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Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?

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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #180 on: June 30, 2021, 01:03:36 AM
Jud65 and NutSAK, thanks to your posts, this thread popped up on my unread list.

For me, a Champion was my first SAK back in 1983. And I still have it, sitting on my desk now. It doesn't get a lot of use these days, but I'll never part with it.

Though I've been thinking that once the Pocket Rocket Challenge ends, I might carry it, along with my Mini Champ with M2 Seber Tool pliers attached. I do like having pliers and part of me thinks pliers separate from the SAK are more useful.

I too insist on having a SAK with a mag glass/inline Phillips layer. I guess it will depend on how my custom build (sort of a Detective) will compare with my Champion, then I'll see which I carry more.
SAKs:
58mm: Bijou (3), Classic SD (7), Mini Champ Plus (mod), Alox Classic SD, Rambler (3), Companion
65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive
85mm: Evolution S557, Traveler,
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
93mm: Pioneer Alox


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #181 on: June 30, 2021, 06:44:29 PM

Though I've been thinking that once the Pocket Rocket Challenge ends, I might carry it, along with my Mini Champ with M2 Seber Tool pliers attached. I do like having pliers and part of me thinks pliers separate from the SAK are more useful.

 :iagree:  I think the Champion with a "minimalist" plier tool like the Mini is a very handy toolset, and actually quite easy to carry for the tool density.
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #182 on: June 30, 2021, 06:53:19 PM
Here are my circa 1980 Hoffritz Champions.  One is a user, the other an unused back-up.  They are identical with the exception of the grind on the tip of the awl and the Hoffritz scale logo. The back-up has the inlay logo and on the user it is hot-stamped.










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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #183 on: June 30, 2021, 10:34:52 PM
I still use my Champion much more than my SwissChamp.  I just tend to use my users more than my new ones... and it just stays that way.  Besides that, it's almost always more handy when I need it (it sits at my computer desk, whereas the SwissChamp sits in a drawer in the bedroom)... which admittedly makes about as much sense as saying I prefer to eat the cookie at the top of the packet instead of the one beneath it. 


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #184 on: June 30, 2021, 10:41:36 PM
I have a "user" Swiss Champ that sits at my desk, and is always there for whatever task is at hand.  Honestly, I probably use that SAK more than most of my other SAKs just because it's in convenient spot, though I never carry it.  I do carry the Champion on occasion, mainly because I still consider it pocket-able and the Swiss Champ is not comfortably pocket-able for me.

So, I certainly understand using what is handy...
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #185 on: July 03, 2021, 06:55:51 PM
my first "big" SAK was a Champion i traded a classmate a headphone radio for in 87.
i re-scaled it [either African Blackwood or Buffalo horn] in 96/97,then lost it after.
it was my edc,along with a Ranger i got in 88 [i re-scaled that as well,and i can't remember which i used for which knife].
i lost the Ranger too.
i'm still looking for another Champion


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #186 on: July 04, 2021, 06:36:05 AM
i'm still looking for another Champion
They pop up on eBay pretty regularly.
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58mm: Bijou (3), Classic SD (7), Mini Champ Plus (mod), Alox Classic SD, Rambler (3), Companion
65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive
85mm: Evolution S557, Traveler,
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
93mm: Pioneer Alox


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #187 on: July 04, 2021, 09:23:02 AM
They pop up on eBay pretty regularly.

Thanks, Steve,I'll go look


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #188 on: July 04, 2021, 11:35:40 PM
I've been following this thread for a long time.  What do you all think you prefer, the Champion or the Ranger?  I've had a couple of Rangers but never had a Champion.
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #189 on: July 05, 2021, 12:11:18 AM
Museum of Modern Art likes it...  :tu:
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/4332
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #190 on: July 05, 2021, 04:18:39 AM
I see that Max.  They've hit upon some neat things over the years. 
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #191 on: July 05, 2021, 06:44:42 AM
I've been following this thread for a long time.  What do you all think you prefer, the Champion or the Ranger?  I've had a couple of Rangers but never had a Champion.
I'm the opposite - have a Champion, but have never had a Ranger.

The mag glass and inline Phillips of the Champion are enough for it to beat the Ranger, at least for me.

The ruler on the fish scaler has been handy at times also, but it's not a make or break tool, like the mag glass and Phillips.
SAKs:
58mm: Bijou (3), Classic SD (7), Mini Champ Plus (mod), Alox Classic SD, Rambler (3), Companion
65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive
85mm: Evolution S557, Traveler,
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
93mm: Pioneer Alox


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #192 on: July 05, 2021, 06:47:04 AM
Museum of Modern Art likes it...  :tu:
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/4332
Very cool that it's in MoMA!

Too bad that it's not on display.
SAKs:
58mm: Bijou (3), Classic SD (7), Mini Champ Plus (mod), Alox Classic SD, Rambler (3), Companion
65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive
85mm: Evolution S557, Traveler,
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
93mm: Pioneer Alox


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #193 on: July 05, 2021, 06:38:19 PM
I've been following this thread for a long time.  What do you all think you prefer, the Champion or the Ranger?  I've had a couple of Rangers but never had a Champion.

I love them both, but like SteveP I  like to have the phillips/mag layer on the SAKs I carry, as I use them frequently.  The Ranger is notable for having a very dense tool set since it has a tool on all 5 backsprings.
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #194 on: July 05, 2021, 08:25:02 PM
I have an older Champion from the 80's. My first SAK I got for backpacking. Later got a new Champ, but really prefer the 80's Champion - not so many silly tools.
It was the first of a SAK addiction (60+). Can't be without my 30 year old Tinker in my pocket.

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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #195 on: July 06, 2021, 08:47:31 PM
I don't have one, but I've considered it.  It looks like a great tool selection without the pliers which I don't find all that useful for an EDC.  I think I'm going to try a Ranger as my first SAK over 4 layers, but the Champion would be cool to check out the inline phillips and mag glass. Paired with some dedicated pliers, you have everything you could possibly need.  I thought the Champion was still available on Amazon not that long ago, but it's not there anymore. Bummer.


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #196 on: July 07, 2021, 01:58:25 AM
I like having a Philips layer, as it seems that most screws nowadays are Philips anyway.  The Mag Glass is fun!  Thanks for the feedback everyone!  :cheers:
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #197 on: July 07, 2021, 03:13:01 AM
I like having a Philips layer, as it seems that most screws nowadays are Philips anyway.  The Mag Glass is fun!  Thanks for the feedback everyone!  :cheers:
Barry, if that means you're now planning to get a Champion, I think we'll all be expecting to see pictures!   :pok:
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65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive
85mm: Evolution S557, Traveler,
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
93mm: Pioneer Alox


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #198 on: July 07, 2021, 04:32:53 AM
 :hatsoff: I need to take a dive into the Bay and see what I can find :D
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #199 on: July 09, 2021, 11:27:50 AM
:hatsoff: I need to take a dive into the Bay and see what I can find :D

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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #200 on: July 09, 2021, 06:56:41 PM
 :rofl:
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #201 on: July 09, 2021, 07:27:08 PM
:hatsoff: I need to take a dive into the Bay and see what I can find :D
Has Barry surfaced yet? It's been 3 days.
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SAKs:
58mm: Bijou (3), Classic SD (7), Mini Champ Plus (mod), Alox Classic SD, Rambler (3), Companion
65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive
85mm: Evolution S557, Traveler,
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
93mm: Pioneer Alox


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #202 on: August 19, 2021, 06:22:40 AM
For you Champion lovers out there, I'm putting together a Champion Challenge for early next year. Details on this thread:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,87888.0.html

Be great to have you join!
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SAKs:
58mm: Bijou (3), Classic SD (7), Mini Champ Plus (mod), Alox Classic SD, Rambler (3), Companion
65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive
85mm: Evolution S557, Traveler,
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
93mm: Pioneer Alox


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #203 on: August 19, 2021, 07:00:52 AM
If I owned one, I would love it...

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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #204 on: August 19, 2021, 09:32:23 AM
At the beginning...


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #205 on: August 19, 2021, 06:22:01 PM
Both my first and second SAKs were Champions.
I don´t remember exactly; the first may have been a Chinese clone.
I lost it in a knife throwing contest with my friends.
I was a kid and didn´t think I would miss the target.  :facepalm:

Over a decade later, about 1985, I bought my second Champion and I still have it on my desk.
It has scratches and burns but otherwise ok. The tool I use most (at my desk): scissors.

I like the Champion but I think it´s too large for pocket carry.
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #206 on: August 20, 2021, 12:12:56 AM
I like the Champion but I think it´s too large for pocket carry.
The Challenge of Champions would be a good test to find out.
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SAKs:
58mm: Bijou (3), Classic SD (7), Mini Champ Plus (mod), Alox Classic SD, Rambler (3), Companion
65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive
85mm: Evolution S557, Traveler,
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
93mm: Pioneer Alox


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #207 on: June 09, 2022, 11:26:01 PM
Got this early 80’s Champion for $30 yesterday that is almost unused. I may get some black plus scales for it.      :like:


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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #208 on: June 10, 2022, 02:30:07 AM
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Very nice! What a bargain!
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Re: Any love left for the Victorinox Champion?
Reply #209 on: June 10, 2022, 04:33:11 AM
 :iagree: :like:
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