New 1897 replica coming

[comis]

I have recently talked to local regional distributor, and as much as many fans want to make the deposit to secure a copy, they had no info other than it would be launched in June.

I am glad its a 10K run as that means it won't be sold out in the first 10 mins

Keeping my fingers crossed here, it is expensive but at least it is still obtainable.

Regarding the pricing and value, I recently just learned that Gucci do make $1300 usd umbrella that is not even rain proof, and you cannot buy a 10k usd(highest is 200k in auction) Hermes Birkin without first buying probably the same amount of accessories, before being offered a 'chance' to get one.  Now that's consumerism and brand worshipping at the highest level.  It's almost sci-fi unreal to me, that leads me to believe Nike has been right all along--nothing is impossible...

[dks]

I have recently talked to local regional distributor, and as much as many fans want to make the deposit to secure a copy, they had no info other than it would be launched in June.

I was told late June by the dealer yesterday.

[comis]

I was told late June by the dealer yesterday.

[Explorer]

My thinking on this one is... It’s probably a safer investment than Bitcoin right now 

[Rizio Il Ghiro]

 The release date is not a secret - it’s Friday 10 June - the emails and website have been clear about that…. Just too much for me, but I’m happy for those who can afford it - I’m sure it’ll be a great addition to a collection! 

[Sawl Goodman]

A poster above mentioned that the replica has fibre scales. But from watching Vic’s videos they actually appear to be wood.

I had some similar thoughts like what if they made something really close but out of regular celidor, made some compromises to keep the price down and so on. I did notice that though they replicated the external look of the 1897 model, under the hood it's a modern pocket knife with all the engineering improvements they have learned in the last 125 years.  It occurred to me that maybe the Spartan is just a better knife and the original a curiosity...

We’re departing from the spirit of the thread but I see your point & am inclined to agree. The hugely more affordable Spartan Wood — or a Spartan with replacement custom wooden scales — looks great & feels much nicer in the hand than with one with plastic scales; & has modern functionality.

I’m not a really a limited edition collector & have no interest in this release. It isn’t faithful to the original anyway. I’d love to hold one, though.

[Jmoita]

I didnt know it was possible to buy a original one under 150 in good conditions

[Jmoita]

I didnt know it was possible to buy a original one under 150 in good conditions

USD/EUR

[EMZ]

Seeing the video, I think I might one. If I have the moeny...

As we say over here: "Better expensive, than not for sale."

[dks]

The release date is not a secret - it’s Friday 10 June - the emails and website have been clear about that…. Just too much for me, but I’m happy for those who can afford it - I’m sure it’ll be a great addition to a collection! 

The actual release day does not seem to be the same everywhere

[SAKTaschenmesser]

UK: Launch date: 10 June 2022
Germany: Einführungsdatum: 10. Juni 2022
France: Date de lancement : 10 juin 2022
USA: Launch date: June 10th, 2022
Brazil: Data de lançamento: 10 de junho de 2022
Peru: Fecha de lanzamiento: 10 de junio de 2022
China: 上市日期：2022 年 6 月 24 日
Japan: 発売日：2022年6月10日
Korea: 출시일: 2022년 6월 10일

[dks]

Here, end of June, according to the dealer.


I am talking about when they would actually be available to buy.

In this thread I think some have already gotten one in some countries.

[nsa-x-file]

UK retail price confirmed at £360.




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[Rizio Il Ghiro]

Indeed - but with import extras it’ll be more direct from Victorinox. It does look interesting, but a bit too much for me at the moment. I’m sure that those who get it will be happy! 

[nsa-x-file]

Now sold out in the UK. Went live at 8:00am and sold out by 9:05am.


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[nsa-x-file]

Indeed - but with import extras it’ll be more direct from Victorinox. It does look interesting, but a bit too much for me at the moment. I’m sure that those who get it will be happy! 

I’ve never had any import fees with any orders from Victorinox to the UK.


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[Tasky]

I’ve never had any import fees with any orders from Victorinox to the UK.
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I think they're included in the price.
There are a couple of SAKs that I was interested in, for example - Vic UK wanted £100 for them, yet on their Euro sites they're only asking €50-odd.... I can only assume this is because of tax and import fees.

[comis]

Just got mine today, and did a quick initial impression in another thread:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,89400.0.html

[Swisster]

the master blade is different than originals and so is the small clip point blade and the nail kicks are different also and few other things on the knife. I only desire period pieces and not over priced inaccurate replicas. I would not buy replicas of anything and that includes knives. that is why I don't buy GEC knives. They are nice but I can get true period knives for around the same price. I just got a 1908 soldier from 1932 for less than a $100 that is in great shape and I don't get the attraction to replicas. It is kind of an imposter and they are never the same

[FolderBeholder]

Maybe Victorinox should have called it a nostalgic piece.  Either way I wanted one because I have been looking to find a 4 exposed rivets Victorinox for quite a while and never have run across a true period piece for sale.

[Bunk Tuppins]

the master blade is different than originals and so is the small clip point blade and the nail kicks are different also and few other things on the knife. I only desire period pieces and not over priced inaccurate replicas. I would not buy replicas of anything and that includes knives. that is why I don't buy GEC knives. They are nice but I can get true period knives for around the same price. I just got a 1908 soldier from 1932 for less than a $100 that is in great shape and I don't get the attraction to replicas. It is kind of an imposter and they are never the same

Reading between the lines on those youtube clips from Victorinox I got the impression that their engineering staff had trouble with a strict recreation of the original and the prototypes did not conform to what they now consider a quality pocket knife; in other words it didn't have the same sort of snap. She mentioned something about optimizing the opening and closing forces.  So here's my question: on the period pieces you have handled, how well did they work? In particular did the tools close up tightly? Etc.

[Bunk Tuppins]

oops duplicate sorry

[VICMAN]

Maybe Victorinox should have called it a nostalgic piece.  Either way I wanted one because I have been looking to find a 4 exposed rivets Victorinox for quite a while and never have run across a true period piece for sale.

 

[Aloha]

The videos earlier in the thread do explain a lot as to why they are not exact.  For the fuss I made on price I think it looks wonderful.  I don't suspect anyone will use it?  I know I wouldn't  .  Not even sure if I'd handle it  . 

[Fortytwo]

Reading between the lines on those youtube clips from Victorinox I got the impression that their engineering staff had trouble with a strict recreation of the original and the prototypes did not conform to what they now consider a quality pocket knife; in other words it didn't have the same sort of snap. She mentioned something about optimizing the opening and closing forces.  So here's my question: on the period pieces you have handled, how well did they work? In particular did the tools close up tightly? Etc.

I have the older Soldier with the main parts of the design from around the same time (my best bet is that the actual knife is from around 1950) and it is a pain on the nails for one. If you keep them too short you might not get enough grip but if they get too long the start bending before the knife opens. I'm a bit peeved that it doesn't come in carbon steel to keep it period appropriate. But the company  is named for the stainless steel so I guess it checks out.

[Farmer X]

Sometimes I think I've gotten a 40-year head start on being one of those grouchy old smurfs who seethes with contempt at the debased times he's lived to see. That will likely be evident in this post. Y'awl have been warned.

I was recently excited to open up an e-mail from Knife Center so I could see the nee Victorinox product. That excitement evaporated almost instantly. My first thought was "it's cool, but not $500 cool."

I can't help but thinking that insane asking price was borne out of pure, unadulterated hubris. That's the only explanation I have for such an asking price when so many people (myself included) are struggling with the effects of hyperinflation.

This is just the latest in a litany of colossal blunders made by Victorinox. First, they come out with a line of sweet Alox colors...and restrict them to the Classic SD, a model I already have in large quantities. Then they've raised the prices on other models by considerable; for example, the price of a Deluxe Tinker has risen by $10 in less than a year. It took them seemingly forever to get blue Spartans back in stock, and when they did...they asked too high a premium (in my opinion) for them.

I guess the bottom line is that Victorinox by and large ain't giving me what I want, and attempting to gouge me for what I do. If this is the path they're going to tread, I'll be done with 'em in due time.

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[Bunk Tuppins]

You have complained before that the price of a deluxe tinker has gone up.  If you consult camelcamelcamel.com you will find that the price of this item on Amazon averaged $47.52 in its last 50 price changes.  A typical price over the past year has been about $42 to $48.  The current price?  $39.46.  So I don't know where you are buying but if you buy online you are just wrong about that.
 https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B000MLU8SQ

As to the other complaints - hmnnn...  I don't see these
'issues' as colossal blunders.  I am pretty sure they will turn a profit on this limited collectible.  It's not really meant for casual users of pocket knives and most casual users will never hear of it.  Their regular knife line is good and very cheap, IMO. 

[Farmer X]

If you consult camelcamelcamel.com you will find that the price of this item on Amazon averaged $47.52 in its last 50 price changes.

You obviously did not take into consideration that there are people (myself included) who refuse to give Amazon their money.

[Huntsman]

OK Folks -

I think we have had enough talk and moaning about the price and pricing strategy of the 1897 Replica

Let's just home in on its features and functions - And maybe some nice pics from those of us lucky anough to have one (eg See Comis thread)

Also let's also not worry too much about how exact the replica is - The Vic video made it clear they had done some modernisations to the build

[Myron]

Thank you, Huntsman.  I was finding it increasingly difficult to resist suggesting we start a separate thread for all the haters....  I bought this knife, but frankly won't be posting any pictures or impressions.  Hate this knife, think it's too expensive?  Fine, don't buy one.