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This is interesting UK ers!

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This is interesting UK ers!
on: June 16, 2009, 07:05:49 PM
I'm not sure if this has been shown here recently; http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8101032.stm

thoughts? (my Benner imitation :pok: )

I think it's interesting and since most stabbings are with kitchen knives, good idea!
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #1 on: June 16, 2009, 07:31:30 PM
Interesting idea, but it's not going to work in practice is it ::)

And given our large population of around 61 million (probably wrong by now) 300 deaths is hardly as big a deal as the media would have us believe :)
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #2 on: June 16, 2009, 07:53:39 PM
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It has taken four years to develop.
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The new knife is a 'more intelligent' design

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Dr Mike Beckett, clinical tutor at West Middlesex Hospital, has previously called for knives to be redesigned. He says all products should combine efficiency in their intended purpose with the greatest possible degree of safety.

Next thing you know all you Brits will have to walk around while wearing styrofoam bubbles.
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #3 on: June 16, 2009, 08:01:10 PM
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It has taken four years to develop.
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The new knife is a 'more intelligent' design

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Dr Mike Beckett, clinical tutor at West Middlesex Hospital, has previously called for knives to be redesigned. He says all products should combine efficiency in their intended purpose with the greatest possible degree of safety.

Next thing you know all you Brits will have to walk around while wearing styrofoam bubbles.
Don't joke, it will happen >:(
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #4 on: June 17, 2009, 12:03:07 AM
Please see the other anti-stab knife thread for my thoughts.  :D

What a pants idea.
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #5 on: June 17, 2009, 01:24:51 AM
What a lot of codswallop. ::) The only good thing about this is the fact it's got the Police to admit that most knife crimes are carried out with kitchen knives.  Perhaps if I was living with a homicidal nutter (and SHMBO isn't that bad) I might want to have blunt tipped knives in my kitchen. 

There is just no logic to this. 

A) you are a nutter that wants to stab someone: you don't buy this knife.

B) you aren't a nutter who wants to stab someone: you don't buy this knife.

C) somehow a law is passed that bans all things pointy: you buy this knife and whittle a pointy thing.  :ahhh
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #6 on: June 17, 2009, 01:54:18 AM
What a lot of codswallop. ::) The only good thing about this is the fact it's got the Police to admit that most knife crimes are carried out with kitchen knives.  Perhaps if I was living with a homicidal nutter (and SHMBO isn't that bad) I might want to have blunt tipped knives in my kitchen. 

There is just no logic to this. 

A) you are a nutter that wants to stab someone: you don't buy this knife.

B) you aren't a nutter who wants to stab someone: you don't buy this knife.

C) somehow a law is passed that bans all things pointy: you buy this knife and whittle a pointy thing.  :ahhh

When we were kids, we just ground popsicle sticks on the concrete into pointy things that had a pretty decent edge (considering it was wood).   No need to pay 40GBP for a knife to do that...

Heck, a piece of flat iron and a grinding wheel will get you a proper prison shank in about 15 minutes....


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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #7 on: June 17, 2009, 05:19:55 AM
lol! what I really like is they are admitting and showing it's not our saks and folders and edc blades but "kitchen" knives that are being used.

we're having knife laws and general stupidity here in the usa and this helps "at least show some stats" about what is being used for crimes and what is not.

and don't our UK mates already wear bubbles :think: :P :D
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #8 on: June 17, 2009, 06:28:50 PM
What a lot of codswallop. ::) The only good thing about this is the fact it's got the Police to admit that most knife crimes are carried out with kitchen knives.  Perhaps if I was living with a homicidal nutter (and SHMBO isn't that bad) I might want to have blunt tipped knives in my kitchen. 

There is just no logic to this. 

A) you are a nutter that wants to stab someone: you don't buy this knife.

B) you aren't a nutter who wants to stab someone: you don't buy this knife.

C) somehow a law is passed that bans all things pointy: you buy this knife and whittle a pointy thing.  :ahhh

When we were kids, we just ground popsicle sticks on the concrete into pointy things that had a pretty decent edge (considering it was wood).   No need to pay 40GBP for a knife to do that...

Heck, a piece of flat iron and a grinding wheel will get you a proper prison shank in about 15 minutes....
I've seen some visious wounds resulting from a toothbrush and a concrete floor in jails.I knew of a deputy that was stabbed through the heart with a shank made from a mop bucket bail.
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #9 on: June 17, 2009, 08:36:26 PM
Just found a pic of the new LM Charge "UK version"...  ;)
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #10 on: June 17, 2009, 09:17:59 PM
Just found a pic of the new LM Charge "UK version"...  ;)

Non-locking I assume ;)
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #11 on: June 17, 2009, 09:40:11 PM
Just found a pic of the new LM Charge "UK version"...  ;)
You mean this...


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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #12 on: June 18, 2009, 06:16:08 PM
Just found a pic of the new LM Charge "UK version"...  ;)
You mean this...
We shouldn't laugh too hard or long here in North America.We may well wind up with the same thing in the near future :cry:
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #13 on: June 18, 2009, 06:22:22 PM
Hhhmmmm Kitchen / Rescue knives  :think:



Just found a pic of the new LM Charge "UK version"...  ;)
You mean this...
We shouldn't laugh too hard or long here in North America.We may well wind up with the same thing in the near future :cry:


The way things are going you may have to buy your OH opening knives from the UK  :P


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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #14 on: June 18, 2009, 06:28:24 PM
Any plans to dispose of all the rocks, bricks, etc?


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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #15 on: June 18, 2009, 10:49:15 PM
Any plans to dispose of all the rocks, bricks, etc?

You just never know.  :P
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Reply #16 on: June 22, 2009, 10:41:34 PM
Any plans to dispose of all the rocks, bricks, etc?

You just never know.  :P
There will be compulsory wearing of crash helmets and large foam suits for everybody just in case glass bottles are to banned forks are to rubber tipped and you will need to go on a training course to learn to use them


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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #17 on: June 22, 2009, 10:43:15 PM
Any plans to dispose of all the rocks, bricks, etc?

You just never know.  :P
There will be compulsory wearing of crash helmets and large foam suits for everybody just in case glass bottles are to banned forks are to rubber tipped and you will need to go on a training course to learn to use them
Give it 8-10 years and you'll be right :(
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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #18 on: June 22, 2009, 11:46:15 PM
It's such a nonsensical idea - bringing in a new format of kitchen knife that you can't stab with in the hope it will reduce stabbings.  I can just see someone going into Tesco, eyeing up the knives and thinking about all the stabbing they're going to do later as they readjust their burberry cap and make sure their tracksuit is still looking sharp.  They look at the £2 tesco value chefs knife, then at the £20 'anti-stab knife,' and decide "you know what, that second option seems a much better idea".

The only way that would work is if they banned every other type of knife and bought that in as standard - a ridiculous proposal which even our government would realise couldnt get off the ground.  It's one thing appealing to the hysterical and badly informed, preaching about the dangers of the average person carrying tools in the pocket, its a million times more difficult to tell everyone in the country who cooks that they have to get rid of their expensive and often sentimental kitchen knifes in order to replace them with a design which is no doubt going to be less effective, mass manufactured and over priced.


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Re: This is interesting UK ers!
Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 12:43:59 AM
you bring up a good point, what happened with the sentimental/heirloom/expensive EDC/collectible blades that were banned over there?
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