:09:43 PM
Another Explorer Plus fan here.  After years of trying to find the perfect edc, I’ve realized that sometimes there is a certain threshold where form and function come together to form a balance that works better than either the extreme minimalist/miniature route or the carry everything including the kitchen sink and a pair of channel locks route.

I too am thinking maybe the Explorer Plus is the best route for me. Has basically everything I need and is a mid size option while not sacrificing too much


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Need Advice on EDC
Reply #57 on: November 03, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
I too am thinking maybe the Explorer Plus is the best route for me. Has basically everything I need and is a mid size option while not sacrificing too much
It’s an excellent edc pocket knife. It’s worth it for the in-line Phillips driver alone.


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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #58 on: November 03, 2020, 01:15:29 PM
The Scientist, Yeoman: would be a perfect combination if they weren't almost impossible to get

With its inline phillips, blade, flat driver, scissors, pen and magnifier, all in 3 layers, the Yeoman is, for me, the "perfect" SAK.   It has all of my essentials, without the Explorer's "unnecessary" 4th layer.  What you might do is rock the Explorer Plus for the time being, and hope that Swiss Bianco releases the Yeoman again someday.  Or pay some mad scientist to mod an Explorer Plus into a Yeoman.

Or, consider a Compact with the addition of a separate phillips driver on your keys.  This gives the basic functionality of a Yeoman, minus the magnifier.


Compact.

Phillips driver:
https://www.amazon.com/Buspoll-Keychain-screwdriver-multifunctional-Phillips/dp/B085D8CJRC/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1XL37I42VO537&dchild=1&keywords=phillips+keychain&qid=1604406127&sprefix=phillips+key%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-9


Swiss Bianco Yeoman.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2020, 01:28:41 PM by powernoodle »
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Re: Need Advice on EDC
Reply #59 on: November 03, 2020, 03:44:05 PM
What you might do is rock the Explorer Plus for the time being, and hope that Swiss Bianco releases the Yeoman again someday.  Or pay some mad scientist to mod an Explorer Plus into a Yeoman.


Yeah this is probably my best and most cost friendly option for now
Custom SAKs are the greatest no doubt but also cost as much as Swisschamp XLT or maybe more so I don't see going into that path for some time

I know this sounds weird but I actually like the dedicated openers especially because they each have a screwdriver and allow space for a pen knife and I heard the combo Opener doesn't work as great as the two openers separately


 

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