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*** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***

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Reply #120 on: July 01, 2023, 06:37:25 PM
The Dean51 Traditional Challenge ( Case Badge )
Day 1 of 30
Case Sodbuster Jr.

As I looked at my Case knives trying to decide which one to carry today, I decided I would use this plain old black Sodbuster Jr, in stainless steel.  It is the least expensive way to get started with new Case slipjoint knives ( confirmed via Amazon, Ebay and SMKW ). And to boot, my son gave me this one that he picked up at a yard sale. He has no real appreciation for traditional knives and leans towards Benchmade tactical cutlery.

My blackberry trellis is starting to produce some ripe goodies.



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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #121 on: July 01, 2023, 06:50:33 PM
Day 1

A Scout Jr (just a followup on the tween month!)
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That Scout Jr is quite cool looking! I like it!!

Day 1

Just got back from the dog park and it's a lovely morning. Along the fence line at the dog park there are wild blackberries.


There's a fine cobbler in that bag somewhere!  :like:

Day 1

2014 Case T.B.6339 CV Sowbelly in Jigged Chestnut bone.

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Great picture!!!

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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #122 on: July 01, 2023, 06:59:12 PM
A very late entry but I'll participate with my case saddle horn if you all will allow it :tu:


Day 1

Welcome aboard!

Love the Saddlehorn pattern but do not see them very often in the wild.  Missed one on. Auction site about a week ago.

If I start and end the day above ground, it is a good day!

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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #123 on: July 01, 2023, 06:59:57 PM
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Good to see you Stitch!!! Our paths haven't crossed much lately.
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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #124 on: July 01, 2023, 07:02:49 PM
Day 1


This is the Case that I'll be using through most of this challenge - a mini copperhead.  It is a perfect daily-carry knife because it isn't too big for a comfortable pocket-carry, yet it isn't too small to be very useful, I love the blade combo, it looks great, yet it's not too nice where I'll be crushed if I drop it and crack/chip it.   I'll use some others and show off the rest, but the mini copperhead will be my huckleberry  :tu:




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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #125 on: July 01, 2023, 08:16:21 PM
Great kickoff, everyone   :tu:


Dang, now I have to buy a Sod Buster.   :ahhh 


Now I'm checking eBay for a Scout Jr   :rofl:

Rough Ryder makes one, if Case/collectability isn't an issue. Best of the modern "budget" trad folder companies IMO.


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #126 on: July 01, 2023, 08:45:33 PM
Welcome aboard!

Love the Saddlehorn pattern but do not see them very often in the wild.  Missed one on. Auction site about a week ago.
Thanks :cheers: I haven't carried or used it much so this challenge is a great way to do something about that :tu:

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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #127 on: July 01, 2023, 09:16:07 PM
Rough Ryder makes one, if Case/collectability isn't an issue. Best of the modern "budget" trad folder companies IMO.

Thanks  :hatsoff:   Case/collectability is an issue, but not at the prices on ebay  :o   :ahhh  :rofl:


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #128 on: July 01, 2023, 09:18:10 PM
Good to see you Stitch!!! Our paths haven't crossed much lately.

 :cheers:   Hope you're keeping well.
I wasn't able to post much lately as my job keeps me a little too busy.


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #129 on: July 01, 2023, 09:19:29 PM
The Dean51 Traditional Challenge ( Case Badge )
Day 1 of 30
Case Sodbuster Jr.

As I looked at my Case knives trying to decide which one to carry today, I decided I would use this plain old black Sodbuster Jr, in stainless steel.  It is the least expensive way to get started with new Case slipjoint knives ( confirmed via Amazon, Ebay and SMKW ). And to boot, my son gave me this one that he picked up at a yard sale. He has no real appreciation for traditional knives and leans towards Benchmade tactical cutlery.

My blackberry trellis is starting to produce some ripe goodies.

Good old reliable Soddy  :like:


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #130 on: July 01, 2023, 09:21:04 PM
Day 1

We are off to a great start   :like:


Just got back from the dog park and it's a lovely morning. Along the fence line at the dog park there are wild blackberries. You can graze on the them as you walk. Unfortunately most are on the other side of the fence out of reach. Well I decided it was worth it to climb over the fence and do some berry collecting. My Old Stag Lamb came in handy clearing some brambles out of the way. 👍

Cassie wasn't too happy about being left on the other side but quickly got over it when I started feeding her berries through the fence. 😁

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Old Stag Lamb and a PAL Blade Co. Jack


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Some Info on he PAL Company

Pal Blade Company purchased the cutlery division on January 17, 1941 from Remington-Dupont which had been located at Bridgeport, Connecticut. Remington sold the cutlery department in order to utilize the existing Bridgeport plant space for the production of munitions ( I believe for the production of the Model 1903 rifle for the British government - GMC).

Pal leased a 100,000 square foot facility in Holyoke, Mass. located on the west side of Bigelow Street between Appleton and Cabot Streets. This building had been the A building of the Farr Alpaca Company. Interestingly enough, part of this building in the 1800s had been the home of the Henry Seymor Cutlery Company, makers of shears and scissors.

Removal of the machinery to Holyoke began on February 4, 1941 with the move scheduled to be completed within 30 days. By March 1st they planned to be in operation with two shifts employing 300 workers, many of them women. Plans were to have 450 employees within 3 months, and they were advertising that the company would be the largest cutlery manufacturing company in the United States. Full production was to begin in June, 1941.

At the time, Pal Blade also had factories in Plattsburg, New York, Montreal, Canada, Newfoundland and South America. Owners were brothers Abraham Mallman of Montreal and Joseph Mallman of New York.

The above information was taken from the February 3, 1941 Holyoke Transcript-Telegram

During World War 2, the plant was converted to make bayonets, sheath knives, and pocket knives for US forces. Following the war, the name was changed to the Pal and Personna Blade Co., Inc. Other company plants were located in Montreal, Canada, Plattsburg, New York, Barranquilla, Columbia and Buenos Aires, Argentina.

By December, 1945 the plant had been converted to peace time products and expanded their product line to include many items which had been unavailable during the war and for which there was a large market. Under the Pal name they produced pocket knives, paring knives, slicing knives and kitchen utility items in the moderate price range. The Personna items included gift sets, carving sets, carving knives and kitchen knives in the higher price brackets.

Employment in 1946 reached 950 workers on two shifts. 7:00 AM to 4:45 PM (3:45 PM for the women workers) and another shift from 3:00 PM to 11:00 PM. The plant worked 5 ½ days a week, closing at noon on Saturdays. At the time the plant operated on two floors of 90,000 square feet each. The first floor contained most of the assembly lines and production tables, while the basement was occupied by store rooms, a maintenance shop and one work room where paring knives were made. (Note – the building no longer exists - GMC)

The above information was taken from the December 4, 1946 Holyoke Transcript-Telegram


Looks like you two had a great time  :like:

Nice read btw.  :hatsoff:


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #131 on: July 01, 2023, 09:31:44 PM
Good old reliable Soddy  :like:

I don't particularly see the appeal of sod busters, but, at the price, I'm tempted to pick one up just to try.


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #132 on: July 01, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Large Stockman is best Stockman, prove me wrong.

It is certainly subjective, but assuming you’re referring to the 75 pattern, then I think the 47 pattern has it beat for EDC/general utility.

The 47 is 3/8” shorter closed, but still long enough for most folks to get a full four-finger grip on.

If you compare the two side by side, you’ll note that the blades on the 75 are wider than the 47’s blades, but not really much longer.

Being narrower, shorter, lighter, and having rounded bolsters (vs. square bolsters on the 75), the 47 carries much smaller in pocket than the 75 but gives up very little in terms of cutting capability.


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Reply #133 on: July 01, 2023, 10:13:40 PM
I think both look good :like: And would not have a problem carrying any of them :tu:

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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #134 on: July 01, 2023, 10:40:51 PM
I don't particularly see the appeal of sod busters, but, at the price, I'm tempted to pick one up just to try.

From my perspective, I understand.

I at first ignored the Sod Buster pattern, relating it prairie farmers, slicing SOD to make dwellings.

But, when I took stock of my preferred blade types, my choices start at; Spear Point, Drop point, Clip point, Wharncliff, Sheepfoot (lamb), and then TANTO. 

I realized, I grew up working for the neighboring farmer, and also my grandfathers vegetable farm, AWL our fixed blade work knives were DROP point blanks we affixed 1/4” or 3/8” wood slabs to and press rivets. Then sharpened and formed the handle.

I found the Buck 110 works best with a Clip blade, yet I enjoy my 112 with a Drop point over a Clip.

Fix blades I select Spear point as best camp and hiking carry. 

So for me a Sod Buster it is a nice general purpose WORK KNIIFE.  CASE offers in a large variety of scale cover materials with matching prices.

Marbles and RR and Imperial produce good options at reasonable prices.
My Marble is white bone, 80% quality for about 14$s 👍
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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #135 on: July 01, 2023, 11:00:44 PM
Day 01

Dean like the GEC 68 Pony Jack and Barlows. A couple Tidioutes to start off with. Pony Jack and a TC Barlow.
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Reply #136 on: July 01, 2023, 11:06:54 PM
. I will help ya AWL!
CV or SS?  New or used?

PM me your address, if I locate one and can direct ship I will, be assured it be of quality I would covet!😅

More jokes??

CV is the best of course.


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Reply #137 on: July 01, 2023, 11:08:05 PM
It is certainly subjective, but assuming you’re referring to the 75 pattern, then I think the 47 pattern has it beat for EDC/general utility.

The 47 is 3/8” shorter closed, but still long enough for most folks to get a full four-finger grip on.

If you compare the two side by side, you’ll note that the blades on the 75 are wider than the 47’s blades, but not really much longer.

Being narrower, shorter, lighter, and having rounded bolsters (vs. square bolsters on the 75), the 47 carries much smaller in pocket than the 75 but gives up very little in terms of cutting capability.

Excellent effort Sir but 75 makes me smile.


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Reply #138 on: July 01, 2023, 11:38:17 PM
I don't particularly see the appeal of sod busters, but, at the price, I'm tempted to pick one up just to try.

Interesting,,,  I always assumed all fans of traditional knives had tried a Sodbuster at least once,,, whether they liked it afterward or not.

From my perspective, I understand.

I at first ignored the Sod Buster pattern, relating it prairie farmers, slicing SOD to make dwellings.

But, when I took stock of my preferred blade types, my choices start at; Spear Point, Drop point, Clip point, Wharncliff, Sheepfoot (lamb), and then TANTO. 

So for me a Sod Buster it is a nice general purpose WORK KNIIFE. 

Being from a family of tobacco sharecroppers,,, I can appreciate the association of the knife and simple country folks

Growing up in western Virginia, we were always taking game or slaughtering livestock of some sort. One particular uncle was considered a "great white hunter" and he kept a skinning knife with him at all times. He and I were very close and he taught me a lot,,, both good and bad. As such, I always had a propensity for skinning knives. I guess that's why I like the Sodbuster style knives so much. In fact, I have skinned one whitetail deer with my yellow Sodbuster.  It did the skinning well,,, but boy was it hard to hold on to during the process. It also developed a micro crack in the blade edge while splitting the pelvis. No the perfect tool for the job,,, but it got the job done.

Also for me is the simplicity of a single blade.  As you said,,, just a good old, reliable, everyday work knife. 
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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #139 on: July 01, 2023, 11:39:48 PM
Day 01

Dean like the GEC 68 Pony Jack and Barlows. A couple Tidioutes to start off with. Pony Jack and a TC Barlow.

Excellent choices David!! :like:
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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #140 on: July 01, 2023, 11:41:31 PM
Day 01

Dean like the GEC 68 Pony Jack and Barlows. A couple Tidioutes to start off with. Pony Jack and a TC Barlow.
Those are some good looking knives :drool:

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Reply #141 on: July 02, 2023, 12:42:32 AM
Interesting,,,  I always assumed all fans of traditional knives had tried a Sodbuster at least once,,, whether they liked it afterward or not.

Being from a family of tobacco sharecroppers,,, I can appreciate the association of the knife and simple country folks

Growing up in western Virginia, we were always taking game or slaughtering livestock of some sort. One particular uncle was considered a "great white hunter" and he kept a skinning knife with him at all times. He and I were very close and he taught me a lot,,, both good and bad. As such, I always had a propensity for skinning knives. I guess that's why I like the Sodbuster style knives so much. In fact, I have skinned one whitetail deer with my yellow Sodbuster.  It did the skinning well,,, but boy was it hard to hold on to during the process. It also developed a micro crack in the blade edge while splitting the pelvis. No the perfect tool for the job,,, but it got the job done.

Also for me is the simplicity of a single blade.  As you said,,, just a good old, reliable, everyday work knife.

I'll start by admitting that I'm pretty new to traditionals. I carried a 58mm SAK or a keychain Gerber or Leatherman for most of my life (and I'm pretty sure I'm on the young side for the forum). Only started getting into other multitools (aside from a Hiker for camping and a no-name PBMT under the sink) a few years ago, and only started with traditional folders last fall (thanks to a trade with FarmerX). I'm enjoying learning about and trying new (to me) patterns, but there's a lot I haven't seen yet.

I think the single blade is a big part of the issue for me. I've spent most of my life in the suburbs, and (mostly) work a desk job. My dad carried a SAK, because he was more likely to need a pair of scissors than a serious blade at his (awlso mostly desk) job. The odds that I'll need anything heavier than a 2.5" stockman or SAK blade are pretty slim. I do like having 2 or 3 blades (and a screw driver or whatever is always nice) though, so that the one that's covered in tape crud isn't slicing my apple (and I don't have to worry about cleaning it in between).

I have a couple of single blades at home that get some carry time on rougher fix-it projects, camping, etc. but soddys "feel" like they want to be EDC to me, not bushcraft or whatever. Buying one feels a little like going out and buying a Carolla to drive on weekends when you've already got a daily driver, something sporty, and a pickup. It'll get the job done, but I'm not sure it's the right tool for the job, and, even cheap, it's still money that might be better spent elsewhere.

I'm sure I'll wind up with one someday (probably this month, thanks to all of you), and I'll sound off. Maybe it'll click.


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #142 on: July 02, 2023, 12:55:25 AM
I'll start by admitting that I'm pretty new to traditionals. I carried a 58mm SAK or a keychain Gerber or Leatherman for most of my life (and I'm pretty sure I'm on the young side for the forum). Only started getting into other multitools (aside from a Hiker for camping and a no-name PBMT under the sink) a few years ago, and only started with traditional folders last fall (thanks to a trade with FarmerX). I'm enjoying learning about and trying new (to me) patterns, but there's a lot I haven't seen yet.

I think the single blade is a big part of the issue for me. I've spent most of my life in the suburbs, and (mostly) work a desk job. My dad carried a SAK, because he was more likely to need a pair of scissors than a serious blade at his (awlso mostly desk) job. The odds that I'll need anything heavier than a 2.5" stockman or SAK blade are pretty slim. I do like having 2 or 3 blades (and a screw driver or whatever is always nice) though, so that the one that's covered in tape crud isn't slicing my apple (and I don't have to worry about cleaning it in between).

I have a couple of single blades at home that get some carry time on rougher fix-it projects, camping, etc. but soddys "feel" like they want to be EDC to me, not bushcraft or whatever. Buying one feels a little like going out and buying a Carolla to drive on weekends when you've already got a daily driver, something sporty, and a pickup. It'll get the job done, but I'm not sure it's the right tool for the job, and, even cheap, it's still money that might be better spent elsewhere.

I'm sure I'll wind up with one someday (probably this month, thanks to all of you), and I'll sound off. Maybe it'll click.

Sounds like a Camillus Office Knife might be right up your alley.   :tu:     :D

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275926687997?hash=item403e8320fd:g:yIEAAOSw4elkneyU&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0Fu8WrX%2BehU%2FRd7FIpXpOSqCK4Oma1Iv1D5RTkBFGB8GFbr96A1ofG2pKm1iYYaVpp3C8a08tbPXIZXj8b4qYcXLTu5ke2Wc6SdgjHAHMcGEVrL13RE%2FWaML%2FOwrSI3hRkuGzuPX6uhVjpuYr8kok4k5RRaDAz%2FV4OncXxfz68jZS1ZQqdHajxrSljhIO2zBVoMjRxCWXgM%2BVP%2F7lY8dcosuFj8lG%2FCqobmVQUYxIaJpg5lst%2FJ0glcHmeoiCl413xWLo0PHdpHvV0hOuuNv5zc%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_DGwLqiYg
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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #143 on: July 02, 2023, 01:00:15 AM
Day 1
Starting with what is probably my most used Case knife - Navy Sodbuster Jr


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Reply #144 on: July 02, 2023, 01:01:40 AM
I'll start by admitting that I'm pretty new to traditionals. I carried a 58mm SAK or a keychain Gerber or Leatherman for most of my life (and I'm pretty sure I'm on the young side for the forum). Only started getting into other multitools (aside from a Hiker for camping and a no-name PBMT under the sink) a few years ago, and only started with traditional folders last fall (thanks to a trade with FarmerX). I'm enjoying learning about and trying new (to me) patterns, but there's a lot I haven't seen yet.

I think the single blade is a big part of the issue for me. I've spent most of my life in the suburbs, and (mostly) work a desk job. My dad carried a SAK, because he was more likely to need a pair of scissors than a serious blade at his (awlso mostly desk) job. The odds that I'll need anything heavier than a 2.5" stockman or SAK blade are pretty slim. I do like having 2 or 3 blades (and a screw driver or whatever is always nice) though, so that the one that's covered in tape crud isn't slicing my apple (and I don't have to worry about cleaning it in between).

I have a couple of single blades at home that get some carry time on rougher fix-it projects, camping, etc. but soddys "feel" like they want to be EDC to me, not bushcraft or whatever. Buying one feels a little like going out and buying a Carolla to drive on weekends when you've already got a daily driver, something sporty, and a pickup. It'll get the job done, but I'm not sure it's the right tool for the job, and, even cheap, it's still money that might be better spent elsewhere.

I'm sure I'll wind up with one someday (probably this month, thanks to all of you), and I'll sound off. Maybe it'll click.

Feel what you are saying about only a single blade.

In this case just the single blade helps keeps the Sodbuster thin. Also being a relatively wide blade give the handle some with so keeping the blade on the correct plane or angle becomes very easy.

If that make sense.


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #145 on: July 02, 2023, 01:06:01 AM
Day 1

Been getting ready for this the last few months so have a nice selection of Traditional knives to choose from finally.

Of course the Mini Copperlock that my baby girl got me for Fathers Day with here own money and selected by herself was a slam dunk choice.

Second knife was going to be something not Case because Steve said I could and still be doing Case Badge.

Earlier today there was some talk about Trappers so that being my favorite pattern and having a new horizontal sheath to try out made the decision.

Overcast day walking by the lake.




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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #147 on: July 02, 2023, 01:08:51 AM
Day 1

Been getting ready for this the last few months so have a nice selection of Traditional knives to choose from finally.

Of course the Mini Copperlock that my baby girl got me for Fathers Day with here own money and selected by herself was a slam dunk choice.

Second knife was going to be something not Case because Steve said I could and still be doing Case Badge.

Earlier today there was some talk about Trappers so that being my favorite pattern and having a new horizontal sheath to try out made the decision.

Overcast day walking by the lake.

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Fine pair to get started and of course the Mini Copper lock is priceless !   :think:


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Re: *** The Dean 51 Traditional Challenge 2023 ***
Reply #148 on: July 02, 2023, 01:10:17 AM
Day 01

Dean like the GEC 68 Pony Jack and Barlows. A couple Tidioutes to start off with. Pony Jack and a TC Barlow.

Dean had good taste.  :like:
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Reply #149 on: July 02, 2023, 01:22:22 AM

Nice opening shot in the enabling part of the challenge !    :rofl:

Added to my watchlist. Wasn't GA1dad saying he needed to do some more fishing? And Harley loves trappers? Clearly one of you needs this Fish Trapper!


 

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