Dutch Army Knives

[Code of The West]

Nice collection !
I like the pictures of the new DAK, especially because they are my fotos of my knife on my jeans jacket  .

Do you think I could work with you to get some Dutch knives (buy) ?

[EMZ]

Here a picture of my latest purchase: A Wenger Adirondack.
According to information given to me by Agamemnon, the Adirondacks were once part of Dutch army survival kits.

[Agamemnon]

 

My newest acquisition (the story and the pictures):

Due to cutbacks in defense expenditure in the Netherlands and Germany, as a result of which the Netherlands was unable to maintain the strength of the 1st Army Corps and Germany was unable to raise a full Third Army Corps, both countries decided to establish a joint German-Dutch Army Corps, 1(GE/ NL)Corps (30/8/1995).

This First German-Dutch Army Corps is a NATO defense unit, consisting of German and Dutch army units. The headquarters is located in the German city of Münster.

[Echotech]

Nice addition

[Rizio Il Ghiro]

  interesting too!

[ALEKS ALEKS]

The story of my DAK, 1993
DAK, model 1993, was accidentally discovered on the Internet in April 2021

[ALEKS ALEKS]

Initial state of DAK, 1993:
- nylon pads from GAK-111 are installed on the knife;
- a large screwdriver has a broken slot;
- the blade was in good condition with a clear stamp of the patent DE-GM 9305297. The stamp with the Victorinox A.G. logo has «two» lines;
Note: I found a large development on the back – «heel» of the blade (scratches).
- the rest of the tool is in good condition (new);
- all tools open with great effort;
- defective blade blocking Liner-Lock. The blade opens tightly, in jerks.

In May 2021, the knife was handed over to Switzerland for repair, to Victorinox A.G., in Ibach, at the location of the production.
In September 2021, the refurbished DAK, 1993 returned.
The total cost estimate is $ 21.7. Knife repair at Ibach - 4 months.

Victorinox A.G. was  repair:
- replaced by a large screwdriver;
- blade replacement, a blade without stamp DE-GM 9305297 is installed, with the Victorinox A.G logo on "three" lines;
- blocking repair. Liner-Lock, works perfect. Restored intermediate fixation of the blade in the 90 ° position;
- Installation of original nylon linings, khaki color with the emblem of the Armed Forces of the Netherlands;
- moving parts of the knife in factory lubrication;
- the tool opens perfectly.

[EMZ]

Interesting posting!! Thanks Aleks.

Funny thing that Vic turned your GAK into a DAK.
Did your 'old' knife had the old or new liner lock? (The new version has 'press' stamped on the sides, and is a little bit higher.)
I guess the new blade is a little bit larger in height, than the old blade?

[EMZ]

And now, ladies and gentleman, this is the news you've all been waiting for!   
DAK afficionado's and all others, fasten your seatbelts!
Here are the first detailed pictures of a genuine, beautiful, Holy Grail Victorinox: The latest version of the blue alox RNLAF Survival Kit Knife !! 

This particular knife is a little bit of an enigma...
In order to shed some light: Look at the tweezers.
Tomorrow I show you more detailed pics.

[glenfiddich1983]

And now, ladies and gentleman, this is the news you've all been waiting for!   
DAK afficionado's and all others, fasten your seatbelts!
Here are the first detailed pictures of a genuine, beautiful, Holy Grail Victorinox: The latest version of the blue alox RNLAF Survival Kit Knife !! 

This particular knife is a little bit of an enigma...
In order to shed some light: Look at the tweezers.
Tomorrow I show you more detailed pics.

 

[Farmer X]

In order to shed some light: Look at the tweezers.

Metal tip? Whatever the case, that's a most excellent DAK! 

[Rizio Il Ghiro]

Wow!! 

[pa_strunk]

That is awesome 

[EMZ]

Okay, here’s the story of this knife.
This Master Craftsman version (the 4th and last generation) was used by the Dutch Air Force (RNLAF) even into the Eighties of the last century. These specific knives were part of the survival kits on board of our F16 fighter jets. At that time the Dutch Air Force had some 213 F16’s at hand. Somewhere in the Eighties the blue alox knives were replaced by a newer version of the Master Craftsman (with dark blue plastic slabs). The old knives were collected to be destroyed. Luckily a few knives survived, as this one did.
When all the old knives were selected it was noticed that none of the knives had a toothpick, but instead ALL knives were equiped with two tweezers and hence NO toothpicks!
The funny thing is that the blue alox knive I now own, has one toothpick with an aluminium head and one with a nickel-silver head. My guess is that toothpicks were easily lost and were replaced with tweezers from the older types of alox Master Craftsman.

In my collection is also a 2nd generation blue alox RNLAF knive. It has its original tweezers (with nickel-silver head) and its original toothpick. This tweezer is slightly longer than the nickel-silver tweezer from the 4th generation knife.
To make it more confusing, the tweezer heads and toothpick head are thinner than the tweezer heads and tooth pick heads that are now in use in all Vic knives. Because the aluminium scales are much thinner than the plastic ones, the standard tweezers and tooth picks will protrude considerable. It is my guess that the tweezers and tooth pick heads were manually made to fit the pockets of the blue alox knives.
Also notice that the old tooth pick is slightly wider than the modern ones.
In my knife I’ve now replaced the nickel-silver tweezers with an adjusted ‘replica’ modern toothpick.

I also noticed some small interesting details:
-   The liners next tot he main blade of the blue alox knives are thinner than the liners of the standard, civilian knives with plastic slabs. Due to the rigidity of the aluminium slabs, it could be made thinner.
-   The main blade of the 2nd generation is slightly thicker.
-   The production date of this 4th generation knife is probably around 1978-1980.
-   The 2nd generation is 0.34 millimeter wider.
-   The 2nd generation knife is 2 grams heavier.

[EMZ]

And 2 more...

[Rizio Il Ghiro]

Many thanks got that, EMZ!

[Farmer X]

Beautiful little group you have there! 

[Rizio Il Ghiro]

That should have read “Many thanks for that, EMZ” - virtual keyboards catch me out, not that I’m much of a typist it has to be said….. However, loved the pics and the details- great stuff!

[Agamemnon]

 

My latest knife:

A Wenger Master with Interservice logo
 

[Myron]

@EMZ, your new addition is amazing!   I am so happy for you, as I know you have been searching for this piece for a long time.  Thank you for sharing it with us, and for documenting it so thoroughly as well.  Congratulations!

Myron

[Echotech]

congratulations EMZ & Agamemnon

[ALEKS ALEKS]

Good day
An old liner lock was installed on the old knife.
The old liner lock did not have 'press' written on it.
I did not measure the blade width before repairing.

Sincerely, Alexander

Note:
It was DAK who sent it for repairs.
For a long time I put the pads from GAK 111))) I split the pads DAK.

P.S.

The repair result corresponds to knife version №11:  " DAK 93 without DE-GM 9305297 Stamp: Victorinox/SWISS MADE/STAINLESS. Liners marked “Liner lock”."

forum post number  #460 on: December 09, 2019, 08:26:37 PM

[EMZ]

Aleks, that's an amazing story you told us! Funny to notice how models can be fixed and mixed to create new variations.

[EMZ]

One of the least attractive 'Dutch military multi-tools' in my collection: A wine knife of probably Chinese origin.

IKS Defensie = Instituut Keuring en Selectie Defensie. Which translates to 'Defence Institute of Assesment and Selection'.
This institute was established after a reorganisation in 2002.

[EMZ]

And now a real DAK from Victorinox:  A Recruit 2.2500 with Eco handles, key ring, no T&T, and reverse handles (Swiss cross at the back side).

Personeelsvoorziening Koninklijke Landmacht translates to 'Human Recources Services Royal Army'.

Thanks Agamemnon!!

[Osos]

And now a real DAK from Victorinox:  A Recruit 2.2500 with Eco handles, key ring, no T&T, and reverse handles (Swiss cross at the back side).

Personeelsvoorziening Koninklijke Landmacht translates to 'Human Recources Services Royal Army'.

Thanks Agamemnon!!

Normally @EMZ I would be very jealous, but seller had one more knife, used, but in very good condition, and it is mine :-)
Anyway congratulations!

Also some small update of mine collection. Most of them was described in this topic.

1. Finally I got all set of KLU knives
2. Both Zwanenburg models, 1st and 2nd generation
3. MC1 got also rope cutter to complete set
4. Lineman knives (mainly TL29 and Klein hawkbill blade knife). Also in free time I will make photo of electric knives
5. 93 models, all different

Also a lot's of thx to Agamemnon for support

[Farmer X]

MC1 got also rope cutter to complete set

I have one of those Schrade automatics (though one issued to U.S. troops). Yours looks pretty good. Hope it held up okay over the years.

[EMZ]

Normally @EMZ I would be very jealous, but seller had one more knife, used, but in very good condition, and it is mine :-)
Anyway congratulations!

Also some small update of mine collection. Most of them was described in this topic.

1. Finally I got all set of KLU knives
2. Both Zwanenburg models, 1st and 2nd generation
3. MC1 got also rope cutter to complete set
4. Lineman knives (mainly TL29 and Klein hawkbill blade knife). Also in free time I will make photo of electric knives
5. 93 models, all different

Also a lot's of thx to Agamemnon for support

Dear Osos, I am totally jealous about your DAK's!!! 
Congratulations on your Klu 74 find!  It's the one knife I've still been missing. 

The orange MC1 is beautiful. Once, a long time ago, I had 2 of them, but I had to part hem, because these type of knives are forbidden by the law here in Holland.

Could you please take identifying pictures of the 6 different tang stamps of the 1993 models you have? I have only 5 different tang stamps in my collection, and didn't know a sixt excists.
Also looking forward on the tang stamps of the line man's knives.

[kamakiri]

And now, ladies and gentleman, this is the news you've all been waiting for!   
DAK afficionado's and all others, fasten your seatbelts!
Here are the first detailed pictures of a genuine, beautiful, Holy Grail Victorinox: The latest version of the blue alox RNLAF Survival Kit Knife !! 

This particular knife is a little bit of an enigma...
In order to shed some light: Look at the tweezers.
Tomorrow I show you more detailed pics.

Incredible and beautiful example EMZ!  Thanks for sharing and especially the nice, detailed photos! 

My date estimate for this knife is late-‘75 to early-‘76 based on all the construction details I can see. Specific tool and part machining are pretty clear. Also good hints in the tang stamps. Even the tweezer helps confirm the range. I’m happy to see such an excellent survivor. 

[Osos]

Dear Osos, I am totally jealous about your DAK's!!! 
Congratulations on your Klu 74 find!  It's the one knife I've still been missing. 

The orange MC1 is beautiful. Once, a long time ago, I had 2 of them, but I had to part hem, because these type of knives are forbidden by the law here in Holland.

Could you please take identifying pictures of the 6 different tang stamps of the 1993 models you have? I have only 5 different tang stamps in my collection, and didn't know a sixt excists.
Also looking forward on the tang stamps of the line man's knives.

Hi @EMZ
You shouldn't be jealous, because you have some pretty awesome knives that miss in my collection, that I'm jealous for ;-)

Regarding your question, check table below.
Plus for 93 additional models:
1. with gold army logo (black and green scales)
2. Civilian version, centurion from military academy and military school (black and green scales)
3. First version, 92' with slide lock, model picknicker
4. Forester DAK, let say it is also from one "bag" with 93 models
5. Trailmaster DAK
6. English version with broken liner lock

And some others that I have no idea of their existence hehe

Photos of most of them, was shown by Ton.

So much more knives to find... :-)