Opinel Safety Knife

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

http://www.heinnie.com/product.asp?s=zdt6sr138278&strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=4350

I'm really tempted by this, as despite it being locking, it is very sheeple friendly

Question is (and I know it's been asked before) if the locks not actually employed, would it be illegal edc without a reason? By my way of intepreting the law, it would only be contravening the law if the lock was engaged, as without it can be folded unimpeded just like a slippy

What do you guy's think

[Nikos]

http://www.heinnie.com/product.asp?s=zdt6sr138278&strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=4350

I'm really tempted by this, as despite it being locking, it is very sheeple friendly

Question is (and I know it's been asked before) if the locks not actually employed, would it be illegal edc without a reason? By my way of intepreting the law, it would only be contravening the law if the lock was engaged, as without it can be folded unimpeded just like a slippy

What do you guy's think

So, put in another way, if you have a locking folder and only open it partway (so that the lock doesn't engage), does that make it legal?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Probably not, no

[ducktapehero]

I don't know your laws very well but unless an officer was specifically looking for someone to arrest I think you'd probebly be safe with that. It looks harmless.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

That's my thinking too

[Nikos]

Isn't there also a 3'' limit on the blade edge length? According to Heinnie's, this one has an (exactly) 3'' blade, which could be borderline. Perhaps a No. 6 and some elbow grease (to blunt off its tip) would be a better choice...

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Isn't there also a 3'' limit on the blade edge length? According to Heinnie's, this one has an (exactly) 3'' blade, which could be borderline. Perhaps a No. 6 and some elbow grease (to blunt off its tip) would be a better choice...

No, I'd be comfortable carrying this one as it is bang on 3inches

Or I could just carry one of my My First Vic's of course

[Paul]

If it's capable of being locked you need a good reason for carrying.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

If it's capable of being locked you need a good reason for carrying.

Well I do have a good reason when working, I was just wondering for those times I'm not working

May have to fall back on a MFV after all

[Paul]

The law is black and white, integrity of individual police officers vary. I once absent mindedly left a large Benchmade locking folder sticking out my pocket while having a friendly chat with a copper outside Tesco for about 15 mins. I had been using it in the morning and just forgot. He definitely seen it and knew what it was, but took no action.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

The law is black and white, integrity of individual police officers vary. I once absent mindedly left a large Benchmade locking folder sticking out my pocket while having a friendly chat with a copper outside Tesco for about 15 mins. I had been using it in the morning and just forgot. He definitely seen it and knew what it was, but took no action.

Trouble is for every sensible copper, there's dozens of 'hungry' ones, let alone Specials

[jzmtl]

What's wrong with something like ukpk/farmer? They are legal aren't they?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

What's wrong with something like ukpk/farmer? They are legal aren't they?

They are, and I regularly edc a Farmer

I just wanted a nice rounded tip, for when I have to use a knife (quite frequently) around kids, both my own and the one's at work

[Benner]

No arguments on that I'm afraid, it has a lock and is therefore classified as a locker the same as any other.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

No arguments on that I'm afraid, it has a lock and is therefore classified as a locker the same as any other.

Yeah I figured as much, I was just hoping there'd be a 'gray area' for it to hide in

[Benner]

No arguments on that I'm afraid, it has a lock and is therefore classified as a locker the same as any other.

Yeah I figured as much, I was just hoping there'd be a 'gray area' for it to hide in

I agree with the whole safe image though.  Personally, I think the overall appearance of a knife is as equally important as the technicalities of locks etc. 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

No arguments on that I'm afraid, it has a lock and is therefore classified as a locker the same as any other.

Yeah I figured as much, I was just hoping there'd be a 'gray area' for it to hide in

I agree with the whole safe image though.  Personally, I think the overall appearance of a knife is as equally important as the technicalities of locks etc. 

Very true, and it does at last seem to be being addressed

[jzmtl]

What's wrong with something like ukpk/farmer? They are legal aren't they?

They are, and I regularly edc a Farmer

I just wanted a nice rounded tip, for when I have to use a knife (quite frequently) around kids, both my own and the one's at work

I seem to recall spyderco is coming out with a slip joint rescue knife, maybe look into that.

[Nikos]

I reckon this one has been mentioned before but I just can't remember the resolution: if you remove the locking ring from an Opinel, is that enough to make it legal?

[Benner]

I reckon this one has been mentioned before but I just can't remember the resolution: if you remove the locking ring from an Opinel, is that enough to make it legal?

Yep, as it can no longer lock.

[Craig]

Here's a link from British Blades on the subject.

http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26230&highlight=opinel

Seems like it would be classed as a lock knife to me

[Gareth]

I was just going to say that this had been endlessly discussed on BB.  IIRC the consensus was that if it can lock then it's probably not worth the risk.  This is all tempered, IMO, with the chance of you ever being stopped and searched.  my rule of thumb is "don't be a pillock and you won't get in trouble". It's worked so far.

I'd also say that if you have a reason to carry a knife at work, then carry anything that would reasonable fit in with your place of work, just so long as you are at work.  Clear? 

[Benner]

I was just going to say that this had been endlessly discussed on BB.  IIRC the consensus was that if it can lock then it's probably not worth the risk.  This is all tempered, IMO, with the chance of you ever being stopped and searched.  my rule of thumb is "don't be a pillock and you won't get in trouble". It's worked so far.

I'd also say that if you have a reason to carry a knife at work, then carry anything that would reasonable fit in with your place of work, just so long as you are at work.  Clear? 

Could not agree more.    People worry so much about this locking subject it's unreal.  Just use your loaf and don't be a muppet. 

[Nikos]

Could not agree more.    People worry so much about this locking subject it's unreal.  Just use your loaf and don't be a muppet. 

You mean, like, hiding the knife in a loaf of bread or something?

[Benner]

Could not agree more.    People worry so much about this locking subject it's unreal.  Just use your loaf and don't be a muppet. 

You mean, like, hiding the knife in a loaf of bread or something?

Yeah, don't you do that then 

[Gareth]

Could not agree more.    People worry so much about this locking subject it's unreal.  Just use your loaf and don't be a muppet. 

You mean, like, hiding the knife in a loaf of bread or something?

Just so long as you're not dressed as Kermit you should get away with it. 

[Spork, Lord of Lime Jello!]

I think you should get one 

[jzmtl]

I reckon this one has been mentioned before but I just can't remember the resolution: if you remove the locking ring from an Opinel, is that enough to make it legal?

Yep, as it can no longer lock.

I wouldn't use it that way to be honest. Opinel has almost no friction to hold blade open and I had mine almost fold several times on me when I didn't lock it.

[Benner]

I reckon this one has been mentioned before but I just can't remember the resolution: if you remove the locking ring from an Opinel, is that enough to make it legal?

Yep, as it can no longer lock.

I wouldn't use it that way to be honest. Opinel has almost no friction to hold blade open and I had mine almost fold several times on me when I didn't lock it.

I wouldn't either, but I know some that have.

[Nikos]

Can they all still give a high-five?