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Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **on:** February 02, 2009, 06:55:07 PM

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090202/tuk-billion-dollar-wreck-discovered-6323e80.html

As much as the money is a great find, the thought of raising some artifacts from the original Victory is really exciting

J-sews · **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2009, 05:02:11 AM

Ahhh, I hadn't realized there was "another" Victory. Doing some googling on her now. Very interesting, thanks!

Anthony · **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2009, 05:09:23 AM

I love shipwreck stories

This one is interesting, although no riches..this was one of the first submarines (and the first one to sink a ship). Used during the American Civil War by the Confederate States Of America

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._L._Hunley_(submarine)

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2009, 01:33:39 PM

Quote from: Corrugated on February 03, 2009, 05:09:23 AM

I love shipwreck stories

This one is interesting, although no riches..this was one of the first submarines (and the first one to sink a ship). Used during the American Civil War by the Confederate States Of America

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._L._Hunley_(submarine)

I hadn't realised they'd found her

Thanks for that mate

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #4 on:** February 03, 2009, 02:14:38 PM

I've been following Victory No.1. I was especially happy read how the find seemed to vindicate both the captain and lighthouse keeper.
For some reason,it brought to mind the story of the steamboat Arabia.Found in a Kansas(?) cornfield something like 20 years ago.It sank in the Missouri River,but the river shifted course over the years and now flows about 3 miles or so from where the Arabia went down.

ducktapehero · **Reply #5 on:** February 03, 2009, 07:55:07 PM

Quote from: Bison56 on February 03, 2009, 02:14:38 PM

For some reason,it brought to mind the story of the steamboat Arabia.Found in a Kansas(?) cornfield something like 20 years ago.It sank in the Missouri River,but the river shifted course over the years and now flows about 3 miles or so from where the Arabia went down.

It's in Parkville MO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabia_Steamboat

Dunc · **Reply #6 on:** February 04, 2009, 08:00:09 PM

Great stuff

Have you ever wondered why there isnt a HMS Victory in Service now ? ( WARNING trick question )

Dunc

Neil · **Reply #7 on:** February 04, 2009, 09:03:17 PM

Because there is. Big wooden job down in Portsmouth

Neil

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #8 on:** February 04, 2009, 10:01:57 PM

Bless it's in a different part of 'ard by the sea' for Dunc to know about it

Dunc · **Reply #9 on:** February 04, 2009, 11:34:38 PM

Quote from: NKB on February 04, 2009, 09:03:17 PM

Because there is. Big wooden job down in Portsmouth

Neil

Which I understand is still the Admirals Flagship

I've so got to go and see it one day .

Dunc

Neil · **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2009, 12:07:27 AM

Its been a few years since I had a wander round. Somewhere I have embarrassing photos of me sat astride one of its cannons

Neil

Dunc · **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2009, 07:15:50 AM

Quote from: NKB on February 05, 2009, 12:07:27 AM

Its been a few years since I had a wander round. Somewhere I have embarrassing photos of me sat astride one of its cannons

Neil

Find them , Scan them , post them

we all want a laugh ( with you of course and not at you

)

Dunc

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2009, 09:21:40 AM

Quote from: dunc5 on February 05, 2009, 07:15:50 AM

Quote from: NKB on February 05, 2009, 12:07:27 AM
Its been a few years since I had a wander round. Somewhere I have embarrassing photos of me sat astride one of its cannons

Neil

Find them , Scan them , post them we all want a laugh ( with you of course and not at you )

Dunc

Speak for yourself

Neil · **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2009, 12:15:43 PM

Strangely enough, that won't be high on my to do list

Neil

J-sews · **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:05:34 AM

Quote from: dunc5 on February 04, 2009, 11:34:38 PM

Quote from: NKB on February 04, 2009, 09:03:17 PM
Because there is. Big wooden job down in Portsmouth

Neil

Which I understand is still the Admirals Flagship I've so got to go and see it one day .

Dunc

While reading up on this great ship yesterday, it was interesting to learn that it almost never became famous. In 1798, after decades of service (but seven years before Trafalgar) the Victory was to be converted to a hospital ship. Only the loss of the Impregnable a few months later, which left the admiralty short a warship, prompted them to rebuild the Victory and have it ready for Nelson and history.

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:10:50 AM

Quote from: J-sews on February 06, 2009, 03:05:34 AM

Quote from: dunc5 on February 04, 2009, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: NKB on February 04, 2009, 09:03:17 PM
Because there is. Big wooden job down in Portsmouth

Neil

Which I understand is still the Admirals Flagship I've so got to go and see it one day .

Dunc

While reading up on this great ship yesterday, it was interesting to learn that it almost never became famous. In 1798, after decades of service (but seven years before Trafalgar) the Victory was to be converted to a hospital ship. Only the loss of the Impregnable a few months later, which left the admiralty short a warship, prompted them to rebuild the Victory and have it ready for Nelson and history.

I think I recall that more than once that Victory was docked in ordinary(tied up in port sans sails.spars and running rigging).Who knows how different things might've been if Victory finished her days as a prison hulk.If I remember right Nelson was OK with Victory,but his favorite ship was Agamemnon.

Dunc · **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2009, 07:28:38 AM

Yes , she laid up in ordinary ( unused and surpless to requirements ) for so long that she started to rot and needed a refit before she went into service that cost more then it did to build her in the first place .

Dunc

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2009, 10:46:21 AM

Quote from: dunc5 on February 06, 2009, 07:28:38 AM

Yes , she laid up in ordinary ( unused and surpless to requirements ) for so long that she started to rot and needed a refit before she went into service that cost more then it did to build her in the first place .

Dunc

Worth every penny though

Magic Bus · **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:34:41 AM

Very interesting, thanks for that. I love stuff like this. A little off topic but it reminds me of camping on Rathlin Island. A WWI battleship HMS Drake had been sunk in the bay and us happy campers would often be able to pick up washed up cordite sticks (sometimes in it's bags ) which came in very useful for lighting fires

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:06:47 PM

Quote from: Magic Bus on February 06, 2009, 11:34:41 AM

Very interesting, thanks for that. I love stuff like this. A little off topic but it reminds me of camping on Rathlin Island. A WWI battleship HMS Drake had been sunk in the bay and us happy campers would often be able to pick up washed up cordite sticks (sometimes in it's bags ) which came in very useful for lighting fires

I think I've been tempted to leave it alone

Magic Bus · **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:24:16 PM

Quote from: Micky d on February 06, 2009, 02:06:47 PM

Quote from: Magic Bus on February 06, 2009, 11:34:41 AM
Very interesting, thanks for that. I love stuff like this. A little off topic but it reminds me of camping on Rathlin Island. A WWI battleship HMS Drake had been sunk in the bay and us happy campers would often be able to pick up washed up cordite sticks (sometimes in it's bags ) which came in very useful for lighting fires
I think I've been tempted to leave it alone

It was OK, just burnt fiercely. Would have been a different matter if contained in a shell casing though

The Royal Navy spoilt our fun a few years later by blowing the wreck up. Apparently too much munitions left onboard!

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:28:03 PM

Damned nanny state

Magic Bus · **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:51:18 PM

Yeah, spoilsports

Sorry to go so far off topic, but here's a link http://www.northantrim.com/HMSDrake.htm

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:36:49 PM

Quote from: Magic Bus on February 06, 2009, 02:51:18 PM

Yeah, spoilsports Sorry to go so far off topic, but here's a link http://www.northantrim.com/HMSDrake.htm

Thanks for the link mate

I'll have a read of it later

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2009, 10:57:50 PM

The only known warship to have sunk anywhere near me was the USS Carondelet,one of the Eads Kids of ironclads of the Civil War;and that was after it's wartime prime.
http://www.numa.net/expeditions/carondelet.html

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2009, 10:58:48 PM

They real were the Titans of there day

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #26 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:01:34 PM

I used to regularly drive past the point where Carondelet lay,and often saw that dredge.Never did I realize that it was chopping up a significant piece naval history

Neil · **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2009, 02:15:32 AM

Quote from: NKB on February 05, 2009, 12:07:27 AM

Its been a few years since I had a wander round. Somewhere I have embarrassing photos of me sat astride one of its cannons

Neil

Don't think I want to go again

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/further_dockyard_outrage/

Neil

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #28 on:** February 18, 2009, 05:54:43 AM

Quote from: NKB on February 18, 2009, 02:15:32 AM

Quote from: NKB on February 05, 2009, 12:07:27 AM
Its been a few years since I had a wander round. Somewhere I have embarrassing photos of me sat astride one of its cannons

Neil

Don't think I want to go again

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/further_dockyard_outrage/

Neil

Count yourself lucky that you weren't a sailor in the fleet of French admiral Tourville.To keep his sailors happy during long cruises,he arranged "marriages" between" his older sailors and powder monkeys and cabin boys.

Dunc · **Reply #29 on:** February 18, 2009, 07:16:23 AM

Quote from: NKB on February 18, 2009, 02:15:32 AM

Quote from: NKB on February 05, 2009, 12:07:27 AM
Its been a few years since I had a wander round. Somewhere I have embarrassing photos of me sat astride one of its cannons

Neil

Don't think I want to go again

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/further_dockyard_outrage/

Neil

Your hair was longer back then

Dunc

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