SAK's - Corkscrew or Phillips?

[Oxford_Guy]

Victorinox MT oil works as a toothpaste sure.
 

Rather that than Ballistol! <retch>

[Steinar]

... for that fresh aniseed breath!

And good luck pushing down the cork on a bottle of lambic. It will already be under pressure, and the cork will be long. The end result will in the best case be a mess and cork in the beer.

(It seems we to some degree follow the cliche of the Europeans wanting the corkscrew and the Americans wanting the Philips here. )

[jalind]

After buying this today in the large grocery section of a local department store (similar to a Target), my ambivalence is gone. Must have a Phillips and it needs to be the vintage Can Key type with the veritcal slot to open the Can Key cans that are still being made.

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John

I bet SAK pliers or a pair of needawlnose ones will work well on those cans

Or just use the included can key?

Booooooooooo  Go back to the Can Key forum if you love them so much. Boooooooooooo - I brush my teeth with a multitool - it really hurts and my teeth are terrible but if you can't do it with a multitool it's not worth doing.

( v )

Fortunately, as I have some vintage SAKs, the tools are already on hand! This is the Super Tinker. Also have a Deluxe Tinker and Small Tinker with Can Key Phillips . . .



I can only hope Victorinox will bring back the Can Key for those less fortunate who haven't been able to get one of these vintage. It would be a shame for them to starve without one during the Zombie Apocalypse.

John

[gene stoner]

After buying this today in the large grocery section of a local department store (similar to a Target), my ambivalence is gone. Must have a Phillips and it needs to be the vintage Can Key type with the veritcal slot to open the Can Key cans that are still being made.

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John

I bet SAK pliers or a pair of needawlnose ones will work well on those cans

Or just use the included can key?

Booooooooooo  Go back to the Can Key forum if you love them so much. Boooooooooooo - I brush my teeth with a multitool - it really hurts and my teeth are terrible but if you can't do it with a multitool it's not worth doing.

( v )

Fortunately, as I have some vintage SAKs, the tools are already on hand! This is the Super Tinker. Also have a Deluxe Tinker and Small Tinker with Can Key Phillips . . .

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I can only hope Victorinox will bring back the Can Key for those less fortunate who haven't been able to get one of these vintage. It would be a shame for them to starve without one during the Zombie Apocalypse.

John

Bring on the zombies!

[magentus]

Question - Do Zombies leave vegetarians alone?

[jalind]

Question - Do Zombies leave vegetarians alone?

Vegetarian brain is a highly prized delicacy!

John

[AimlessWanderer]

Question - Do Zombies leave vegetarians alone?

I thought everyone did 

[magentus]

 

[jalind]

... for that fresh aniseed breath!

And good luck pushing down the cork on a bottle of lambic. It will already be under pressure, and the cork will be long. The end result will in the best case be a mess and cork in the beer.

(It seems we to some degree follow the cliche of the Europeans wanting the corkscrew and the Americans wanting the Philips here. )

In that situation I would use one of these . . .




U.S. Army M1902 Light Cavalry Saber

A Medcial Bill will attest, attempting to open a bottle of champagne or lambic using a saber without first studying and thoroughly knowing the sabrage technique, and rehearsing it, is strongly discouraged, as is performing the technique indoors.

John
(who has two of these; one ceremonial and this one, which is very real)

[Steinar]

Cavalry sabres are sort of frowned upon as EDC in the European nanny states.

[jalind]

Cavalry sabres are sort of frowned upon as EDC in the European nanny states.

Actually, sabrage can be performed with flat or square metal (preferably steel) object about a foot long. I've seen it done with the spine of a bayonet (not the sharp edge). All that's needed is a relatively sharp corner, not a cutting edge. A piece of angle iron with a somewhat sharp corner could do the job if used correctly. 

[Steinar]

There are even videos floating around the net with people doing it with the base of a glass. (By tapping, though, not the gliding motion/strike of sabrage.)

[jerseydevil]

Cavalry sabres are sort of frowned upon as EDC in the European nanny states.

Geez, you guys can't have ANY fun over there, can you?

[Steinar]

Americans get knives and guns, Europeans get nudity and sex. I don't think our end of the deal is too bad.

http://satwcomic.com/anything-but-that

[jerseydevil]

Americans get knives and guns, Europeans get nudity and sex. I don't think our end of the deal is too bad.

http://satwcomic.com/anything-but-that

[Oxford_Guy]

Americans get knives and guns, Europeans get nudity and sex. I don't think our end of the deal is too bad.

http://satwcomic.com/anything-but-that

 

[Don Pablo]

Thanks for the alternative viewpoint on them screws. 

Btw, not right place to ask, but speaking of philips, whats the size of the philips on the 58mm rally/manager/etc?

It's a # 0

John

Philips size 0?
Thanks, its much smaller than I expected!
I'll have to get one now.

[Oxford_Guy]

Thanks for the alternative viewpoint on them screws. 

Btw, not right place to ask, but speaking of philips, whats the size of the philips on the 58mm rally/manager/etc?

It's a # 0

John

Philips size 0?
Thanks, its much smaller than I expected!
I'll have to get one now.

It's just the right size for undoing the screws on my laptop computer's base base plate, they're recessed, but the driver is still small enough to enter the holes. The tip being magnetised also helps. Don't know why anyone would choose to carry a Classic over a Rambler or Manager, they're not much larger, you gain a small Phillips driver and cap lifter and the blade is on the side away from the keyring, so easier to use.

[Don Pablo]

No need to convince me, my first sak in a good bunch of months is on its way for my birthday.. aaand its a rambler. 

I'm thinking of doing some thin scale mods on it! 

[AimlessWanderer]

I can't believe that nobody has given the standard MTO response to this thread yet...... get both!

[jalind]

Thanks for the alternative viewpoint on them screws. 

Btw, not right place to ask, but speaking of philips, whats the size of the philips on the 58mm rally/manager/etc?

It's a # 0

John

Philips size 0?
Thanks, its much smaller than I expected!
I'll have to get one now.

It's just the right size for undoing the screws on my laptop computer's base base plate, they're recessed, but the driver is still small enough to enter the holes. The tip being magnetised also helps. Don't know why anyone would choose to carry a Classic over a Rambler or Manager, they're not much larger, you gain a small Phillips driver and cap lifter and the blade is on the side away from the keyring, so easier to use.

+1

In 58mm size I don't carry any less than a Rambler for all those same reasons. The usual is a modified MiniChamp (T&T scales; no pen) but when I want slim, it's a Rambler.

[Oxford_Guy]

I can't believe that nobody has given the standard MTO response to this thread yet...... get both!

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I did! I said "Both, carry a Yeoman or Explorer  " - these have an inline Phillips (where it's more useful) and a corkscrew on the back...

[jalind]

I can't believe that nobody has given the standard MTO response to this thread yet...... get both!

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I did! I said "Both, carry a Yeoman or Explorer  " - these have an inline Phillips (where it's more useful) and a corkscrew on the back...

And let us not forget about the venerated Woodsman which carried the Explorer to the next level, errr, ummm, layer too, I suppose.



John

[Padre]

Sex is as unnatural than using SAK corkscrew.

[Don Pablo]

Awesome mod and tools, but the rambler has a tiny cute philips for electronics work! 

[Oxford_Guy]

Awesome mod and tools, but the rambler has a tiny cute philips for electronics work! 

This is one of the reasons why it can be a good idea to carry both a Rambler and a larger SAK with a #2 Phillips, then you've got the majority of commonly-encountered Phillips screw sizes coverd!

[El Corkscrew]

Just found this thread after searching for this very topic.  I was a little surprised that the corkscrew was not beating the phillips by more.   But maybe that's just me being corkscrewcentric.  Definitely wins for me, especially when carrying a SAK with the opener layer.  The Explorer is the answer for many but with a Rambler/Manager on the keychain I usually feel adequately equipped with a 2-layer.

[Mechanickal]

Just found this thread after searching for this very topic.  I was a little surprised that the corkscrew was not beating the phillips by more.   But maybe that's just me being corkscrewcentric.  Definitely wins for me, especially when carrying a SAK with the opener layer.  The Explorer is the answer for many but with a Rambler/Manager on the keychain I usually feel adequately equipped with a 2-layer.

You like the corkscrew?
No way!?

[Ron Who]

The corkscrew dates back to 1897, the Phillips to 1952. I don't consider the Phillips an improvement, but rather a falsification. The resulting knife is not an officer's knife, but a mechanic's. 

[El Corkscrew]

Just found this thread after searching for this very topic.  I was a little surprised that the corkscrew was not beating the phillips by more.   But maybe that's just me being corkscrewcentric.  Definitely wins for me, especially when carrying a SAK with the opener layer.  The Explorer is the answer for many but with a Rambler/Manager on the keychain I usually feel adequately equipped with a 2-layer.

You like the corkscrew?
No way!?

  Now you know... Hope this doesn't change anything....